[VS] Sabo vs Kuma

[Donald J Trump]

Intent: Kill

Distance:20 meters

Location: In a field

Sabo has the Flare Flare fruit

Restrictions: None

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Hmmm this could either way....Sabo needs to be careful otherwise Kuma will send him flying

Sabo wins against Mindless Kuma though

 

[loj]

My man Sabo takes this.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kuma wins. While Sabo is indeed powerful, his fighting style revolves around getting in close and engaging in close combat. Kuma sends him flying at the first blow. Even if Kuma isn't overall stronger, his powers are a bad match-up for someone like Sabo.

 

[Zorø]

Sabo would win his haki is enough to cancel kuma's defelction ability so he should take it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sabo would win his haki is enough to cancel kuma's defelction ability so he should take it.

You don't even know that that's how it works.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Kuma wins this high diff tho


I think sabo fighting style bites him in ass ... Close combat against kuma isn't tht good cuz like ppl said above he will b sent away not to mention kuma can heal from attacks by taking his pain out of himself... And he's faster for most part due to teleporting

If it's mindless kuma despite having more durability he would lose to sabo mid diff cuz of no combat prowess

But breaking it down

Devil fruit mastery obvious kuma
Haki even if kuma has it I still think sabo has better haki
Speed kuma
Strength sabo
Durability Def kuma espiecjally when healing is involved
Stamina kuma as well
Fighting with devil fruit kuma
Destruction Idk Tie

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Kuma wins this high diff tho


I think sabo fighting style bites him in ass ... Close combat against kuma isn't tht good cuz like ppl said above he will b sent away not to mention kuma can heal from attacks by taking his pain out of himself... And he's faster for most part due to teleporting

If it's mindless kuma despite having more durability he would lose to sabo mid diff cuz of no combat prowess

But breaking it down

Devil fruit mastery obvious kuma
Haki even if kuma has it I still think sabo has better haki
Speed kuma
Strength sabo
Durability Def kuma espiecjally when healing is involved
Stamina kuma as well
Fighting with devil fruit kuma
Destruction Idk Tie

 

[-Akuma-]

Sabo wins.

 

[OG sama]

Kuma wins. While Sabo is indeed powerful, his fighting style revolves around getting in close and engaging in close combat. Kuma sends him flying at the first blow. Even if Kuma isn't overall stronger, his powers are a bad match-up for someone like Sabo.

With that logic Garp and Luffy should lose every time against Kuma. His paw definitely has some damn limit or else no CQC fighter would ever beat Kuma.

Sabo takes this high diff, theres definitely some flaw to his deflective paw.

 

[Punk Hazard]

With that logic Garp and Luffy should lose every time against Kuma. His paw definitely has some damn limit or else no CQC fighter would ever beat Kuma.

Sabo takes this high diff, theres definitely some flaw to his deflective paw.

While that's fair enough, we don't know what this flaw is, or even if it's something Sabo has the ability to exploit or not. "There has to be some kind of weakness" isn't good enough, because then I could just say every single person exploits it and place Kuma really low on ranking lists. Until the weakness is revealed, I won't be using or considering it in debates. So, for me, Kuma wins.

 

[OG sama]

While that's fair enough, we don't know what this flaw is, or even if it's something Sabo has the ability to exploit or not. "There has to be some kind of weakness" isn't good enough, because then I could just say every single person exploits it and place Kuma really low on ranking lists. Until the weakness is revealed, I won't be using or considering it in debates. So, for me, Kuma wins.

So if this was a Garp vs Kuma thread you would give the win to Kuma? I think it probably depends on how strong the persons Haki is or else even EOS Sabo and Luffy still won't have a chance and we all know that ain't happening.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So if this was a Garp vs Kuma thread you would give the win to Kuma? I think it probably depends on how strong the persons Haki is or else even EOS Sabo and Luffy still won't have a chance and we all know that ain't happening.

TBH, I would be more inclined to say Kuma wins. The stronger combatant isn't always the one that wins. Hax can work just as good as pure, brute power.

Or you could be so fast, Kuma doesn't get the chance of stopping you. And I don't see Sabo as being that fast.

 

[OG sama]

TBH, I would be more inclined to say Kuma wins. The stronger combatant isn't always the one that wins. Hax can work just as good as pure, brute power.

Or you could be so fast, Kuma doesn't get the chance of stopping you. And I don't see Sabo as being that fast.

Yeah its Haxxed, its reasonable to say with current feats that they would indeed lose. Until or if his paw shows some weakness of course, sometimes its all about match up.

 

[shon93]

Kuma wins. While Sabo is indeed powerful, his fighting style revolves around getting in close and engaging in close combat. Kuma sends him flying at the first blow. Even if Kuma isn't overall stronger, his powers are a bad match-up for someone like Sabo.

It works both ways in other for Kuma to send him flying he has to get risk getting burned bro. You have to be careful when u are dealing with fire. And even if he got close and sent him flying there would be minimal damage

Think of it this way. When he paws connect Sabo can do what Kizaru did and shift into lovia mode to lessen the damage

 

[Punk Hazard]

It works both ways in other for Kuma to send him flying he has to get risk getting burned bro. You have to be careful when u are dealing with fire. And even if he got close and sent him flying there would be minimal damage

Think of it this way. When he paws connect Sabo can do what Kizaru did and shift into lovia mode to lessen the damage

Seeing as Kuma repelled a flying slash and Usopp's fire without his paws being cut, burned, or otherwise damaged, I think he'll be fine.

 

[shon93]

Seeing as Kuma repelled a flying slash and Usopp's fire without his paws being cut, burned, or otherwise damaged, I think he'll be fine.

loll u really comparing slingshot fire to fire itself...loll why did u change your Doffy pic u use to be the biggest fan. A million Doffy vs threads a month..loll

 

[Punk Hazard]

loll u really comparing slingshot fire to fire itself...loll why did u change your Doffy pic u use to be the biggest fan. A million Doffy vs threads a month..loll

1. Yes. "Slingshot fire", it's still fire. It's not on the same level as fire attacks from the Mera Mera no Mi, sure, but Kuma's paws still deflected it. Showing that his deflection powers nullified the effects the fire would have had on his paws, i.e., burning. This is further supported by the fact that Zoro's flying slash made direct contact with his paws, and was repelled without cutting him. Again, the attack's effects were nullified. Therefore, the same would happen with attacks from Sabo, and Kuma can repel Sabo while he's in his fire form since he repelled fire itself already, as well as the immaterial flying slash and the non-tangible air itself. There's no reason to think Kuma can't repel Sabo or any attacks from the Mera.

2. @Bold How can you already be getting desperate

 

[bajram]

Sabo wins quite handily, his haki and his physical abilities far exceed anything Kuma has shown so far, an hax ability isnt going to overturn all the other down weights Kuma has in this fight.

 

[shon93]

1. Yes. "Slingshot fire", it's still fire. It's not on the same level as fire attacks from the Mera Mera no Mi, sure, but Kuma's paws still deflected it. Showing that his deflection powers nullified the effects the fire would have had on his paws, i.e., burning. This is further supported by the fact that Zoro's flying slash made direct contact with his paws, and was repelled without cutting him. Again, the attack's effects were nullified. Therefore, the same would happen with attacks from Sabo, and Kuma can repel Sabo while he's in his fire form since he repelled fire itself already, as well as the immaterial flying slash and the non-tangible air itself. There's no reason to think Kuma can't repel Sabo or any attacks from the Mera.

2. @Bold How can you already be getting desperate

I dont like your logic yoru basically saying if you can deflect Nami's thunderbolt you should be able to deflect Enels thunerbolt. Bro their are levels to this shit. Why couldn't he deflect Iva's hell wink. Granted he wasnt completely himself but the reason was clear. The attacks came it flurries from a bunch of different angles. All I'm saying is Sabo shoul be able to recreate that with his Mera Mera

Also I never said Kuma can't deflect fire. He can do it but impact isnt going to be the same. When logias get hit they tranform into there mode to lessen the impact right? Kuma wouldnt just have his way with Sabo. I feel like close range fighters stand a better chance against Kuma because they put immeiate pressure on his. If u sit back an launch long range attacks against Kuma he can block them

But if Sabo gets inside using his close range skills he can use the Mera Mera at point black range like he easily prove he could do this chapter casually

Oh and loll I didnt mean anything but your pic when u see someone rockin the same pic of a charcter for so long its weird when u see another one. Just the wrong threa too ask that