[Discussion] Sabo vs pre ts Blackbeard

[kyubbi sagemode]

Location: ace vs blackbeard
Restrictions: none
Knowledge: they will learn each others abilities as fight goes on

Scenario one: sabo(no devil fruit) vs yami only teach
Scenario two: sabo(mera mera fruit) vs pre ts gura and yami teach

Who wins?

 

[Shanks]

Scenario One: Blackbeard

Scenario two : Sabo will win this .

 

[Fireplay]

Sabo wins both.

 

[Zorø]

Scenario 1: Sabo wins
Scenario 2: Blackbeard wins U_U.

 

[xanonymosx]

1- sabo mid-high
2- bb mid high

 

[Hexuze]

1. Sabo mid-high diff.
2. BB high diff.

 

[Ridoku X]

Sabo wins both. He only recently got his df, so he isn't one of those cocky DF users v_v

Also, he is proficient enough with Haki.

 

[Kαmi]

S1: Sabo mid-high diff.

S2: Sabo high diff.

 

[Bogard]

Teach wins both scenarios with the first one being the toughest. I rate pre-mera Sabo as someone slightly stronger than Doflamingo at the moment with Yami Teach being moderately stronger, so he should take this with around high-very high difficutly

Gura+Yami Teach will defeat Mera Sabo even easier with around mid difficulty

 

[Zeta42]

Sabo is a Haki monster, Teach stands no chance.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

Teach wins 2

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Teach wins both scenarios with the first one being the toughest. I rate pre-mera Sabo as someone slightly stronger than Doflamingo at the moment with Yami Teach being moderately stronger, so he should take this with around high-very high difficutly

Gura+Yami Teach will defeat Mera Sabo even easier with around mid difficulty

How does Teach win? The Yami Yami no Mi is only good against DF users, and Sabo is a Haki monster and has no DF in Scenario 1.

 

[kageking]

Idk. If ace couldn't beat BB, I'm not convinced that sabo is much stronger than ace if at all.

 

[Zorø]

Idk. If ace couldn't beat BB, I'm not convinced that sabo is much stronger than ace if at all.

Sabo is a haki beast plus he didnt have a df at the time he could beat BB with relative ease.

 

[Bogard]

How does Teach win? The Yami Yami no Mi is only good against DF users, and Sabo is a Haki monster and has no DF in Scenario 1.

Because Teach totally craps on him physically? Teach is a physical monster. Sabo won't find ways to put him down easily.

@bold I hate when people say this. Re-read the manga please

 

[-Akuma-]

Because Teach totally craps on him physically? Teach is a physical monster. Sabo won't find ways to put him down easily.

@bold I hate when people say this. Re-read the manga please

Teach isn't a physical monster (to the point where he's pushing a low top tier with strength alone)and if you think Teach is beating Sabo with just pure physical strength you're sadly mistaken. Sabo's only problem is Teach's durability

 

[Bogard]

Teach isn't a physically monster (to the point where he's pushing a low top tier with strength alone)and if you think Teach is beating Sabo with just pure physical strength you're sadly mistaken. Sabo's only problem is Teach's durability

Well he is physically more powerful than Sabo, that's for certain to me. He scarred a yonkou and was close to crack a physical monster's neck like Ace's in one random punch, both feats of whom i don't see Sabo accomplishing. And no i didn't say he would win with physical strength alone. The yami yami potential is simply underrated. He destroyed a town with the darkness power of his DF pretty easily. The funny thing about the Sabo wank however is that so far his greatest destructive capacity is barely town level and that when i even factor in his devil fruit, so let alone without

 

[-Akuma-]

Well he is physically more powerful than Sabo, that's for certain to me. He scarred a yonkou and was close to crack a physical monster's neck like Ace's in one random punch, both feats of whom i don't see Sabo accomplishing. And no i didn't say he would win with physical strength alone. The yami yami potential is simply underrated. He destroyed a town with the darkness power of his DF pretty easily. The funny thing about the Sabo wank however is that so far his greatest destructive capacity is barely town level and that when i even factor in his devil fruit, so let alone without

Which Yonko did Teach Scare? Please don't tell me you're referring to WB and Shanks, neither were scared but they were both wary of Teach. I'd say crushing haki infused armour with just 3 fingers, and casually breaking Diamnate's sword which should be hard as shit due to his DF easily put Sabo with higher physical strength than Teach's. Teach's is DF loses most of it's effectiveness against non DF users, as for Sabo's 'wank' he can easily get scaled to weaker character which have accomplished better feats. Sabo's has been around for like half and arc lol.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Well he is physically more powerful than Sabo, that's for certain to me. He scarred a yonkou and was close to crack a physical monster's neck like Ace's in one random punch, both feats of whom i don't see Sabo accomplishing. And no i didn't say he would win with physical strength alone. The yami yami potential is simply underrated. He destroyed a town with the darkness power of his DF pretty easily. The funny thing about the Sabo wank however is that so far his greatest destructive capacity is barely town level and that when i even factor in his devil fruit, so let alone without

I'm pretty sure Ace doesn't have good durability. Pre TS Luffy took as similar attack from BB and suffered less than Ace did.

 

[Anduril]

Scenario 1 : Sabo would have crushed teach.
Scenario 2: Teach wins High diff.