Sage mode = borrowed power?

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all powers are borrowed powers as all chakra originated from the juubi, sennin mode is no exception it's power created by mixing chakra from the juubi with natural energy from the earth/universe.
 

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Its the same as any other summoning if you ignore prep.

I'm sorry but the prep argument is garbage. That's like saying Minato can't use FTG in battle because it takes hours to draw put and place sealing tags on all one thousand or whatever number of kunais he has. That's pure bogus. We have already seen in the manga that you only need to do the prep once, after that, you can summon and unsummon the edo as many times as you like. We saw Kabuto whoop out his edo's in an instant when he blackmailed Tobi to let him join Akatsuki, why, because he already made the edos. There's no prep time required for it in battle, coz that's something you do once.
 

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Kabutos yes.
Naruto no, he trained for it, needed a strong body, needed chakra too.
He is actively channeling the sage chakra , so it not borrowed, really
 

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Holy shit, that is the most retarded borrowed power argument to ever exist

Oh really, so they're not gathering, natural energy from nature.... which is given back, to nature, once they use a jutsu or exit SM? Sounds like the definition of borrowing to me. :vincent:

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Asking for power from a tailed beast is borrowing. Asking for help is external support. Gathering energy from nature is borrowing said energy.

Edo tensei doesn't count; You used the jutsu but it's not your abilities that are doing anything. I don't see DSM kabuto using PS or soloing gokages, etc nor do I see orochimaru using wood god. That ain't their abilities. The same way you gain support from tailed beasts is the same way you gain support from Edo's. You're calling in support, not fighting for yourself. It doesn't count. If I'm in a boxing match can I call in my 2 pitbulls to assist me? no. Can I call in zombie mahamed ali? no.

Get over yourself OP. You narutard fans need to read a dictionary.
>Inb4 the only responses to this post is about sasuke's eyes like Igaf about sasuke's stolen powers.

Surely all borrowed power arguments are equally stupid, because
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This is valid, but the arguments clearly assume any chakra, which you were born with, as 'yours'. It's still the juubi's, but it's your own abilities from birth
 

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absoltuly not, where do you think ninjas get chakra from? inside them? no its from nature... its called kneading chakra where they absorb it from their environment.....
 

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Oh really, so they're not gathering, natural energy from nature.... which is given back, to nature, once they use a jutsu or exit SM? Sounds like the definition of borrowing to me. :vincent:

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Asking for power from a tailed beast is borrowing. Asking for help is external support. Gathering energy from nature is borrowing said energy.

Edo tensei doesn't count; You used the jutsu but it's not your abilities that are doing anything. I don't see DSM kabuto using PS or soloing gokages, etc nor do I see orochimaru using wood god. That ain't their abilities. The same way you gain support from tailed beasts is the same way you gain support from Edo's. You're calling in support, not fighting for yourself. It doesn't count. If I'm in a boxing match can I call in my 2 pitbulls to assist me? no. Can I call in zombie mahamed ali? no.

Get over yourself OP. You narutard fans need to read a dictionary.
>Inb4 the only responses to this post is about sasuke's eyes like Igaf about sasuke's stolen powers.




This is valid, but the arguments clearly assume any chakra, which you were born with, as 'yours'. It's still the juubi's, but it's your own abilities from birth

Nature is not a sentient being
 

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All 4 Clans Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki and Hyuga borrowed something from Kaguya its call DNA that allowed each Clan to inhered powers fem Her and inheriting something is a form of borrowing which every Human being on the planet has done.
 

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*facepalm*

Then food is also a borrowed power
 

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Sage mode isn't barrowed. Although I do question how kabuto got sage mode so easily, but maybe he trained or something.
 

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Sage mode isn't barrowed. Although I do question how kabuto got sage mode so easily, but maybe he trained or something.

He trained, unlike uchihas who gain powers by crying

You cant gain sage mode by crying

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Get over yourself, End of Days. Another garbage thread, just so you can brew up self-serving and masturbatory posts to satisfy your nonsensical logic. Then you go around screaming wolf in threads, how well-deserved people got banned. This is the third alt you have made - others got nailed, and rightly so. It's about time refuse like you gets booted out.

Seriously, get over it.

Oh really, so they're not gathering, natural energy from nature.... which is given back, to nature, once they use a jutsu or exit SM? Sounds like the definition of borrowing to me. :vincent:

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Asking for power from a tailed beast is borrowing. Asking for help is external support. Gathering energy from nature is borrowing said energy.

Edo tensei doesn't count; You used the jutsu but it's not your abilities that are doing anything. I don't see DSM kabuto using PS or soloing gokages, etc nor do I see orochimaru using wood god. That ain't their abilities. The same way you gain support from tailed beasts is the same way you gain support from Edo's. You're calling in support, not fighting for yourself. It doesn't count. If I'm in a boxing match can I call in my 2 pitbulls to assist me? no. Can I call in zombie mahamed ali? no.

Get over yourself OP. You narutard fans need to read a dictionary.
>Inb4 the only responses to this post is about sasuke's eyes like Igaf about sasuke's stolen powers.


This is valid, but the arguments clearly assume any chakra, which you were born with, as 'yours'. It's still the juubi's, but it's your own abilities from birth

Why do I always end up agreeing with you?
 

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Oh really, so they're not gathering, natural energy from nature.... which is given back, to nature, once they use a jutsu or exit SM? Sounds like the definition of borrowing to me. :vincent:

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Asking for power from a tailed beast is borrowing. Asking for help is external support. Gathering energy from nature is borrowing said energy.

Edo tensei doesn't count; You used the jutsu but it's not your abilities that are doing anything. I don't see DSM kabuto using PS or soloing gokages, etc nor do I see orochimaru using wood god. That ain't their abilities. The same way you gain support from tailed beasts is the same way you gain support from Edo's. You're calling in support, not fighting for yourself. It doesn't count. If I'm in a boxing match can I call in my 2 pitbulls to assist me? no. Can I call in zombie mahamed ali? no.

Get over yourself OP. You narutard fans need to read a dictionary.
>Inb4 the only responses to this post is about sasuke's eyes like Igaf about sasuke's stolen powers.




This is valid, but the arguments clearly assume any chakra, which you were born with, as 'yours'. It's still the juubi's, but it's your own abilities from birth


Really? You're getting into this crap all of the sudden? Using natural energy is no different from using food. Both are external fuels. It's like Saying Superman uses borrowed power.
 
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Oh really, so they're not gathering, natural energy from nature.... which is given back, to nature, once they use a jutsu or exit SM? Sounds like the definition of borrowing to me. :vincent:

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Asking for power from a tailed beast is borrowing. Asking for help is external support. Gathering energy from nature is borrowing said energy.

Edo tensei doesn't count; You used the jutsu but it's not your abilities that are doing anything. I don't see DSM kabuto using PS or soloing gokages, etc nor do I see orochimaru using wood god. That ain't their abilities. The same way you gain support from tailed beasts is the same way you gain support from Edo's. You're calling in support, not fighting for yourself. It doesn't count. If I'm in a boxing match can I call in my 2 pitbulls to assist me? no. Can I call in zombie mahamed ali? no.

Get over yourself OP. You narutard fans need to read a dictionary.
>Inb4 the only responses to this post is about sasuke's eyes like Igaf about sasuke's stolen powers.




This is valid, but the arguments clearly assume any chakra, which you were born with, as 'yours'. It's still the juubi's, but it's your own abilities from birth

Oh sauce fangirls borrowing all of the planet's resources.
 

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my argument:

Imperfect Sage Mode = MS

Perfect Sage Mode = EMS

I heavily prefer Sasuke but this is my thoughts also:

Sasuke's Sharingan = Naruto's Uzumaki Body
 

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this.

it just shows how dumb uchiwa fans are. it is really pathetic.

kishi would slap whoever said that in the face with a closed fist.

One uchiha fan said that,so they're all morons? Dat logic
 

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Only butt hurt Sasuke fans would think so because Sasuke can't use it. Never mind the fact that Sasuke got his techniques from Itachi and Orochimaru. Hypocrites.
 
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