Sage Mode Naruto vs Hebi Sasuke (REALLY NEED HELP, Cant decide)

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Sage Mode Naruto takes this, for starters Hebi Sasuke doesn't have the MS and Kirin takes too much prep so I don't even need to counter those.

And the other issues have already been countered.
 
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1) Who is faster? At foot-speed level, Sasuke is faster. He was able to evade Ae in V1 and Bee in Cloaked form. Bee commented that he was the only individual other than his brother to have evaded the attack. In recation-rate, Sasuke is faster still, as he was able to Pin Kabuto's retreating tails with the throw of his sword. Considering how fast Kabuto is; that is one hell of a feat.

2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Sasuke is again Superior. Superior reaction rate as I explained in the previous point. 3 T per-cognition only adds to this.

3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? FRS is slow, as Pein on two occasions countered it. At one point he called in the bird summon to deflect his path, and on other, he stabbed two clones and counter Naruto. This isn't a fast technique at all and is easily evadable.

Third Raikage - who is considerably slower than fourth as he lacks V2 Raiton Armour - was not even trying, when Naruto, along with the rest could easily intercept his movements. One team formed a Doton wall and another individual formed Lava Balloon to save Base Naruto when he ran out of SM. This means the guy is no where near Ae in terms of speed.

4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin aside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? He can stop whilst it's forming. Otherwise, he's toast along with Gamabunta. He isn't doing anything to Lightening that is coming down at the rate of 1/1000 second.

5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife? I don't see why not, given their contentions.

6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Doubt it.
 

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For some reason, I have a very hard time deciding who is superior. If both of these guys fought to the bitter end with everything they had, who would come out on top?


IN order to decide who would be better, Ive established some reasonable points that need to be decided before choosing:

1) Who is faster? Both have immense speed. But who is truly faster.

Speed feats seem relatively equal. We've seen Sasuke move fast on multiple occasions. Similarly, Naruto went from on Gamakichi to slamming into Asura Path without difficulty.


2) In hand to hand combat, who wins? Can A transformed CM Sasuke keep up with Naruto? Is it even? Are they close enough for it not to make a drastic difference?

Without a doubt Naruto. He doesn't have to land a hit to kill you. And if he does hit, that impact is only greater. Hebi Sasuke has nothing that can march Frog Katamas in CQB Taijutsu.

3) What is Sasuke's answer for Rasenshuriken? Can he defend against such move? (Was thinking maybe he could use manda or even summon rashomon.

One technique: evasion. It works lol! Additionally, if he has S-Class Katon that would work; however, I.don't believe he's shown S-Rank fire. Manda could be used as a shield... But the result will be desth to Manda... Provided Manda is used to take the hit.

4) What is Naruto's Answer for Kirin asside from stopping Sasuke from forming it? Do you think hiding in Gamabunta would protect Naruto? Is there a way for Naruto to counter it?

Fuuton > Raiton. The Sage infused Rasenshuriken trumps Kirin. Other methods would probably be something like using Gammabunta or other frogs as a shield... Or keeping by Sasuke... Remember Sasuke only used it when he was away and safe from impact.

5) Would Manda and Aoba(Sasuke's new snake) help much against 3 giant toads and fukasaku and his wife?

They certainly can't hurt against them; however, overall, the frogs are probably stronger with numbers


6) Would Sasuke need to resort to using Oro's 8 branches? Can Naruto take that out?

8 Branches was Orochimaru's handiwork as opposed to Sasuke. It was a body possession. Anyhow, I'd say it's fairly plausible that Naruto could defeat such an opponent. Rasenshuriken is a cutting technique. And between the frog summons as well as Ma & Pa... I'd say its a good.shot.

Still, hardly anything is known of this move. So who knows. What I do know is at that point Sasuke is already out of the fight.

DISCUSS THIS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. PLease no flame wars. I want reasonable debating.
Left my replies in bold. Hopefully they actually worked.


Overall: SM Naruto.
 

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Depends on how the fight pans out. If Sasuke tries close combat, which he will if he's ill informed of Naruto's abilities in SM, he's going to lose badly.
Rasenshuriken might be slow, but if he doesnt know of it's expanding capabilities, he will be caught off guard.
As for Kirin I don't see it getting ready. The only time Sasuke has used kirin, he had Itachi's katons and amaterasu to help him heat up the atmosphere. Naruto has no katons or amaterasu. Sasuke is going to have to use his own chakra for heat up the atmosphere.
Sasuke's best chance of winning is gen jutsu.
 

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Sasuke without Susano'o vs SM naruto? OP, how are you not banned yet?

SM > MS sasuke.
SM > MS ??

Or do i have to show you the scan that said SM naruto is inferior to Ms Sasuke?

Sm naruto can't speedblitz through hokages and actually take down one in the process/injuried the second.


SM naruto > Hebi sasuke, not MS
 

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Sage Naruto is far superior.

He almost took down the Six Paths of Pain after all. A feat which surpassed everything we ever saw from Hebi Sasuke...

To the questions:

1. Sage Naruto is definitely faster. Hebi Sasuke is fast, but Sage Mode increases Naruto's speed to whole new levels!

2. Sage Naruto is once again far superior. In hand to hand combat, Sasuke honestly won't stand a chance. With the incredible Physical strength Naruto has he can deal fatal damage to Sasuke with a single hit!! On top of that he has Frog Kata.

3. I don't see him blocking the attack or defending against it any way. If anything he could possibly dodge it, but I don't really know...

4. Maybe he could hide in Gamabunta, but I don't really know... In any case Naruto would take him down before it got to that if he was fighting seriously.

5. Nahh, they'd get stomped by Ma and Pa.

6. Yea, as a last resort i'd guess he'd try using that... But Naruto can probably take it down with a Rasenshuriken or a Giant Rasengan or something like that, so it's not really a big deal here.
can you give feats to sage naruto being faster? because sasuke's speed has been praised over an over in the manga and naruto's wasn't

he almost took down the paths with plot hugely in his favor. he had intel from jiraiya, help from minato,kurama, and hinata, deva path was restricted while he killed the others, and he still lost

naruto's close combat is matched by the sharingan precognition and the length of his sword giving him distance from the katas

naruto can't possibly dodge lightning:| he dies
 

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As a Sasuke fan, whose favorite version of Sasuke is Hebi.

No, he's low kage level and Sm Naruto is mid Kage level.

Curse mark is a weaker version of Sm. Sasuke's best attack is stronger than Sm Naruto's arsenal, but it's impratical. Also, Naruto's rasenshuriken is probably hard enough for Sasuke to counter.

Manda and Gamabunta would be a good fight though.
 
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Sasuke could also use Chidori Current in CQC fight. If you look back at the chapter Sai / Yamato weren't hit by lightning (they were in the range of the justu)which immortalized them.

On top of that his sharingan.

Also I don't.see Naruto breaking out of genjustu

Sasuke would win in overall and CQC
 
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Sage Mode Naruto wins this battle.

Sasuke needed a lot of prep time for that version of Kirin he used on Itachi and only was able to do it because Itachi allowed and if anyone doesn't believe me just read chapter 401 . Hebi Sasuke barely survived Deidra's explosion despite finding the weakness of his bombs, which was lighting because the bombs were earth style. In response to snakes vs toads Gamabunta held his own against Shukaku. None of the snakes the Hebi Sasuke has summoned has been shown to do this once. The time limit doesn't because 5 minutes is all he needs and his battle against Pein was proof of this and he could slam them like he did with Peins summoning jutsus and back to the Kirin he needs to go high altitude and the flying won't help him much because of the Oodama Rasengan and Rasenshuriken, which he destroyed 1 of the flying Summoning Jutsus with. Genjutsu won't do anything because of these

1. Sasuke can't decipher between the real Naruto and the SC and couldn't do it in their final battle, so there'd be no point in using it at all.



2. Sage Mode Naruto could close his eyes and sense him wherever he goes

Before getting pinned he almost destroyed Tendo twice in chapter 433
 
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Sasuke could also use Chidori Current in CQC fight. If you look back at the chapter Sai / Yamato weren't hit by lightning (they were in the range of the justu)which immortalized them.

On top of that his sharingan.

Also I don't.see Naruto breaking out of genjustu

Sasuke would win in overall and CQC
That was in the beginning of the Shippuden not to mention that Sasuke can't decipher between Naruto and the SC. He couldn't even do it in chapter 697. Naruto can just close his eys, which also negates Sasuke's genjutsu as well and would sense him because of his senjutsu
 

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That was in the beginning of the Shippuden not to mention that Sasuke can't decipher between Naruto and the SC. He couldn't even do it in chapter 697. Naruto can just close his eys, which also negates Sasuke's genjutsu as well and would sense him because of his senjutsu
Does Naruto have feats of fighting with his eyes closed. Sasuke is still faster and chidori Nagashi doesn't care whether you're real or a clone?
 
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Does Naruto have feats of fighting with his eyes closed. Sasuke is still faster and chidori Nagashi doesn't care whether you're real or a clone?
Yes he does. Senjutsu allows to sense your opponent even if you're blind Hebi Sasuke isn't faster. He almost by Deidra explosion, which was shown in chapter 363, while Fukkasaku said at the end of chapter 430 that Sage Mode Naruto surpassed Jiraya.
 
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