Sage Mode Naruto vs Itachi Uchiha

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Current Sage Mode Naruto is superior to Alive MS Itachi. Tsukuyomi is useless due to partner method, Amaterasu gets sensed and countered by a KB and Susanoo is outlasted or busted by a Oodama FRS.

@Bold; What partner? are you another one suggesting the toads are doing all the fighting for naruto again? LOL you sound a lot like KidGamer;Naruto X Man. Every sage mode naruto vs threads turns into "The toads will win this, the toads have this, the toads will break naruto out of genjutsu, the toads protect naruto" Stop it, this is itachi we are talking about, one of the most genius fighters when it comes to battling in the series vs one of the less intelligent. Naruto is not, and I repeat, not all that battle smart, he is not, and never has been a good fighter. If anything he is an "Okay" fighter. If you are suggesting itachi putting naruto under Tsukuyomi and the toads breaking him out of it with ease your smoking something. We are talking about a master genjutsu user who can put you under in multiple ways, multiple times. Crows, left and right, go re-watch the Sasuke vs Itachi fight, Itachi has multiple ways of placing a genjutsu under naruto.

Should we revert back to the fight with a fake Itachi at %30 power vs Kakashi, Naruto, Sakura and Granny Chiyo? a whole battle proceeded in naruto mind before it was obvious minutes later he was under an genjutsu when eyes starting popping out of his body. If all else fails, once again, itachi is a battle genius he simply puts ma and pa under the smallest genjutsu and takes out naruto via Amaterasu, period. I'm not even going to reiterate on itachi even having to use his OP susanoo with a Yata shield and Totsuka blade is not needed for the likes of a SM naruto, it would be over kill.

@Bold; Amaterasu gets sensed and countered by naruto!?!? LOL fan fiction, when kabuto couldn't even sense it? Kabuto dragon sage sensing + the sensing from his snakes >>> Naruto's own by far. Sasuke aimed amaterasu on the ground in front of him and kabuto barely managed to stop once seing it on the ground, tbh he almost slid right into it. He couldn't sense it for shit, if sasuke would of aimed it at his body that would of been it, but you actually believe naruto is sensing and is capable of dodging an Amaterasu lmao knock it off. Naruto is not Juubi Jin Obito with Rinnegan/Sharingan and on top of that, knows the secrets behind the technique amaterasu as he countered it once before and stated "If he didn't know everything about itachi he would be dead by now" Don't give naruto others feats, yes sage mode has sensing capabilities but he is not sensing chakra build up in itachi eye's and he is definitely not dodging an amaterasu.
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Itachi clearly takes this.

While SM Naruto can close his eyes to avoid Tsuyuomi.

Amaterasu 1 shots him.

Sharingan Genjutsu 1 shots him.

^This, and it is as simple as that, don't understand people overly overrating the hell out of SM Naruto and the only thing they have to back their claims is "His summons, his summons"

Naruto was barely damaged by a Yoton Fist and V1 cloaks tanked Juubi sized Katons, Yasaka Magatama and giant shurikens. A measly Gokakyuu isn't doing shit to KCM Naruto.


Yeah, Edo Itachi in autopilot kept up with a KCM Naruto who wasn't even serious, cut the bullshit. Ama isn't doing jackshit to a FRS, not when Sasuke's biggest Kagutsuchi was needed for a smaller OFRS. The moment FRS gets lit on fire, Itachi needs to counter a Ama FRS. He isn't that masochistic, dude. Tsukuyomi won't catch Naruto since he can fight with his eyes closed and plus it doesn't work on perfect Jins. Using outdated statements won't help.

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Irrelevant.

Sage Mode Naruto beats MS Sasuke and MS Itachi, it was already established by other users (Kidgamer if i recall correctly). Could you please bring arguments to the table and quit fanboying?


@Bold; ^Barely damage? his slow ass in KCM couldn't even dodge such a slow, straight forward, jab, such as Yoton fist and he got hit. You remember what happened next? killer bee had to grab his ass and carry him off to safety because he was falling from a tree after that one, measly punch LOL! I'm not going to even get into how overrated a KCM Naruto is, when quite frankly, he's not all that hyped up to be. I'd say he beats an MS itachi or Sasuke High to Extreme high Diff.
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@Bold; Exactly, a weaker, auto-piloted, itachi kept up with KCM naruto and you think itachi in control of his own movements could not? are you seriously saying itachi being controlled has superior combat abilities then him in control of his own uchiha body? LOL and since when did FRS>Ama? are you trolling? Ama isn't doing shit to FRS? come on bro, now who is fan boying you have to be shitting me. And please provide manga proof that Sasuke needed his biggest Kagutsuchi for a smaller FRS? Sasuke simply coated a susanoo arrow with enton and naruto threw an FRS into it which made it stronger and faster? And what are you suggesting? Naruto shot off a FRS the same direction sasuke arrow was heading lol? For you to assume if both itachi shot of AMA and Naruto shot of FRS it would back fire and continue in itachi direction? yeah, no. Ama> any FRS period.

Even so, if naruto is dumb enough to shoot off his most powerful attack to try to hit itachi and go out of sage mode then he is a fool. Yata Mirror tanks any FRS neg dif, Cho FRS is questionable, even so, itachi doesn't have to stand in tank it he can simply 1. Dodge it fairly easily its a "SLOW ASS ATTACK" 2. Place a small genjutsu allowing naruto to think he was hit by it then proceed to counter via Susanoo Totsuka blade/ Magmata projectiles or Ama.

@Bold; Please, tired of hearing kid gamer already established not a damn thing but fan fiction. Again, why is this even being debated when there is manga scans proving naruto admitting 1. He is inferior to MS sasuke. 2. Zetsu comparing an SM naruto to Hebi sasuke stating; "He thinks he might be stronger" and 3. Naruto admitting he needed the nine tails to defeat a sasuke that he witnessed blind, and beat down. People can try to make all the SM Nardo> Sauce threads as they want, doesn't change anything.



Naruto wins this high/extreme diff

-With his toads such as Ma&Pa by his side along with other summons and KB,,, Naruto wont be falling under a genjutsu,,,furthermore he has been fighting 2 of the strongest uchiha throughout this war and hasnt fallen even once in a genjutsu,,, therefore GENJUTSU GG is not happening,,,he also has intel on Itachis genjutsu prowess as well as finger genjutsu,,,

-His SM mastery and usage as of now has improved quite a bit compared to when he fought Pein,,, as his SM perception would enable him to react on time in-order to either evade amaterasu or block its LOS to counter it,,,,through KB perhaps

-Creating KB,, Naruto can fire FRS which has more than enough firepower to bust any susanoo till V3,, as COFRS can possibly destroy V3/V4 as well,,,,,

-CQC is more suitable for Naruto as well due to FK,,, and his SM durability would easily tank all of Itachis taijutsu attacks,,,,,

-Despite hhaving no knowledge on itachis susanoo,, Naruto is still not stupid to fall for Totsuka and would definitely evade it rather than be stupid and try to tank the blade,,,,not only that but Itachi having no knowledge on Narutos SM abilities such as FK and FS is also hurting him,,,

-Regardless of itachis health,, he is still alive meaning that the setbacks from using MS wont allow him to use his techniques to the full potential,,, furthermore naruto attacking itachi from various directions through KB,, Rasengans and FRS,,, will constantly put Itachi on the defensive,,, as Itachi cant maintain his susanoo for long periods of time,, not only that but his susanoo will be destroyed through COFRS/FRS,,,, thus allowing Naruto to win the battle

-Through Diverrsions,,, Naruto can also prep FS,,, which will force Itachi to lose his susanoo thus allowing naruto a way to finish Itachi off,,,,,

Yeah, no. Tired of repeating the same thing, Legitimate debate though keep fighting bro.
 
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If it's current Naruto, he wins low difficulty. With his sage sensing, he is dodging everything in Itachi's arsenal. With CORS he shits on everything in his arsenal. Now add clone spams and he takes it without problems especially considering Itachi's shitty stamina
 

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Naruto mid diffs at best, He's got speed advantage and more fire power to bust susanoo and obliterate itachi
 

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@Bold; What partner? are you another one suggesting the toads are doing all the fighting for naruto again?

You know, there's a big ass fox in Naruto's mind. It's called Kurama. In case you haven't realized, we are talking about War Arc Naruto, not Pein arc.


@Bold; Amaterasu gets sensed and countered by naruto!?!? LOL fan fiction, when kabuto couldn't even sense it? Kabuto dragon sage sensing + the sensing from his snakes >>> Naruto's own by far. Sasuke aimed amaterasu on the ground in front of him and kabuto barely managed to stop once seing it on the ground, tbh he almost slid right into it. He couldn't sense it for shit, if sasuke would of aimed it at his body that would of been it, but you actually believe naruto is sensing and is capable of dodging an Amaterasu lmao knock it off.

Stop proving my points lol, that scan clearly shows that Kabuto sensed it and stopped in time. Naruto isn't capable of dodging Ama, he can only sense it and block it or prevent its use blocking Itachi's LoS.
Don't give naruto others feats, yes sage mode has sensing capabilities but he is not sensing chakra build up in itachi eye's and he is definitely not dodging an amaterasu.
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Nagato, an inferior sensor, was able to sense the chakra build up in Itachi's eye. Naruto is indeed able to sense chakra and thus chakra buildup.


@Bold; ^Barely damage? his slow ass in KCM couldn't even dodge such a slow, straight forward, jab, such as Yoton fist and he got hit. You remember what happened next? killer bee had to grab his ass and carry him off to safety because he was falling from a tree after that one, measly punch LOL!

Lava barely burnt Naruto's cloak, are you blind or something? Seemingly you ignored my argument about the cloak's durability: an ignored argument is a conceded one.

since when did FRS>Ama? are you trolling? Ama isn't doing shit to FRS? come on bro, now who is fan boying you have to be shitting me. And please provide manga proof that Sasuke needed his biggest Kagutsuchi for a smaller FRS? Sasuke simply coated a susanoo arrow with enton and naruto threw an FRS into it which made it stronger and faster? And what are you suggesting? Naruto shot off a FRS the same direction sasuke arrow was heading lol? For you to assume if both itachi shot of AMA and Naruto shot of FRS it would back fire and continue in itachi direction? yeah, no. Ama> any FRS period.
Sasuke used his biggest Enton to consume a OFRS. That's a fact, he hasn't shown an enton bigger than that. Yeah, yes. Simply launching a measly Amaterasu againts FRS won't do shit, because it will continue in a straight line. Using Enton: Kagutsuchi to control the flames that will consume the FRS would redirect it. Do you comprehend? Using Amaterasu againts FRS will be Itachi's suicide, he would rather try to block it with Susanoo instead of roasting his ass in a dome of wind and fire.

Even so, if naruto is dumb enough to shoot off his most powerful attack to try to hit itachi and go out of sage mode then he is a fool. Yata Mirror tanks any FRS neg dif, Cho FRS is questionable, even so, itachi doesn't have to stand in tank it he can simply 1. Dodge it fairly easily its a "SLOW ASS ATTACK" 2. Place a small genjutsu allowing naruto to think he was hit by it then proceed to counter via Susanoo Totsuka blade/ Magmata projectiles or Ama

Lol, slow ass attack? FRS is around at the same speed of a Susanoo Arrow. It crossed a multi mountain range in a second. Don't come with such bullshit again.

Genjutsu again won't work, Naruto can fight him with his eyes closed due to sensing or Kurama will simply snap him out of it.

Lol no. FRS will completely bust open a V3 since Sasuke's one was damaged by Danzo's fuutons and Madara's Senpou one was vaped by 9 tails hit. Kirin completely bust Itachi's V4 (unless you think that Kirin is < to some fuutons and tails slaps lmao): OFRS is undoubtly stronger than it. Yata is useless since it doesn't have any feats. You are merely asserting that it can block a FRS, back up your assertion.

@Bold; Please, tired of hearing kid gamer already established not a damn thing but fan fiction. Again, why is this even being debated when there is manga scans proving naruto admitting 1. He is inferior to MS sasuke. 2. Zetsu comparing an SM naruto to Hebi sasuke stating; "He thinks he might be stronger" and 3. Naruto admitting he needed the nine tails to defeat a sasuke that he witnessed blind, and beat down. People can try to make all the SM Nardo> Sauce threads as they want, doesn't change anything.

1-3. He never admitted that in the official translation, and it was referred to Indra's chakra. 2. Comparing an imperfect SM Naruto to early MS Sasuke, implying he was already capable of countering Ama by your logic.

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[You know, there's a big ass fox in Naruto's mind. It's called Kurama. In case you haven't realized, we are talking about War Arc Naruto, not Pein arc.

Okay then I misunderstood, if this is a War Arc SM Naruto who is friends with kurama and is able to break him out of genjutsu then that's a different story, my bad.


Stop proving my points lol, that scan clearly shows that Kabuto sensed it and stopped in time. Naruto isn't capable of dodging Ama, he can only sense it and block it or prevent its use blocking Itachi's LoS.

Nagato, an inferior sensor, was able to sense the chakra build up in Itachi's eye. Naruto is indeed able to sense chakra and thus chakra buildup.

Proving your point? kabuto sensed nothing, it's one thing if kabuto was aware of it before sasuke shot it off and then stopped, its another thing when kabuto visually saw the flames on the ground before he hit the emergency breaks, and that is what happened stop bullshitting. Look at the manga scan, and then if need be watch the anime so u can visually see it.

I wasn't comparing Nagato sensing capabilities to naruto's own? I stated just because a Juubi jin obito can sense chakra build up in sasuke eyes and having dealt with AMa once before, doesn't mean naruto can.

Lava barely burnt Naruto's cloak, are you blind or something? Seemingly you ignored my argument about the cloak's durability: an ignored argument is a conceded one.

It barely burnt naruto cloak, but yet it was enough to have him falling to the ground unable to move? it is obvious Ama>Lava what do you think is going to happen if naruto gets hit with it? exactly, hes done for. I did not ignore your argument about his cloaks durability, are you suggesting Ama would do nothing to naruto cloak when a lava punch did? LOL

Sasuke used his biggest Enton to consume a OFRS. That's a fact, he hasn't shown an enton bigger than that. Yeah, yes. Simply launching a measly Amaterasu againts FRS won't do shit, because it will continue in a straight line. Using Enton: Kagutsuchi to control the flames that will consume the FRS would redirect it. Do you comprehend? Using Amaterasu againts FRS will be Itachi's suicide, he would rather try to block it with Susanoo instead of roasting his ass in a dome of wind and fire.

WTF? Sasuke used his biggest enton to consume a OFRS? scan please? and if you are referring to the below scan, sasuke simply used the flame from his susanoo orb, put it on his susanoo, fired it, and naruto chunked a OFRS at it to make it stronger? where the hell are you getting this "Sasuke used his biggest Enton to consume" please, one can say the Ama he used on Hachibi was his so called "Biggest One" as it was tailed beast size lol?
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And what are you talking about? Ama in any form being measly? your a troll. By your words an inexperienced sasuke who fired off what you call "A measly Amaterasu" was capable of completely ingulfing Hachibi and sending him in excruciating pain.... Amaterasu has no problem reverting a FRS back towards naruto ass, period.
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Lol, slow ass attack? FRS is around at the same speed of a Susanoo Arrow. It crossed a multi mountain range in a second. Don't come with such bullshit again.

Yes, do I have to put it in bold for you? SLOW ASS MOTHA LOVIN FRS !!! Understand now? Since when did FRS have speed? if I remember correctly he used it on pein, he saw it coming, 2 of them had time to dodge it when pein has absolutely 0 speed feats LOL! and the other 1 had time to throw the other out of the way. The only reason one got hit is because he expanded it haha. Do I even need to remind you how fast a susanoo arrow is? did you seriously compare a FRS speed to a susanoo arrow? bruh, knock that shit off.
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Genjutsu again won't work, Naruto can fight him with his eyes closed due to sensing or Kurama will simply snap him out of it.

Yeah, no. Once again, hes not Guy sensei LOL I would love to see naruto fight Itachi with his eyes closed you have a death wish for that man. Then what is he going to throw his jutsu at with his eyes closed? lmao, hes not at a blind madara's caliber with hashirama sage mode either, you giving naruto Madara feats now too? lol silly. But I do agree under the influence with kurama helping him, he could break him out.



Lol no. FRS will completely bust open a V3 since Sasuke's one was damaged by Danzo's fuutons and Madara's Senpou one was vaped by 9 tails hit. Kirin completely bust Itachi's V4 (unless you think that Kirin is < to some fuutons and tails slaps lmao): OFRS is undoubtly stronger than it. Yata is useless since it doesn't have any feats. You are merely asserting that it can block a FRS, back up your assertion.

1. Sasuke was weakened from previous attacks, exhausting himself with genjutsu, susanoo arrows, and amaterasu. Danzo hit sasuke susanoo at a weak spot in the back, while baku suction power was rendering him vulnerable and helpless. 2. I agree that OFRS is stronger then kirin. 3. Im asserting, and your assuming that FRS can break through susanoo which I feel is utterly bullshit when sasuke V1 rib cage susanoo tanked raikage liger bomb at full power when he was said to be at tailed beast level, yet it simply put a crack in it. Too assume naruto FRS or OFRS would completely destroy itachi V4 Susanoo with yata shield is once again, Ludacris.


1-3. He never admitted that in the official translation, and it was referred to Indra's chakra. 2. Comparing an imperfect SM Naruto to early MS Sasuke, implying he was already capable of countering Ama by your logic.

Official translation? you talking about Viz trans? when several other translations + anime say the exact same words? And now your saying naruto could sense Indra chakra in sasuke way back then? LOL dude why am I debating with you right now? Naruto knew damn well he wasn't able to compete with a MS sasuke, went to the toads, depressingly admitted he needed the nine tails chakra to fight sasuke, period.


-Giant yasaka Magmata projectiles destroy any clones
-Amaterasu one shots
- Totsuka blade one shots
-Crow genjutsu through out the battle keeps him alive
-Then he has susanoo to worry about
- And if all else fails and itachi decides to use an eye as the last resort you have Izanami to deal with. :yeah:

Stop basing your whole argument off of 1 move, Naruto FRS, OFRS.


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Itachi takes this mid diff he was already shown to keep up with SM Naruto, In addition SM Naruto doesn't have the speed to counter Amaterasu
 

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What the hell is this? Of COURSE Itachi wins. Any summons are negated by Sharingan Genjutsu. Itachi Amaterasu's Ma and Pa. Naruto closes his eyes to avoid Tsukuyomi and ends up faceplanting into Itachi's Sakegari or Amaterasu. Even in close quarters, Itachi still beats him in Taijutsu. He doesn't even need eye contact to cast Genjutsu. His crow bunshins in the air or surroundings + Sharingan precognition will inform him of incoming attacks. I could actually form a huge debate about this, but I don't see why I should. Itachi would win.
 

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Itachi was able to keep up with KCM Naruto. KCM Naruto >> SM Naruto.

Itachi take this.
 

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That's about it



Overall KCM is better


Nope. In strength, durability, sensing, reflexes, and taijutsu, SM is superior. SM>=KCM in ninjutsu power. Most likely greater.


KCM's only advantages are these. Speed, chakra arms for multiple attacks and ninjutsu, stamina, and mini TBBs.


People are forgetting KCM Naruto did not go all out against Itachi. He went strictly taijutsu and did not utilize chakra arms, which would have destroyed him quickly if he so choose.

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Naruto's fanboys are disgusting as hell. ''SM > KCM'' hahahahahahahahaha.

OT: Itachi Genjutsu ends it.


Oh look, Madara Rules! Trying to get out of your ban and being an annoying prick as usual by undermining Naruto at every turn are you?!

Naruto haters are disgusting. You're the idiot who said SM enhanced ninjutsu aren't stronger than base ninjutsu despite the manga clearly saying the opposite.
 
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