[Discussion] Sabo vs Ivankov vs Bartholomew

[MickNerks]

Dragon decides to put his 3 top commanders against each other to decide who will be his official right hand man. Who wins and why?​

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Location: Doffy vs Law vs Fujitora

Distance: 75 meters

Condition: Ivankov and Kuma can use armandment haki and Observation haki (Its expected as dragons commanders). Kuma is also in control.

Restrictions: None

Who wins? And please dont just say sabo based off some biased for his character because, pre-time skip im pretty sure Kuma would have smacked Ace.​

 

[A$AP Wap]

i think sabo wins

 

[MickNerks]

i think sabo wins

I don't understand how Sabo would get pass Kuma's Paw Paw powers. I honestly dont think Mera Mera will be that effective against kuma thanks to his cyborg like body.

And I also see Ivankov being a problem if he uses Spectrem to create multiple copies of himself and hits everyone with a wide range Galaxy Wink

 

[Venomous Cobra]

honestly I'd say kuma wins

 

[A$AP Wap]

I don't understand how Sabo would get pass Kuma's Paw Paw powers. I honestly dont think Mera Mera will be that effective against kuma thanks to his cyborg like body.

And I also see Ivankov being a problem if he uses Spectrem to create multiple copies of himself and hits everyone with a wide range Galaxy Wink

yeah, now that i think of it, Ivankov might actually win this

 

[Heavens Tremble]

Even if pre skip Ace and pre skip Sabo were equal they are miles apart now and Sabo also has Mera Mera no mi. Having said that I think Kuma wins this because of his speed and DF.

 

[MickNerks]

honestly I'd say kuma wins

yeah, now that i think of it, Ivankov might actually win this

Honestly for me, though Sabo made a GREAT showing in the coliseum, I don't see anyway he could win this against these 2 veterans.

And after Marineford's Ivankov vs Kuma, I really dont know who would win because Kuma was being controlled and Ivankov never takes any of his fights seriously.

Im leaning more toward Ivankov though due to his ability to heal himself and him already showing a way to bypass others observation haki.

 

[ultraChalk]

Can't say for sure right now, I'll have to sleep on it.

But just putting it out there, it would probably prevent a lot of confusion if you said Kuma instead of his actual name. =D

 

[VongolaX]

Well I don't think Kuma needs Haki, but in control a Kuma wins.

 

[MickNerks]

Well I don't think Kuma needs Haki, but in control a Kuma wins.

Would you mind explaining how kuma beats Ivankov, because i honestly cant see how he beats him..

Especially after seeing Ivankov hint that kuma, while he himself was known as bartholomew kuma the tyrant, had been known to fear Ivankov:

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[Bogard]

I think Sabo'd win. Ivankov was fodderized byAkainu. Not sure of his relevancy here

 

[-Akuma-]

Sabo wins, Paw-Paw is bypassed by haki.

 

[Kingu]

Kuma takes this. U_U

 

[Olorin]

Sabo would win, Ivankov was 0 match for an Admiral (or even Magellan for that matter) whilst Sabo was actually able to fight with Fujitora

 

[Zorø]

Sabo solos.

 

[Magi]

A toss up between Sabo and Kuma.. One has insane busoshoku haki whilst the other has a hax ability

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Sabo wins.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

How do you know they're his top three????

Sabo>Kuma>Ivankov

 

[MickNerks]

I think Sabo'd win. Ivankov was fodderized byAkainu. Not sure of his relevancy here

Ivankov held her own against akainu for a while, especially taking into account that ivankov doesnt take any of her fights seriously (except when kuma pissed her off and she put him down)

Sabo wins, Paw-Paw is bypassed by haki.

I what ways, paw paw has to much versatility.

Sabo would win, Ivankov was 0 match for an Admiral (or even Magellan for that matter) whilst Sabo was actually able to fight with Fujitora

Ivankov palyed with megallan at first and she also fought comdically with akainu.. She took a direct magma fist to the face and was unphased. Meanwhile that same fist killed Ace. Your severely overlooking some of ivankovs feats.

Im not saying she would win, but he is alot stronger and more durable than many of you are giving him credit for.

Also, it was very evident (at least for me) that fujitora was

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[MickNerks]

How do you know they're his top three????

Sabo>Kuma>Ivankov

IMO

Kuma with his own conscousness is >> Sabo

Kuma solo's an entire island, and effortlessly made preskip strawhats look like fodder.

He also held off the government and pirates from touching the thousand sunny for 2 full years and was successful