[VS] Sabo VS Jack

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Firstmate of a Yonkou ship, well yes common sense shows that Burgess is stronger. And what you have problem comprehending is the strength of Sabo. Sabo would beat Shiryuu all the same if not worse than he did Burguess. Shiryuu is featless and Hakiless from what we've seen.
I do have proof that Burguess is firstmate too.
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1st division captains are the firstmmate, there's no higher position after the Yonkou captain.
Oda said that division rank doesn't matter. Do you think that Ace is stronger than Jozu and Vista since he was the 2nd division commander?
 

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Oda said that division rank doesn't matter. Do you think that Ace is stronger than Jozu and Vista since he was the 2nd division commander?
1. So you're telling me that Ace is stronger than Marco now? Since the rank doesn't matter, right?
2. First division not second, third, or fifth.
3. Oda said Whitebeard's crew not Blackbeard's
4. Common sense 1st>>>The rest
 

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1. So you're telling me that Ace is stronger than Marco now? Since the rank doesn't matter, right?
2. First division not second, third, or fifth.
3. Oda said Whitebeard's crew not Blackbeard's
4. Common sense 1st>>>The rest
Where did you even get Ace>Marco from my post? It should be common sense that the Yonko FM wouldn't get low diffed by another Yonko FM level character, but it appears that you have no common sense.
 

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There seems to be a lot of Sabo wanking in this thread, how does Sabo need to be stronger than Jack? Some of you are just acting bias as hell, Sabo ain't admiral level and still has a lot of growing to do just like the Revo army and the future PK does. Some of you guys are using that played out ass PK logic, as if Sabo needs to be stronger than everyone right now.

I fail to see how second in command of revos has more hype going for him than someone who could possibly be the FM of a yonko, the revos aren't ready to take down the WG right now so they both seem like Yonko FM level equivalent fighters.
But you wouldn't be Jack wanking?

Lets take things into perspective here:

4 Yonko = Pirates who have teritories in the New World.

New world = 50% of the Grandline

In that 50% of the grandline = about a quarter of it isn't explored (the raftel area).


On the other hand you have the World government:

- Consists of Armies of 170 nations
- Has the CP 0-9
- Has the Marines HQ and, other marines that aren't in the grandline, but taking care of things in other seas.



Now revolutionary army is an army, that plans to take on the World Government, and they are starting to make their move now. And you believe that they'd be inferior to 1 of the 4 pirates who has a percentage of territories in a small area of the grandline?


I agree that Sabo still needs some growing before being able to defeat an admiral. But being able to take on an admiral and hold his own is another story. As hes already shown he can, despite being new to the Devil fruit. Is it that he doesn't have the hype of destroying countries and what not? Because if thats the case.. he could've wrecked Doflamingo's island, and then easily left. While the only person able to stop him would've been an admiral. Same admiral who can stop Jack. Second-in-command of the RA , would be able being 1 of 3 calamities of a Yonko.
 

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Where did you even get Ace>Marco from my post? It should be common sense that the Yonko FM wouldn't get low diffed by another Yonko FM level character, but it appears that you have no common sense.
The only person without common sense here is you.
Where are you getting this bold part from? You don't know a firstmates level at all. So keep whatever assumptions away from what is already factual because this retort is weak as all your other posts.
 
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Shiryuu gets if he ever tried. Get over yourself.
This is just getting sad. Anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size should be able to realize that Burgess is not the FM and Shiryuu is. Burgess is too weak to be FM since he got low diffed a Yonko FM level character. Shiryuu parallels Zoro, who is the 2nd strongest member of the SHs, so obviously Shiryu should be the 2nd strongest of the BB Pirates.
 

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This is just getting sad. Anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size should be able to realize that Burgess is not the FM and Shiryuu is.
Off no bases whatsoever. BB rankings prove everything else you stated to be garbage.
And you of all people shouldn't be comparing IQ, I clearly outclassed you in every turn. You're just stubborn.
And don't bother bringing up rankings not mattering because Blackbeard is not Whitebeard.

Burgess is too weak to be FM since he got low diffed a Yonko FM level character. Shiryuu parallels Zoro, who is the 2nd strongest member of the SHs, so obviously Shiryu should be the 2nd strongest of the BB Pirates.
All three parts I just put in bold are not only completely false, but you just made it up to fit your little perfect scenario.
Comeback when you actually have something true for once because you can't even pull up a manga page to support this thing. Not even a filler can help you with this lie.
 

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Off no bases whatsoever. BB rankings prove everything else you stated to be garbage.
And you of all people shouldn't be comparing IQ, I clearly outclassed you in every turn. You're just stubborn.
And don't bother bringing up rankings not mattering because Blackbeard is not Whitebeard.



All three parts I just put in bold are not only completely false, but you just made it up to fit your little perfect scenario.
Comeback when you actually have something true for once because you can't even pull up a manga page to support this thing. Not even a filler can help you with this lie.
Show me some proof that division number matters within the BB Pirates.
 

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Do you have any proof that the 1st division commander is always the first mate? Oda even said that division rank doesn't matter, so you can't use Marco as proof.
Again, Whitebeard is not Blackbeard.
And this easily leads right back to the Marco thing again. You're just going in circles. I can't take someone like you seriously, what are you a troll?
 

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Again, Whitebeard is not Blackbeard.
And this easily leads right back to the Marco thing again. You're just going in circles. I can't take someone like you seriously, what are you a troll?
So do you have any proof that division number matters in the BB Pirates? Do you think that Burgess is going to fight Zoro when the BB Pirates and SH Pirates fight?
 
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