[Discussion] Sabo and Zoro vs Doflamingo and Vergo

[jiraiya lives]

They were not LS, the fastest person in the verse is LS. Do you think Thriller Bark Zoro could react to Kizaru? Do you also think Haku was LS?

Oda words>Your opinion

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Oda words>Your opinion

Im pretty sure Oda was exaggerating.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Zoro hasn't shown the capabilities of cutting Vergo's Koka, and Doflamingo and Sabo are neck and neck IMO. Team two wins high diff.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He can't even defeat Sabo, let alone soloing. He shits his pants at admiral/yonkou level strength that Sabo can fight

Sabo was straining and wounded against Fujitora who wasn't even going all out.

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[-Akuma-]

Oda words>Your opinion

What Macho said, because I'm pretty sure Drake was superior to Thirller bark Zoro and look what happened to him. If that was the case aswell then Kizaru would be nothing special.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What has Sabo shown that places him > doflamingo ?

The feats Doffy is showing handling law and a gear 2 luffy at once mixed with his hype and speed/strength feats to me (for now) puts him > Sabo

All Sabo has done is get toyed with by an admiral someone who doffy briefly clashed with....

Sabo has not shown any feats to put him > doffy let alone in a whole another tier than doffy.

Hey wait a minute weren't you the same guy that said Law can push Sabo to extreme diff?

 

[Cigbeast]

I feel like Sabo could easily finish Vergo, but against either i cant see Zoro doing anything usefull. Later team high/extreme diff

 

[A v i]

What Macho said, because I'm pretty sure Drake was superior to Thirller bark Zoro and look what happened to him. If that was the case aswell then Kizaru would be nothing special.

Totally baseless assumption.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Totally baseless assumption.

I mean X Drake was able to launch a Pacifista through a wall all on his own, and the Strawhats needed multiple hits from multiple members to even phase a Pacifista.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I mean X Drake was able to launch a Pacifista through a wall all on his own, and the Strawhats needed multiple hits from multiple members to even phase a Pacifista.

Franky launched a Pacifista back too. Franky>Zoro confirmed.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Doflamingo and Vergo take this imo

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

No i didn't say law would push Sabo to extreme diff
... Ifk where u got tht from also the button for post with quote is being retarted....

All I'm saying is idk why Sabo is ranked so high let alone him soloing Doffy .....?


Also Doffy is currently mid diffing (I said currently due to luffy being main character he will somehow make it out of this alive...)
both law and gear 2 Luffy by himself which isn't something sabo with current feats can b able to do so why wouldn't he b able to mid diff sabo?

 

[Red Swag]

why would sabo mid diff or defeat mingo? what has he done? is it bcuz hes the 2nd in command of that fukn army again?

mingo is handling luffy and law at the same time with no problem. can sabo do that?

 

[Bobby Brown]

The former high diff.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

No i didn't say law would push Sabo to extreme diff
... Ifk where u got tht from also the button for post with quote is being retarted....

All I'm saying is idk why Sabo is ranked so high let alone him soloing Doffy .....?


Also Doffy is currently mid diffing (I said currently due to luffy being main character he will somehow make it out of this alive...)
both law and gear 2 Luffy by himself which isn't something sabo with current feats can b able to do so why wouldn't he b able to mid diff sabo?

It was in a thread where Sabo takes the Shichibukai gauntlet. Law was the 2nd person in the gauntlet while Buggy was first, and you said He extreme diffs Law and stops at Hancock. So unless you actually think Buggy could do anything to Sabo, you pretty much said Sabo beats Law extreme diff.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

why would sabo mid diff or defeat mingo? what has he done? is it bcuz hes the 2nd in command of that fukn army again?

mingo is handling luffy and law at the same time with no problem. can sabo do that?

Who said Sabo could mid diff Doffy?

 

[ultraChalk]

Zoro's armors Haki is higher than Luffy's

y-you don't... really believe that, d-do you?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Franky launched a Pacifista back too. Franky>Zoro confirmed.

That actually has more to do with physiology than strength. Due to having cybernetic enhancements, Franky can release all of his energy at once into one attack, while Zoro cannot, as human beings aren't designed to do such a thing, even by fictional standards, because doing so is impractical(right after, Franky's hit didn't do anything to the Pacifista). If Zoro was capable of releasing all of his energy into one attack like Franky could with Coup de Vent, he could have launched it back and done more damage than Franky.

It's more impressive for X Drake because he and Zoro have similar statures and follow the same physiology rules.

It was in a thread where Sabo takes the Shichibukai gauntlet. Law was the 2nd person in the gauntlet while Buggy was first, and you said He extreme diffs Law and stops at Hancock. So unless you actually think Buggy could do anything to Sabo, you pretty much said Sabo beats Law extreme diff.

That's some pretty bad logic.

 

[Zorø]

That actually has more to do with physiology than strength. Due to having cybernetic enhancements, Franky can release all of his energy at once into one attack, while Zoro cannot, as human beings aren't designed to do such a thing, even by fictional standards, because doing so is impractical(right after, Franky's hit didn't do anything to the Pacifista). If Zoro was capable of releasing all of his energy into one attack like Franky could with Coup de Vent, he could have launched it back and done more damage than Franky.

It's more impressive for X Drake because he and Zoro have similar statures and follow the same physiology rules.



That's some pretty bad logic.

But the thing is One Piece Logic doesnt apply to real life logic e.g when luffy was able to set his arm on fire underwater where there was no Oxygen. See where am getting at?

 

[Punk Hazard]

But the thing is One Piece Logic doesnt apply to real life logic e.g when luffy was able to set his arm on fire underwater where there was no Oxygen. See where am getting at?

Bending logic doesn't mean no longer having any logic.
Things like people needing blood transfusions of their own type.
Needing air to breathe
Gravity
Light
Rubber having immunity to electricity
Needing food or they starve to death
Water pressure being greater the further down you go

There are many instances of real life logic applying to One Piece. You're either smart enough to pinpoint moments when real life logic can apply and moments when they don't, or you're dumb enough to either say real life logic never applies or always applies.

By the way, there is oxygen underwater, what do you think fish breathe?