TouchMyMangos
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1. Naruto & Sasuke:
Naruto and Sasuke were stated as equals with their respective Sage and MS powerups.
But Sasuke is someone who could spam MS arrows and Amaterasu at will, which would mean, Naruto would either have to dodge em, or make a batch of clones, so Sasuke wouldn't know which to hit, but Amaterasu can make sure to destroy a great group of clones, so dodging the arrows was at place, as well as dodging Amaterasu, I really don't think Sage Naruto had any other option for those but use his speed. Just a second arrow could have killed a Kage level like Kakashi.
2. Itachi and Jiraiya were stated as equals.
This statement has brought on alot of controversy, and I honestly don't know why. Does Jiraiya not look as impressive as Itachi?
Jiraiya is someone who defeated Konan, someone who gave Tobi, alot of trouble, in his Base Mode. And at the same time, Kisame admitted he was no match for Jiraiya, while Itachi quickly defeats Deidara, another Akatsuki member, in this aspect, they seem very even to me.
Jiraiya did esentially well againts Pain, to the point he defeated 3 paths, without being touched, whereas 2 paths killed Kakashi. Even if Jiraiya had to rely on Frog song, thats still part of his power, and he had one pain trapped in Yomi Numa, and truthfully, those paths were no match for him. Sage Jiraiya can easily defeat summons, and defeat Preta Path. Personally, I don't think Itachi would have done any better againts Pain. Amaterasu gets absorbed, and Tsukuyomi doesn't work on zombies. Itachi would have to start relying on Susanoo just to stay alive.
Sage Mode pumps nature chakra constantly, which makes genjutsu useless, and Amaterasu, as shown by A, can be dodged by fast speeds, as well as other attacks like arrows/magatamas. A had knowledge on Amaterasu, but Jiraiya with Sage Mode would have Sensing abilities which would allow him to see where Amaterasu would hit, and be able to dodge it from there.
I know that the term "dodge it" seems easy to say, since we can say anyone can simply dodge something, but the fact is, we have seen how Kabuto has dodged both of the Uchiha brothers attacks, thanks to Sage Mode sensing/prediction, so its not really a stretch to say so.
With genjutsu useless, and his attacks (Amaterasu/Magatama/Tostuka) dodged, its only a matter of time before Susanoo takes its negative effect on Itachi, and if he's lucky, he can maybe hit Jiraiya with an Amaterasu, and thus he dies, while Susanoo strain kills Itachi.
Or, Jiraiya can use a Giant Swuamp amped with Sage chakra that sinks Susanoo, or after dodging and Pa & Ma realizing how dangerous Susanoo is, they decide to use Frog Song to paralyze it.
So IMO Sage Mode = MS
Naruto and Sasuke were stated as equals with their respective Sage and MS powerups.
But Sasuke is someone who could spam MS arrows and Amaterasu at will, which would mean, Naruto would either have to dodge em, or make a batch of clones, so Sasuke wouldn't know which to hit, but Amaterasu can make sure to destroy a great group of clones, so dodging the arrows was at place, as well as dodging Amaterasu, I really don't think Sage Naruto had any other option for those but use his speed. Just a second arrow could have killed a Kage level like Kakashi.
2. Itachi and Jiraiya were stated as equals.
This statement has brought on alot of controversy, and I honestly don't know why. Does Jiraiya not look as impressive as Itachi?
Jiraiya is someone who defeated Konan, someone who gave Tobi, alot of trouble, in his Base Mode. And at the same time, Kisame admitted he was no match for Jiraiya, while Itachi quickly defeats Deidara, another Akatsuki member, in this aspect, they seem very even to me.
Jiraiya did esentially well againts Pain, to the point he defeated 3 paths, without being touched, whereas 2 paths killed Kakashi. Even if Jiraiya had to rely on Frog song, thats still part of his power, and he had one pain trapped in Yomi Numa, and truthfully, those paths were no match for him. Sage Jiraiya can easily defeat summons, and defeat Preta Path. Personally, I don't think Itachi would have done any better againts Pain. Amaterasu gets absorbed, and Tsukuyomi doesn't work on zombies. Itachi would have to start relying on Susanoo just to stay alive.
Sage Mode pumps nature chakra constantly, which makes genjutsu useless, and Amaterasu, as shown by A, can be dodged by fast speeds, as well as other attacks like arrows/magatamas. A had knowledge on Amaterasu, but Jiraiya with Sage Mode would have Sensing abilities which would allow him to see where Amaterasu would hit, and be able to dodge it from there.
I know that the term "dodge it" seems easy to say, since we can say anyone can simply dodge something, but the fact is, we have seen how Kabuto has dodged both of the Uchiha brothers attacks, thanks to Sage Mode sensing/prediction, so its not really a stretch to say so.
With genjutsu useless, and his attacks (Amaterasu/Magatama/Tostuka) dodged, its only a matter of time before Susanoo takes its negative effect on Itachi, and if he's lucky, he can maybe hit Jiraiya with an Amaterasu, and thus he dies, while Susanoo strain kills Itachi.
Or, Jiraiya can use a Giant Swuamp amped with Sage chakra that sinks Susanoo, or after dodging and Pa & Ma realizing how dangerous Susanoo is, they decide to use Frog Song to paralyze it.
So IMO Sage Mode = MS
