[VS] Sage Jiraiya vs Hashirama

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Need to restrict wood style from Hashirama to make this fair.....
 

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-Frog song is countered by merging with wood constructs.
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-boss summons are countered with wood dragon

-Jiraiya gets defeated before he can even prep frog song with basic mokuton
Sound travels thru constructs, hashirama would still be caught. And to my understanding that is a mokuton merginig with the tree, not yamato himself.

And the boss summons are their so jiraiya can have enough time to prepare.

I'm not gonna take you seriously..
Clearly you cant think of a counter

Lol, can't believe you are even trying to debate for J-man.

Thinking hashirama can solo 3 sages and 4 boss summons are ridiculous. Especially if he is restricted from using senjutsu himself. If hashirama did have sage mode then i definitely woul agree this is a stomp, but without it he doesnt take this without getting caught in a genjutsu that he has no knowledge on.

Oh look. Another stomp thread with OP being a retard. :|

Im gonna ignore the fact that you think so highly of yourself that you would result to calling me a retard over my views on a fictional cartoon. I thought you were more mature than that.

If you werent going to provide an arguement you didnt have to respond.
 
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Hashriama is overrated. He isn't stomping sage jiraya with all 3 boss summons.

Keep in mind that I never said jiraya would win, however that doesn't mean jiraya won't put up a good fight.

And nb really does just rely on name calling doesn't it U_U and why? Because of differing options, my goodness.
 

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Im gonna ignore the fact that you think so highly of yourself that you would result to calling me a retard over my views on a fictional cartoon. I thought you were more mature than that.

If you werent going to provide an arguement you didnt have to respond.

It being a "fictional cartoon" doesn't mean that stupid things can't be said about it or relating to it. You attempting to argue Jiraiya vs. Hashirama when pretty much everything, feats, hype, and portrayal disagree. Thus you are being a retard.
 

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Hashirama negs.
First of all, he restrains Jiraiya to make sure he doesn't move, and then forces him to do something kinky.
 

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Even the Gokage were considered childsplay in light of Hashirama. Debating whether Jiraiya can do shit here is really retarded.
 

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Look at all these Wood riders.

Hashirama lost to an old man in part 1

Jiraiya could beat Pein who was God with his borrowed rinnegan powers.

Jiraiya beats Hashirama neg diff.
 

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Hashirama in base is like 10-20 times stronger than J-man.
 

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Frog Song takes prep and Hashirama would have destroyed him before he can do anything.
 

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It being a "fictional cartoon" doesn't mean that stupid things can't be said about it or relating to it. You attempting to argue Jiraiya vs. Hashirama when pretty much everything, feats, hype, and portrayal disagree. Thus you are being a retard.

Sage Mode Jiraiya was able to hold his own against the legendary Rinnegan. Potrayal and hype have nothing to do with this. This is solely about feats.

Yet no one has stated how Hashirama counters Demonic Toad Chant. Its not that stupid of a argument. This is no different from saying DSM Kabuto vs. Hashirama.. Hashirama has no feats that would allow us to believe he can counter White Dragon Rage.

I could understand if I was trolling, but clearly anyone could see I'm serious. So I wouldnt mind having a conversation with you and maybe you could present evidence to change my outlook on the situation, but if you continue on just name calling without any evidence to support your claim then you are welcome to dismiss yourself from this conversation. I expected a older member of this base to have more mature then that.

Hashirama negs.
First of all, he restrains Jiraiya to make sure he doesn't move, and then forces him to do something kinky.

Even if he restrained Jiraiya, ma and pa could set him free as they sit freely on his shoulders.

Even the Gokage were considered childsplay in light of Hashirama. Debating whether Jiraiya can do shit here is really retarded.

This is Sage Mode Jiraiya not base jiraiya. He has all the power of Mt. Myobuku at his command.

Hashirama in base is like 10-20 times stronger than J-man.

Could you clarify how? His constructs are on a larger scale, but 4 boss toads could help counter or distract for enought time to K.O hashirama in Genjutsu.

Frog Song takes prep and Hashirama would have destroyed him before he can do anything.

Mind explaining how. Jaraiya has the ability to defend while ma and pa prepare, and preparation doesnt take long. He could simply bide his time, or use boss toads as distractions since hashirama wouldnt know what he was preparing.
 
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Look at all these Wood riders.

Hashirama lost to an old man in part 1

Jiraiya could beat Pein who was God with his borrowed rinnegan powers.

Jiraiya beats Hashirama neg diff.

It definitely wouldnt be neg diff. High Diff at the least, but I have a strong feeling you are trolling sooooooooo........
 

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Anyone with even half a brain knows that Jiraiya gets wrecked,
 

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Mind explaining how. Jaraiya has the ability to defend while ma and pa prepare, and preparation doesnt take long. He could simply bide his time, or use boss toads as distractions since hashirama wouldnt know what he was preparing.
He's not handling multiple wood clones nor is he defending from Wood Dragon.

His summons are useless here.
 

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Sage Mode Jiraiya was able to hold his own against the legendary Rinnegan. Potrayal and hype have nothing to do with this. This is solely about feats.

Pain didn't go all out and Jiraiya still got pooped on. Not to mention he isn't anywhere close to the real power of the Rinnegan due to not being the original wielder, and due to further weakening himself by using the Six Paths Bodies. EMS Madara>Pain, and Base Hashirama beat him before VotE. Hashirama was called God of Shinobi. His hype>>>>Jiraiya's hype. His portrayal>>>>Jiraiya's portrayal. His feats>>>>Jiraiya's feats. Don't know why you are actually trying to argue that Jiraiya, someone who lost to a Pain who didn't use his full power, will defeat Base Hashirama, who was able to beat EMS Madara.



Yet no one has stated how Hashirama counters Demonic Toad Chant. Its not that stupid of a argument. This is no different from saying DSM Kabuto vs. Hashirama.. Hashirama has no feats that would allow us to believe he can counter White Dragon Rage.
Yes. Its a dumb argument. Saying "Gama Rinsho GG" isn't an argument anyway since Gama Rinsho needs prep, and I've seen absolutely nothing from you that leads me to believe Jiraiya will be able to survive long enough to use it. Not when he has nowhere to hide, and not when he can't overpower or defend from Hashirama's attacks.

-Boss Toads are fodder. Mokuryu is strong enough to physically restrain Full Kurama, as he needed Bijuu Dama to blow it up. If it can physically overpower Kurama, it physically manhandles all these Toads with little difficulty. Adding Mokujin only makes it worse. Each toad gets pasted by these two constructs. Doesn't help that a normal Shinra Tensei from Pain took them all out. Hashirama can make 5 hands at a time, each the size of Full Kurama, from where ever he needs to be. Hands were fast enough to catch Madara's PS blade, so the toads aren't evading them. They get crushed. Mokuton can sprout from anywhere, even Killer couldn't react in time. Toads get restrained, or Hashirama replicates this with Flower Tree World instead, the Toads get bound and crushed like Onoki's Golem, and Jiraiya gets put to sleep. GG for him.

-You said Goemon counters Jukai Kotan. Wrong. Goemon isn't large enough to cover the whole jutsu, so the branches that aren't hit still get through and Jiraiya gets crushed to death.

-Jiraiya's strongest move is Chou Oodama Rasengan, too bad Hashirama can tank a Bijuu Dama with minimal damage.

Haven't even mentioned Clones yet, who can replicate most of Hashirama's large scale Ninjutsu. S

I could understand if I was trolling, but clearly anyone could see I'm serious. So I wouldnt mind having a conversation with you and maybe you could present evidence to change my outlook on the situation, but if you continue on just name calling without any evidence to support your claim then you are welcome to dismiss yourself from this conversation. I expected a older member of this base to have more mature then that.

If you really want me to take this nonsense seriously, I'll take it seriously. Doesn't change the fact that comparing Jiraiya to Hashirama is retarded.
 
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Hashirama couldn't even best Kakuzu. Jiriya kicks his head off. GG NO RE. U_U
 
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