Sage Mode and Mangekyou Sharingan are Equal

[mateosss]

NO NO NO NO NO WAYYYY

ITACI and J-MAN is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>j-man

itachi and minato is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minato

itachi and nagato is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nagato

 

[PainIsGod]

NO NO NO NO NO WAYYYY

ITACI and J-MAN is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>j-man

itachi and minato is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minato

itachi and nagato is not even equal

bcoz itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nagato

Gtfo:scorps:

 

[Shonuff]

Again, this is a ****ing stupid argument.

Sage Mode is a state of being, not a jutsu itself. The MS and EMS grant JUTSU, but is not a state of being more than the ability to use new jutsu.

ALL SAGE MODE DOES IS AMPLIFY ABILITIES YOU ALREADY HAVE. There is no "equal" to it and MS.

Meaning that if Sasuke knew how to use Sage Mode, his Amaterasu would be more powerful IN Sage Mode than WITHOUT it. Sage Mode granted Naruto a few abilities that aren't normal, such as enhanced perception (something that the Sharingan has), the ability to sense chakra (which in a fight isn't a killer technique) and Frog-fu which isn't a technique on the scale of Amaterasu. It's the jutsu that he already has, along with a strength and speed increase receiving a boost that makes Sage Mode so great. Naruto was low-jonin level without Sage Mode, and with it, he became what is known as "Kage" material. All it did was amplify what he could do.

It's not a hard concept to wrap your head around. Sharingan is an exclusive ability used by only a select few people, whereas Sage Mode can be used by anyone with a large chakra reserve (with Dragon Sage Mode needing a particular body). This means that even Kakashi could learn Sage Mode if he gained a larger chakra reserve.

but u dont jus gain a large chakra reserve and u dont jus become a sage,. Now if that were true i might agree with u. u make it seem like becoming a sage is like becoming hokage or a top level shinobi its more than that alot more u have to be born with specific traits not only haveing a large charka reserve but extreme will power another thing u have to be born with! sage mode is somthing only a few can learn. sage mode is a jutsu as well as a state of being so they are not equal:flaw:

 

[Shonuff]

oh yeah and by the way jiraya will wipe the floor with itachi. F**K Outta here boy, Jiraya might be a goof ball on the outside but when it comes down to battle no games are being played. u can come up with 6billion ways itachi will counter jiraya's justu's at the end of the day Who ran when they had the advantage. (itachi) i thought so! u dont run from someone u can beat and if he has so many jutsu's at his disposil meaning itachi why didnt he use them?! cause he knew "i cant beat this dude he's gonna rape me". while i think itachi is the most badass dude in the manga, next to the first Hokage ofcourse. dont try to Sh*T on my dude Jiraya at all tha goes for everybody and anybody...

 

[Turson]

oh yeah and by the way jiraya will wipe the floor with itachi. F**K Outta here boy, Jiraya might be a goof ball on the outside but when it comes down to battle no games are being played. u can come up with 6billion ways itachi will counter jiraya's justu's at the end of the day Who ran when they had the advantage. (itachi) i thought so! u dont run from someone u can beat and if he has so many jutsu's at his disposil meaning itachi why didnt he use them?! cause he knew "i cant beat this dude he's gonna rape me". while i think itachi is the most badass dude in the manga, next to the first Hokage ofcourse. dont try to Sh*T on my dude Jiraya at all tha goes for everybody and anybody...

First of all, entering SM takes a shitload time for Jiraiya. Itachi wouldnt let him. Second, summons weakness is Sharingan, and SM Jiraiya has two on his arms. Itachi can simply take control over them and decapitate pervy. Like it or nor, Jiraiya dont stand a chance to win this. He relies on summons too much.

 

[Watatsumi]

Itachi's Mangekyou >> Jiraiya's imperfect sage mode.
Face it.

 

[enditallsin]

itachi probably will beat jiriaya but itachi's still a ***** punk bitch that would get shitted on by many others don't wanna bring up names at the moment....

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

When was it stated that itachi and jman were equals? Last time I read the manga itachi praised jman as a stronger ninja saying that even with back up the most they could do is draw.

They are just blind fanboys let it be :shrug:

 

[~Yubel~]

MS kills SM.

 

[home]

sage mode>>>ms

 

[Turson]

sage mode>>>ms

Not really.

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

Considering the jiraya fans Arguments have been torn apart in this thread i beg
to differ.


Besides it was that last everything itachi said before he died was a lie. so the hype towards jiraya is false.
he had a reason to lie to protect konoha.

If you can coome up with something decent or worth while i might have some respect for you.

you'r right I forgot , i beg your apologizes , but we still have no proof that Jiraiya is stronger or that Itachi is stronger unless i see the battle i cannot decide U_U

 

[Unorthodox]

man i hate when people say j-man beat itachi that was part 1 long ago and i dont every recall itachi saying jiraiya he was talking bout j-man has no defence to amaterasu or susanoo or genjutsu he loses naruto said they were both die so that means he would have went all out using nine tails and hole so sage mode want do it periode

 

[Shamita]

When was it stated that itachi and jman were equals? Last time I read the manga itachi praised jman as a stronger ninja saying that even with back up the most they could do is draw.

i agree
who are you even comparing....he is one of the legendery ninja's..!!!
its true that the manga dint show much of his abilities
and as for the fight with pain jman was at a disadvantage as he did not know his enemies abilities
he knew he was walking into a dead end....
he was prepared to die
nd itachi did state him as a ninja worthy of praise :scorps:

 

[zion666]

i agree.

 

[ekkla]

itachi > jiraya ....smh beliveit

 

[HNIC]

people cant simply disagree with that statement as the Senji=Uchiha and their known for having the body of the So6p, while Uchiha had his eyes. Therefore, it basically is SM=MS

 

[Turson]

people cant simply disagree with that statement as the Senji=Uchiha and their known for having the body of the So6p, while Uchiha had his eyes. Therefore, it basically is SM=MS

Senjuus had nothing to do with Sage mode, so I dont see logic in that conection.

 

[HNIC]

Senjuus had nothing to do with Sage mode, so I dont see logic in that conection.

i know that, but we dont know the extent of the Senju having the body of the So6p which could simply the same as SM. It would make sense, as Tobi said Naruto as destined to fight and Tobi has compared his to the Hokage.

to totally think Senju (a powerful clan that ran the villages) are completly irrevelent in the series is ridiculous. SM if anything is a similar affect, Kish didint want to phrase it in the same matter

 

[OWanime]

it's more like sm = 3 tomoes, km = ms/ems (if we've seen all i can do already), bm = suigetsu scroll aid xd