[Spoilers] Rukia vs Toshiro?

[kotoamatsukami]

plz stop saying its weather vs temperature lol its a ICE/WATER type that affects the weather and a ICE type that affects the temperature lol they say it so many times throughout the show and manga XD there is no weather type zanpakuto

She does not work with ice or water she works with temperature all that before stuff that was stated about her zanpacto was false info now that she knows her zanpacto true power thanks to the royal guard training.

 

[ShiroT]

Sorry by took out I meant defeated him but not killed him....by that I meant y'all saying he has the strongest ice type like he is comparable to Yama or something like he would just waste rukia when it's clear he still has long ways to go before he is considered one of the stronger captians.

Yea but not only did she make her zanpacto stronger her physical feats increased aswell..he survived due to vollstanding...an no he would not do better than asnodt an him hitting rukia with ice would mean nothing seeing as she can survive absolute zero degrees her speed will also out do his aswell making it even tougher for hitsugiya.

didnt mean attack her with ice i meant stab her lol as people are saying her shikai > his bankai, which i say is bs as vodt survived her shikai someone who is more experienced with ice and cold temperature, presumably stronger than vodt, and who has a natural resistance to col temperatures would fight better under these conditions and if he was to hit rukia(with his blade not ice) this could result in her messing up and killing herself

 

[Forbidden Tale]

didnt mean attack her with ice i meant stab her lol as people are saying her shikai > his bankai, which i say is bs as vodt survived her shikai someone who is more experienced with ice and cold temperature, presumably stronger than vodt, and who has a natural resistance to col temperatures would fight better under these conditions and if he was to hit rukia(with his blade not ice) this could result in her messing up and killing herself

As Nodt have Blut Vene, his defense is better than Shinigamis.

 

[ShiroT]

As Nodt have Blut Vene, his defense is better than Shinigamis.

he didnt use it

 

[Forbidden Tale]

he didnt use it

How do you know that?

 

[ShiroT]

How do you know that?

no veins the technique shows veins, none before being frozen or after, didnt say blut vene either

 

[Forbidden Tale]

You can't see them when 95% of his body is covered by clothes.
Also you don't see Royd with veins, but he used blut vene.

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[SoulKiller]

rukia bankai > toshiro

and yamamoto > aizen anyday lol

 

[kotoamatsukami]

no veins the technique shows veins, none before being frozen or after, didnt say blut vene either

Didn't asnodt shoulder wound heal once he went vollstanding?

 

[Kenshin the god of war]

Of course she can go bankai when ever she wants so she will have no problem going to it ..an no she wins.

Wat gas gets colder than absolute zero? An he works with ice not gas...

An rukia bankai most likely puts out temperature of absolute zero at a very fast rate seeing as how she also had to cool down the same way as when she was in shikai.

You asked what is colder than absolute zero and i told you, quantum gas. Well i left out the quantum part, type to fast sometimes.
And i know her bankai isn's gas related, and once again you can't say how many times she can go bankai, that hasn't been determined yet, but just because she learns bankai doesn't make her captain level. But then again that too hasn't been determined.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

You asked what is colder than absolute zero and i told you, quantum gas. Well i left out the quantum part, type to fast sometimes.
And i know her bankai isn's gas related, and once again you can't say how many times she can go bankai, that hasn't been determined yet, but just because she learns bankai doesn't make her captain level. But then again that too hasn't been determined.

Agree that bankai don't make you captain level, but Rukia is, she was able to beat As Nodt, who fodderized Byakuya in first invasion and again Byakuya (pre RG) was mid captain level.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You asked what is colder than absolute zero and i told you, quantum gas. Well i left out the quantum part, type to fast sometimes.
And i know her bankai isn's gas related, and once again you can't say how many times she can go bankai, that hasn't been determined yet, but just because she learns bankai doesn't make her captain level. But then again that too hasn't been determined.

Yea an hitsugiya does not work with gas so she don't need to worry..she can only go bankai once? But it will be very easy to activate it just say bankai...an when you learn bankai you are captain level...an seeing as how Byakuya comment about her power it is very strong.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Agree that bankai don't make you captain level, but Rukia is, she was able to beat As Nodt, who fodderized Byakuya in first invasion and again Byakuya (pre RG) was mid captain level.

Naw Byakuya was beat by his own power not asnodt's...just saying

 

[TheHokage]

I'm sorry but as of this moment until Toshiro shows some new feats Rukia stomps him with her Shikai.

 

[Kenshin the god of war]

Agree that bankai don't make you captain level, but Rukia is, she was able to beat As Nodt, who fodderized Byakuya in first invasion and again Byakuya (pre RG) was mid captain level.

It may be true that she beat someone that byakuya couldn't, but that doesn't mean she can toshiro, or any captain. Just cause someone loses doesn't mean their're weak, and beneath the person who won against that opponent.

Here let me explain, ok ice beats water by freezing, fire destroys ice, but just because water lost to ice doesn't mean, fire can beat water. It just shows the one may have your weakness. But everyone else don't. So rukia

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Naw Byakuya was beat by his own power not asnodt's...just saying

He was pretty messed up, when As Nodt affected him with his fear, so i don't see reason not to believe that As Nodt without bankai wouldn't beat Byakuya. Also As Nodt didn't use Vollstandig in that fight.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

It may be true that she beat someone that byakuya couldn't, but that doesn't mean she can toshiro, or any captain. Just cause someone loses doesn't mean their're weak, and beneath the person who won against that opponent.

Here let me explain, ok ice beats water by freezing, fire destroys ice, but just because water lost to ice doesn't mean, fire can beat water. It just shows the one may have your weakness. But everyone else don't. So rukia

I wanted to say that Rukia is captain level. If she was able to beat (fodderize) person who was able to beat (fodderize) captain level shinigami (and not low captain level, but mid captain level) she is pretty much captain level character.

 

[Kenshin the god of war]

Yea an hitsugiya does not work with gas so she don't need to worry..she can only go bankai once? But it will be very easy to activate it just say bankai...an when you learn bankai you are captain level...an seeing as how Byakuya comment about her power it is very strong.

My point exactly he said she was strong, but never quoted stronger than him or anyone else. She just improved over the training. And no learning bankai does not make you captain level. Look at renji, when he first learned bankai was he captain level? Of course not, he got beat pretty bad by almost everyone. ikaku learned bankai is he captain level? No where close. When

When ichigo learned bankai and fought byakuya, he would have lost if not for his hollow side, when it came to whose bankai is stronger. At the time byakuya' was stronger, and this is ichigo i'm talking about. So bankai doesn't mean captain level.

 

[Kenshin the god of war]

I wanted to say that Rukia is captain level. If she was able to beat (fodderize) person who was able to beat (fodderize) captain level shinigami (and not low captain level, but mid captain level) she is pretty much captain level character.

I understand where you're coming from with her power scale, but i never said she wasn't near captain level, But simply stating that she isn't captain level. (until manga say otherwise)

And the manga is still going on so we're most likely to see more of rukia, and her new bankai. And what it can actually do.

 

[ShiroT]

I wanted to say that Rukia is captain level. If she was able to beat (fodderize) person who was able to beat (fodderize) captain level shinigami (and not low captain level, but mid captain level) she is pretty much captain level character.

also forgetting that the opponent couldnt use their ability like it would in any other fight so vodt was at a disadvantage