S.A = The Fastest Projectile From Sasuke, Amaterasu Is Not Instant.

[gordo1]

I thought that sasuke's Kirin was the fastest

I thought so too. I guess Susanoo is faster than the speed of light?

 

[svladcjelli42]

Either someone, somewhere in the manga, has used the word "instant" to describe Amaterasu (which I cannot find) or if not, it's not instant. Either Kishi explicitly says it's instant or it isn't. My impression is that Amaterasu "appears" at the target, rather than travels, but apparently not instantaneously. By definition, an attack which can be dodged at all is not instantaneous.

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Originally Posted by Mangekyo Master
I thought that sasuke's Kirin was the fastest
I thought so too. I guess Susanoo is faster than the speed of light?

Lightning moves much slower than the speed of light. The top possible speed of lightning is about 87,000 miles per second, a little under half the speed of light. Still very fast obviously.

 

[Shindo]

Didn't you just make a thread about this like two days ago?
Amaterasu is instant wherever a Magekyou/Eternal MS Sharingan is focusing.
Sasuke's Susano'o Arrow is comparable to Ama's speed except Amaterasu needs prep time to focus on the spot.​

 

[Maunten]

I thought so too. I guess Susanoo is faster than the speed of light?

Kirin is not from Sasuke it is from the sky, he pulls it down.

Also if it was not clear that I was talking about EMS techs I apologies.

what floriglori said is true you uchiha hater slash nagato fanboy.

the SFX kanji are sound effects which illustrating movements and other voices. and if the sound effect says that something is "appearing" it illustrates how amaterasu works. it appears at this point and isnt traveling because otherwise the sound description would say approaching or moving. so stfu :flaw:.

Maybe chillax, it was not just dash lines that were used to display it's characteristics as a projectile.

 

[Ndias17]

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Here we go again. Are you aware that Kishimoto showed us the moment when Amaterasu appeared before A in slow motion? Amaterasu appears rightly before its target, but A managed to escape from Sasukes sight before the flame has unfold itself. You got the wrong idea from Amaterasu. Amaterasu appears wherever the Sharingan is aiming for.

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Do you see Amaterasu traveling here? No, the flame appears rightly before A but since he is able to escape from the Sharingans sight, the flame can't unfold in time. And since Kishimoto showed us this moment in very slow motion, you can consider how fast Amaterasu is in the normal case. It's called instant my friend.



You always try to downplay the Sharingan, whether through the Byakugan or now with Amaterasu. You however failed.

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i agree, amaterasu isnt a projectile it appears wherever the user is focusing, as the picture above shows in the quote the amaterasu didnt travel towards him, it materialized almost on him, he was justtoo fast and was able to dodge it before it fully materialized.

also in my picture it shows itachis amaterasu materializing as it follows sasuke, sasukes pretty fast soas itachi followed him with his eyes the amaterasu materialized into a wall as it caught up with sauke.

it is not a projectile it materializes at the focus point of the users vision. Sasukes fastest projectile,whileit depends on the circumstances of the weather to determine how fast sasuke can cast the jutsu, is kirin its the speed of lightning thats pretty darn fast

 

[Rhyme Asylum]

I thought that sasuke's Kirin was the fastest

It its speed is equal to lighti don't how the **** Itachi was able to summon sussano

 

[Ndias17]

It its speed is equal to lighti don't how the **** Itachi was able to summon sussano

he already had it prepared because he said that if it wasnt for this id be dead right now, at that moment we got our first glimpse of susanooa s it started to encase itachi

 

[Ndias17]

for the people who are saying that susanoo is faster than the speed of light sorry guys thats wrong, i mean if it was people wouldnt b dissing on sasuke as a weakling and saying that naruto would smash on him, cause bm naruto is fast but not speed of light fast that would give sasuke an instant kill against naruto, so no i believe that susanoo arrow is pretty fast but not that fast.

for the sasuke fanboys out there,yes ima huge sasuke fan to but im just being realistic

 

[gameove]

I thought that sasuke's Kirin was the fastest

it is

 

[svladcjelli42]

At the risk of repeating myself, Kirin does not travel at the speed of light. It travels at the comparatively much slower speed of lightning. The speed of lightning under real atmospheric conditions varies from 112,000 miles per hour to 9,000,000 miles per hour - way less than 670,616,629 miles per hour, the speed of light.

 

[BloodSeed]

What I am saying is not baseless look...

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The very first time we see susanoo arrow, a reference to it's speed is made.

I therefore except that susanoo is an extremely fast projectile, I am not trolling anyone here (right now, maybe in other threads lol).

I am not fanboying or hating, I now Sasuke is very strong.

Second time

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Look at the shock on his face, read his words... He did not expect Kabuto to dodge it, because of the speed of the arrow.


It's one thing for Sasuke using the arrow as opposed to Amaterasu being plot no jutsu, but the 2 out of 3 times Susanoo arrow as been used a reference to it's speed was made.

The reference made about Amaterasu is it's ability to burn relentlessly.

All I'm doing here is presenting the facts, and I get called a troll, too random, if you don't want to see this truth then don't view the thread.

Amamterasu Is A Projectile​

Alright in this picture the dash lines are shown, the flames also take spherical fireball form, then the left hand of the panel shows the black flames engulfing Sasukes flames.

They have changed form after hitting Sasuke's Flames.

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Please take a look at the left hand side of the panel. This shows the black flames stage by stage approaching the Hachibi via the zooming in affect.

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It is not stated in the Data book that Amatereasu is instant.

One More Time "The Raikage"​

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Please Divert Your Attention To The Right Panel Of The Scan, The Flames Are Approaching Him, And On The Left Side He Moves Out Of The Way Before They Land. They Are Not Summoned To Him, They Move Towards Him.


Sasuke Could Take Out Hashirama If He Could Summon Flames That Are As Hot As The Sun And That Burn Forever, Directly too Hahsirama, They Are Projectiles

The Clincher?

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The Flames Continue on their trajectory resulting in the samurai being hit.

Now there is a Shinobi there saying "Amaterasu The Technique That Ignites Flames Wherever The User Looks".

Some will say there you go the manga says it.

Well if you do this I will attack that point in three ways.

1. I have shown you actually feats that go against Amaterasu instantly hitting, yet because of what one Shinobi says the feats are no longer relevant??

Zetsu a creature who anyone would expect has more knowledge on the Uchiha, statest that they Converge At The Focal Point Of The User.

2.How much does this Shinobi actually know about a rare tech like Amaterasu??

3. "Ignites Flames Wherever The User Looks At", well when I look out of my window, what am I looking at, the person on the street? Or at my window and the person on the street.

When I look at someone am I looking at the many specs of dust in the air, or am I looking at the person? Ever heard of the term looking through someone?

What is going on here is that Kishi has given us two description that may seem to contradict each other but both can actually work to fully describe Amaterasu.


Amaterasu creates Black flames from the users eyes (Ignite Ignites Flames Wherever The User Looks) At those flames move towards the target (Converges At The Focal Point Of The User).

Amaterasu Description

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What is mentioned here? It's ability to burn well, and burn for a long.

Not it's speed.

The first description line

"The ones reflected in these eyes turn to ash!! A black world-destroying conflagration that scorches all on heaven and earth!!"


Is metaphorical, it speaks of the Jutsu as it would of a legendary phenomenon, it does not burn all on heaven and earth, it does not burn a fire sealing scroll, it does not burn chakra wires, it does not burn Gaara's sand.

It was not just the Raikage that was reflected in Sasukes eyes but a vast area behind him, the half the room should have been set a light.

So you can see that, the realistic descriptions should be taken, not the exaggerated ones, I know I know Kishi wrote the Data book, but we talk about the manga and the manga does not show burning everything on heaven and earth.

The first lines of the descriptions are often emotive language, they speak of the Jutsu as you would tell a story to your comrades, inspiring fear or awe.

For The Record I Don't Hate Sasuke, He Is Fictional, I Am Aware That His Character Is Strong, I Just Want To Clear Some Things Up About Him.​

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but these uchiha fanboys thinks its the fastest attack that no one can evade only A. but they fail to realize that if AMATERASU was INSTANT why in the hell Sasuke used AMATERASU ARROWS that by logic it look like sasuke needed to used his bow to make his AMATERASU to moves fast. :shrug:

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LOOK AT RAIKAGES EYES IN THE RIGHT PANEL ITS SEEMS LIKE HE DONT GIVE A **** HE SEEMS BORED DOES THE AMATERASU TO HIM LOOKS SLOW???? :rofl:

 

[BloodSeed]

Fair enough, but Amaterasu is not a projectile. It materializes wherever the user looks so, how can it be a projectile? It does not travel.

since you claim you have logic answer this

which is faster?
amaterasu arrow or a normal amaterasu? :rofl:

 

[Vexorian]

Fair enough, but Amaterasu is not a projectile. It materializes wherever the user looks so, how can it be a projectile? It does not travel.

It does travel, as seen when A dodged it. He materializes it then uses it as a projectile. Not unlike the arrow, which he also has to materialize and shoot.

 

[sage1999]

Interesting, it seems NB has ushered into an age where we debate about... Amaterasu... xd

lol

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

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but these uchiha fanboys thinks its the fastest attack that no one can evade only A. but they fail to realize that if AMATERASU was INSTANT why in the hell Sasuke used AMATERASU ARROWS that by logic it look like sasuke needed to used his bow to make his AMATERASU to moves fast. :shrug:

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LOOK AT RAIKAGES EYES IN THE RIGHT PANEL ITS SEEMS LIKE HE DONT GIVE A **** HE SEEMS BORED DOES THE AMATERASU TO HIM LOOKS SLOW???? :rofl:

Amaterasu materializes at the point of focus for the eye and then continues with the focus of the eye.

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If it was a projectile sent from the eye then you would see the stream coming from Sasuke.

When it was used on Bee , the spiral leading up until Bee is hit is a common association with ST jutsu. Ama is summoned to the point of focus. There is a reason that Kishi has never drawn it as a projectile.

Oh yea and we haven't seen an actual Ama arrow fired. Firing an arrow from Susanoo probably uses less chakra and puts less stress on the eyes.

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

to much to read lol im looking for a thread to FLAME

 

[BloodSeed]

Amaterasu materializes at the point of focus for the eye and then continues with the focus of the eye.

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If it was a projectile sent from the eye then you would see the stream coming from Sasuke.

When it was used on Bee , the spiral leading up until Bee is hit is a common association with ST jutsu. Ama is summoned to the point of focus. There is a reason that Kishi has never drawn it as a projectile.

Oh yea and we haven't seen an actual Ama arrow fired. Firing an arrow from Susanoo probably uses less chakra and puts less stress on the eyes.

lol summoning susano is more stressful than having amaterasu.

and the hell if that amaterasu is an instant i dont know why he would make amaterasu arrows which travels that make it more slower :rofl:

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

lol summoning susano is more stressful than having amaterasu.

and the hell if that amaterasu is an instant i dont know why he would make amaterasu arrows which travels that make it more slower :rofl:

Using Ama while having Susanoo up is very stressful. It is less stress to use Susanoo arrow while Susanoo is up instead of using Ama while Susanoo is up.

Show me a Susanoo arrow being fired. When Sasuke killed the original white zetsu it was a Susanoo sword covered in Ama.

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

That was Enton, not Amaterasu.

It was amaterasu not enton, why do people not acknowledge Gaara's feat?

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Look, sasuke closes his amaterasu eye in preparation

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And know look at blood dripping from the eye which is a sign of amaterasu, if you cannot see it, look at the SFX near his eye and look at the concentration (concentration not for susano)

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Edit: This proves Gaara blocked amaterasu not enton.