[Theory] Sabo (Possible Spoilers)

[Alternative]

As you know in recent events in the anime in the untold story of brothers, it was announced that Sabo was the third brother, with Ace and Luffy. In more recent events, Sabo is now presumed dead from sailing out to sea and being shot down by the Celestial Dragon whom was visiting the Nobles' and Royals'. This is a discussion to promote any theory you may have behind Sabo, whether you may think he really is dead or alive somewhere sacred away.

What I personally believe is a couple of theories. My first and foremost, major theory which I would love to believe is Sabo being alive, but part of the Revolutionary Army with Monkey D. Dragon. There are a few things to point this out however. Sabo had met Dragon just on the outskirts of Gray Terminal and told him that he'd remember what he had said, about hating the life of being a noble. Later, Dragon had found an injured person, and took him away on his ship, which leads to more theory that Sabo could be said injured person and with the revolutionary army.

My other theory has got more to do with Ace than anything. Ace was joined up with the Whitebeard Pirates, so he must've heard a lot about stuff, even since he was the Commander of the 2nd division. He also has the tattoo of ASCE with the S crossed out, which could mean one of two things, that Sabo really is dead, or Ace was even lead to believe that Sabo was dead, and Whitebeard knew nothing of the revolutionary army and never informed Ace about anything.


Anyway, share your thoughts and theories on Sabo here. :3

 

[Amanwithnoplan]

I'm pretty sure he had the ASCE tatoo before he set sail.

 

[uzukyubi]

well i got no theories of mine except for what you said about he being in revolution army!! may be he has become one of the elite armies of revolutionary team and may be he will face luffy or somehow they will fight and luffy is going to own him for he couldn't do when he was young!!

 

[Love Cook]

About the tatoo I believe that the S stands for Sabo as well.

This is a screencap from episode 504: Seperate departures.

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As you can see Ace (17) already has the tattoo on his arm, with 4 characters.

This picture was on the cover of chapter 596: Spectrum.

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It shows the brothers as three grown up boys, Luffy probably 17-19 here. The most interesting thing is that Ace's tatoo doesn't have an crossed out S anymore. So I think that Oda dropped clues that the S stands for Sabo.

I don't mind if Sabo is dead or alive. I like to see Luffy reunited with his brother of course but this sad childhood is a good story too. And One Piece shouldn't become some happy end fairy tale.

 

[Lili-Chwan]

I'm pretty sure Ace wanted to tattoo ACE, but wrote A then S, realized his mistake, and then crossed the S and continued C and E.

 

[Alternative]

I'm pretty sure Ace wanted to tattoo ACE, but wrote A then S, realized his mistake, and then crossed the S and continued C and E.

There's good theory in this but what makes you think that it was a mistake, and why would they just cross it out if it was a mistake? Then Ace might've gotten a tattoo which would look different than what he originally planned, but without the S. The S should stand for something.

 

[Caliburn]

I'm pretty sure Ace wanted to tattoo ACE, but wrote A then S, realized his mistake, and then crossed the S and continued C and E.

Incorrect. The crossed out S refers nearly beyond all doubt to Sabo. This is backed up by two things

1) The earlier posted cover page of Ace, Sabo and Luffy. It's pretty certain that, whether Sabo is alive or dead, Luffy and Ace consider him dead. However in the cover page Sabo is alive and thus the reference to Sabo in Ace's tattoo isn't needed. However they deem him dead in the manga, so he added a crossed out S to remember Sabo. If that wasn't the case then why would they have removed the crossed S on the cover? I mean if it was a mistake and it had to be a C instead of an S whether Sabo is alive or not doesn't have any relevance here.

2) Before Sabo set sail and got attacked by the Tenryuubito he sent a letter to Ace and Luffy. If you look closely in the manga to the details of the letter you can see that Sabo added his pirate mark: an S with crossed bones, simplified as a crossed S. So both Ace and Luffy knew Sabo's pirate mark and Ace tattooed it on his arm.

Before we knew something about Sabo it was assumed that it was just a mistake, that S, however after the Sabo story it's certain, knowing Oda, that it refers to Sabo.

 

[Crutch Kaguya]

S stands for ***, and the crossing out of it stands for abstinence.

Duh. U_U

 

[Love Cook]

S stands for ***, and the crossing out of it stands for abstinence.

Duh. U_U

And you know that because you have the same one ?

 

[Alternative]

I actually discussed this a while ago with a couple of other people about my theory of him joining the Revolutionary Army, and that these people were saying it wouldn't be possible, because him joining would make him quite well known. So know that Luffy must've heard of him. I don't think it could be like this, but whatever floats your boat. :3

 

[Abysmal.]

I actually discussed this a while ago with a couple of other people about my theory of him joining the Revolutionary Army, and that these people were saying it wouldn't be possible, because him joining would make him quite well known. So know that Luffy must've heard of him. I don't think it could be like this, but whatever floats your boat. :3

I doubt luffy would have heard of him.
Luffy had never heard of Dragon and wasn't even aware of the revolutionary army until Garp told him.
So i wouldn't throw that theory outta the window just yet.

 

[s0ulja]

i think sabo's stil alive, otherwise they probabli would have shown him actuali 'die'..i also think that the story of the 3 brothers was an introduction into how important sabo was to luffy before he makes an appearance...him being in the revolutionary army is a plausible theory..and if thats the case he'l hear about it from ivankov and meet luffy in the new world..or he could be captain of a strong crew there

 

[Alternative]

Well technically speaking, they couldn't have shown Sabo's death since his boat was shot at and sunk by the celestial dragon. It probably means Sabo's body was sunken down to the bottom of the sea.

Your theory with Ivankov does seem plausible, but pretty unlikely. Luffy wouldn't like to bring Sabo up around other people, since no one but himself really knows about him, apart from Dadan and the other Mountain Bandits. Ivankov wouldn't have known about Luffy's and Sabo's relationship either, so that's where your theory is kinda exploited.

 

[s0ulja]

i duno i jus think its unlikeli for some1 whos equalli strong as ace and for them to die like the way they showed it...it would be like naruto getting stabbed by one of the tree branches that zetsu turns into lol
what i meant about ivankov is him telling dragon and sabo over-hearing or something like that lol

 

[Crutch Kaguya]

And you know that because you have the same one ?

No, I have one where the S is circled.

 

[Dino]

Sabo is probably alive. In an episode, Dragon mentioned that he was at the Celestial Dragon welcoming party and then was seen to be injured. Dragon would never allow a kid to be killed in front of him, so the possible explanation is that he saved Sabo and got injured in the process.

 

[MantoraSama]

Sabo is probably alive. In an episode, Dragon mentioned that he was at the Celestial Dragon welcoming party and then was seen to be injured. Dragon would never allow a kid to be killed in front of him, so the possible explanation is that he saved Sabo and got injured in the process.

What has led you to believe Dragon is a sincere man? He could be the exact opposite of Luffy.

 

[Dino]

What has led you to believe Dragon is a sincere man? He could be the exact opposite of Luffy.

When Sabo asked for Help, Dragon saved those in the dumpster. Why would you think he isn't? Why do you think he's going against the World Government?

 

[MantoraSama]

When Sabo asked for Help, Dragon saved those in the dumpster. Why would you think he isn't? Why do you think he's going against the World Government?

I never said I didn't think he was. I just found it awkward for you to state something as if it was fact without the slightest backup evidence.

 

[Dino]

I never said I didn't think he was. I just found it awkward for you to state something as if it was fact without the slightest backup evidence.

Oh, alright.