Sage Naruto VS Konoha 11
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when he fought Pain, Naruto's clones were gathering sage chakra, why they didnt enter sage mode i dont know but what I know is that until they dispel, it wont transfer to Naruto and when Naruto makes a clone before he gathers sage chakra it doesnt go into his clone automatically because there was a real Naruto in the mind fight who also automatically went into sage mode, It was when the actual body of Naruto entered sage mode(as shown in the manga) that all the real body(in his mind) and his clones entered sage mode, why? Because they are inside him not outside him so as he gathered it, the sage chakra went into them...if he could automatically force his clones into sage mode by gathering the chakra, then that clone of Naruto who fought the third Raikage should have been forced to remain in Kyubi Chakra Mode because the real Naruto was in Kyubi Chakra Mode and the clone should have not being able to exit and enter sage mode since he must be as the real Naruto is(according to your logic) shadow clones have an independent existence. the only control the real one has is to dispel them.
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Uzumaki Hyuga
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Konoha 11 win definately win, note Shikamaru:shadow thingy
since they r figthing as one, they should b ready to signal each other stuffs. Invinsible punch can b seen by Hinata and Neji: Byakugan, Choji in Butterfly mode, Rock Lee in Drunken or gate mode, sage has to do with Harmonizing natuers chakra, i think Byakugan will have a upper hand in this or from Neji. Shino, Sakura insane punch? Sage Naruto is super strong but not against Konaha 11, its too much
since they r figthing as one, they should b ready to signal each other stuffs. Invinsible punch can b seen by Hinata and Neji: Byakugan, Choji in Butterfly mode, Rock Lee in Drunken or gate mode, sage has to do with Harmonizing natuers chakra, i think Byakugan will have a upper hand in this or from Neji. Shino, Sakura insane punch? Sage Naruto is super strong but not against Konaha 11, its too much
Uzumaki Hyuga
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Sage Naruto esp without summon can not beat konoha 11, Konoha 11 esp. tem work is underesteemated, naruto will hardly hit drunk rocklee, shikamaru is far smarter than Naruto, Neji's jyuuken will prove sth, shino's bugs, Choji's butterfly mode, sai, beside improvement in abilities in konoha 11, has yet been divulged. Sage naruto cannot win this battle, he'll run down
lanakau888
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Sage naruto can beat the 11 with ease, i've already explained why but i will again.
Sage naruto taijutsu > lee's
Sage naruto's ninjutsu > neji's defense
Sage naruto's strength > shikamaru's shadow possession
Chouji in butterfly mode is just a huge target asking to be rasenshurikened, and sage naruto possibly has strength on par with him.
Sage naruto's speed > any of the konoha 11, save rock lee with many gates open
And we've seen from the kyuubi fight that naruto can have 50 clones all able to use giant rasengans going at once, each with taijutsu, ninjutsu, and strength greater than any of the konoha 11.
Even base naruto could take out more than half of them by himself.
Uzumaki Hyuga
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Sage mode increases tailjutsu but can naruto hit drunken Rock Lee, its not like he has a touch repellant like kimimaro
Rasenshuriken is chakra based so i dont see any reason y Neji's kaiten wont deflect it, it does just blocks attack, it deflects it, advantage= it is thrown
Shadow possesion< sage mode, true but somehow Shikamaru will devise a plan
Naruto made so many clone in sage mode in his mind, it was a battle for possesion of spirit or charkra
Sage mode utilizes nature's chakra around, some how it enters his body from somewhere, Neji with Byakugan can see, or even 8 trigram 128 palms on him=End of Naruto provided Fox doesn't show up
Base Naruto doesn't stand a chance against Lee, Shikamaru, Neji, Shino working as a team or not
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Not really. Doujutsus are able to see chakra, not natural energy. Frog Katas would be completely invisible for Byakugan, like it was invisible for Pain, even though Rinnegan can also see chakra.
Yes, by using Frog Katas Naruto can hit Lee easily.
lanakau888
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rocke lee will not be able to dodge an invisible punch, and considering how fast and powerful naruto is in sage mode, he might not even be able to dodge the actual punch. And lets not forget that sage mode punches can kill.
Neji's rotation only deflects attacks up to a certain degree, whatever power it can't deflect, the user gets hit with. This is why neji was hurt by naruto powered by the fox in the chuunin exams. Neji will deflect part of the rasenshuriken, but he will not deflect nearly all of it. If he tries to deflect the rasenshuriken, he will be obliterrated.
Oh the old "character A is smarter than character B, so no matter what character B possesses, character A will win because he will outsmart him"
The only thing he can't do in real life that he could do in his mind was enter sage mode while moving. Do you actually believe that kishi would make probably the most important and hyped battle in the entire manga a fake one?
Sure, neji has a way of defeating naruto if naruto just stands there and lets neji go to town on him. But the problem is, he won't.
Base naruto was stronger than kakashi when his rasenshuriken was only 50% complete. Base naruto is way stronger than he was when he fought kakuzu.
Speed-wise, he is as fast as sasuke is, better than kakashi in taijutsu, and has way more chakra than both.
Speed:
saved sakura from sasuke while sasuke was in the motion of stabbing her
matched sasuke's speed in their chidori rasengan clash
Tai:
Able to restrain kakashi in chidori rasengan clash
Able to fight deva on par, while kakashi gets stabbed in their taijutsu fight.
Stamina:
Kakashi states naruto has at least double what he has.
If Base naruto could summon, he could beat the konoha 11 plus sai. But since he can't in this battle, that is why I am saying he can only beat a little more than half of them with base.
Naruto punched Neji's kaiten will so little of kyuubi chakra and they both blasted back meaning they are equal even if his kaiten has improved I dont see it tanking a rasenshuriken or a rasengan for that matter and if he dodges the shuriken because it is thrown, it will expand and shred him
Uzumaki Hyuga
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Rotation deflects charkra based attacks, earth, wind, water, fire, charkra, kunai..., Ten ten said kaiten is more absolute than gaara's esp bcos it deflects attacks
thats one prove that it is impossible, in actual state he was stagnant to go in sage mode, but he was moving while he went sage, so then 50 sage moded clone is just possible in his mind
the speed u refering to,
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Hammy120290
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I love solving Versus threads.
Naruto SM - Beat 5 paths of pain and the whole village of Konoha couldn't do that...
So would you agree 5 paths = Team 11 or 5 paths > Team 11 or 5 paths < team 11(idiots choice but I put it up anyway)
Naruto SM
takes out....oooohhh I dunno 8 outta 11 at least by throwing a Rasenshuriken and having it expand.
Lets say Lee, Chouji and Neji are left for things to get interesting.
Lee goes to 7th Gate
Chouji goes butterfly and Neji...well he just stands there with his ****ing dumb gentle fist stance and Naruto moves so fast that he can't spin or react in time....Neji down.
Naruto makes 1 Clone
Chouji - Naruto they fight 1 - 1 Shikamaru ead Chouji is full on. Naruto is just too fast and strong tho. Chouji down.
Lee(hardest opponent) - Naruto can sense danger but I don't know if he can react in time. If not Naruto still has 2 Clones he can use to replenish SM until Lee...runs out and Naruto auto wins.
Naruto SM - Beat 5 paths of pain and the whole village of Konoha couldn't do that...
So would you agree 5 paths = Team 11 or 5 paths > Team 11 or 5 paths < team 11(idiots choice but I put it up anyway)
Naruto SM
takes out....oooohhh I dunno 8 outta 11 at least by throwing a Rasenshuriken and having it expand.
Lets say Lee, Chouji and Neji are left for things to get interesting.
Lee goes to 7th Gate
Chouji goes butterfly and Neji...well he just stands there with his ****ing dumb gentle fist stance and Naruto moves so fast that he can't spin or react in time....Neji down.
Naruto makes 1 Clone
Chouji - Naruto they fight 1 - 1 Shikamaru ead Chouji is full on. Naruto is just too fast and strong tho. Chouji down.
Lee(hardest opponent) - Naruto can sense danger but I don't know if he can react in time. If not Naruto still has 2 Clones he can use to replenish SM until Lee...runs out and Naruto auto wins.
Uzumaki Hyuga
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first off, i dot see how ure solving this
It wasn't just naruto who killed pain, konoha helped by giving him information, e.g if he neva knew the intervals for deva paths ability. He'll end up wasting sage mode just to learn their ability why do u think pain was nervous about learning his secret and prehaps understanding their utsu
Konohamaru killed one pain: the one that deal with his sensei, does it mean konohamaru is stronger, his sensei acted like that to protect Naruto and konhamaru, beside all the pain were after naruto and were spread abroad the village,
i belive pain would have completely dogded the RS, but u how high level shinobi does: close dodge to make it look cool, well in the case of Konaha 11, since they r working as a team, Neji migth kaiten it like Lord Hiashi did whey Hinata was kid napped, Neji might have developed to that state
what speed level is sage naruto? smbody compared it to sasuke's note neji is 9/10 speed, Neji is Jonin, but he is barely ever shown again, but that does give any credit as fist to die,
I'll pick up from the point where Lee, choji and Neji remains = Konoha 3, not Konaha 11 = assuming they got hit by it but remember that hinata can do the 64 palm defence.
Having used one rasenshuriken, he has 5 more to go, lee goes to 7th gate = super speed, what happens if he hits naruto with morning peacock, or hidden lotus, Rock lee will dogde any RS in that mode
Neji's gentle fist is not "****ing dumb" its is do not near me, when he was a genin, he defeated almost all that he fought in close combat e.g Kidomaru even said it, the the arc where hinata was kidnapped, when one of the ninjas i guess blited to his back to attack, as a genin he caugth his fist and then initiated 8 trigram now that he is a jonin..., the same might end up happening to Naruto = show's over
Well i dont really know what Chouji can fully do in Butterfly mode, so i can't defend him, anybody wh is on my side should brief me if anybody knows
Rock lee in 7th gate (DIGRESSION:mind me but if it is possible to mixDrunken and 7th gate it will b awesome but it is not),
if Neji manages to Kaiten the first RS shikamaru is still there with his brains
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