My thoughts preciselyHashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar. Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama. Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama. BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.
S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.
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Naruto would beat Madara easily. Better defense and mor firepower by far. The outcome against Hashirama depends on whether or not all his Gudo Dana together can create an explosion strong enough to block or overpower Chojo. Naruto has 9 gudo dama at his peak so he should be able to overpower it or at the very least soften the blow so he can survive the first wave and end it the second wave.My thoughts precisely
What about them individually against naruto in S1
What do you mean by a TSB explosion?Naruto would beat Madara easily. Better defense and mor firepower by far. The outcome against Hashirama depends on whether or not all his Gudo Dana together can create an explosion strong enough to block or overpower Chojo. Naruto has 9 gudo dama at his peak so he should be able to overpower it or at the very least soften the blow so he can survive the first wave and end it the second wave.
Naruto beats Madara low-mid diff. Beats Hashirama mid diff. Mid-high at the highest but likely mid diff.
Nope juubi is weak and those gates are not catching Naruto period. Juubito mindless no soled them gates without any effort at all Naruto and Kurama >>>> Juubito even if you can argue that he's not stronger than Juubito (lol) Its not by that big of a difference.Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar.
Based off Hashirama's statements? Umm no even if he could he still would not redirected far enough where he would survive the blast Aoe. Naruto's BDFRS explode on command so moot.Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama.
Yes he does. BDFRS turns SS to dust. PS is vaporized and Kuramam is K.Oed. Ypu said plus like they can combined attacks lol.Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama
Sound bout dumb af. Naruto implied BDFRS would kill Sasuke meaning his susanoo would be destroyed. Sasuke susanoo defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything those two can do defensively. Furthermore his BDFRS vaporized Chibaku tensei's that dwarf SS 6 BDFRS vaporizes them Kurama's Bijuu damas would not even be close to a factor as Gyuki BDs just got sucked into Juubi's.BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.
Gates gets snapped like twigs Kurama's rapes.S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.
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-Based on nothing does Naruto in his avatar evade them.Nope juubi is weak and those gates are not catching Naruto period. Juubito mindless no soled them gates without any effort at all Naruto and Kurama >>>> Juubito even if you can argue that he's not stronger than Juubito (lol) Its not by that big of a difference.
If he couldn't deflect them to the point where they could survive there would be no point in him saying he could do it. Lmao use your brain. Naruto's BDFRS have never shown to explode on command either.Based off Hashirama's statements? Umm no even if he could he still would not redirected far enough where he would survive the blast Aoe. Naruto's BDFRS explode on command so moot.
Based on nothing.Yes he does. BDFRS turns SS to dust. PS is vaporized and Kuramam is K.Oed. Ypu said plus like they can combined attacks lol.
Naruto didn't want to hit him. He never said a thing about it being strong enough to destroy Susanoo and kill Sasuke. Don't use the same shitty logic that Narutards use against Sasuke to defend Naruto here when in any other thread you'd be singing a different song. CT being bigger than SS doesn't say anything about durability. Nagato's CT is larger than PS yet KN8 ripped through it with it's bare hands.Sound bout dumb af. Naruto implied BDFRS would kill Sasuke meaning his susanoo would be destroyed. Sasuke susanoo defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything those two can do defensively. Furthermore his BDFRS vaporized Chibaku tensei's that dwarf SS 6 BDFRS vaporizes them Kurama's Bijuu damas would not even be close to a factor as Gyuki BDs just got sucked into Juubi's.
Quit arguing boy your wrong just accept that Naruto stomps these clown in both scenes his fire power shits on SS and PS Kurama fusion end of discussion. Also please tell me how they survive the 9BDFRS? They can't match it in powers that's a fact...........
I'm wrong yet no one can produce an argument that doesn't sound stupid. :lol Its always the same posters.Quit arguing boy your wrong just accept that Naruto stomps these clown in both scenes his fire power shits on SS and PS Kurama fusion end of discussion. Also please tell me how they survive the 9BDFRS? They can't match it in powers that's a fact.
1. You do realise that 1 BDFRS explosion dwarfs entire vote explosion created by PS + Full Kurama + Shinsuusenju.Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar. Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama. Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama. BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.
S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.
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No, it doesn't. Not even close. They are barely twice as large as rocks the size of the Shinju's root, which is as wide as a few Mountains. Any claim saying that one dwarfs that explosion is a claim based on nothing but an extremely poor attempt to scale size, which is all too common around here.1. You do realise that 1 BDFRS explosion dwarfs entire vote explosion created by PS + Full Kurama + Shinsuusenju.
2. You do realise that Naruto can actually create 9 of them considering he has 9 TSB to serve as core for BDFRS.
Barely twice as large lol it's literraly about 4x large[No, it doesn't. Not even close. They are barely twice as large as rocks the size of the Shinju's root, which is as wide as a few Mountains. Any claim saying that one dwarfs that explosion is a claim based on nothing but an extremely poor attempt to scale size, which is all too common around here.
9BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower vote Madara and Hashirama? WHATTT? Madara and Hashirama vote explosion is only this size[Irrelevant. 9 BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower Madara and Hashirama's attacks together. So one of them will get through and kill Naruto. Naruto has no defense for any of their attacks anyway so he'd probably even end up killing himself in the crossfire. His only defense is his Avatar and that gets pinned by Myojinmon so using it only leaves himself wide open. Not to mention Hashirama has Mokuton and Rashomon to redirect them. Madara has his own Bijuu Dama to deflect them just how Naruto did to the Bijuus BD.
Lmao impossible without clones. If he tries to do that himself then he gets killed in a matter of seconds.Also one more thing Naruto can still collect nature energy as well he'd just put it inside himself instead of his avatar which would mean his attack potency would soar through the roof.
No, they aren't. Not even close. You obviously can't do that with the moon you imbecile because the Moon is in space, thus the size is piomisrepresented. The meteors and the Shinju are in the same exact area and they are shown to rival each other in size in multiple scans. Like I said just use your brain lmao. The rocks are the size of the trunk. The explosion is around 2x bigger than the meteor. These are facts shown in the scans. Quit debating fact.Barely twice as large lol it's literraly about 4x large[You must be registered for see links]. Especially if we compare the TSB Bijuudama to the Trunk of the God tree. Based on what? There is no real comparison between them and the Shinju trunk. There is only a red line that's about the same size in measuring both objects. I can do the same with the moon and Say the Moon is only as big as 3 of Madara CT's based on this redline
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This is proof that marking something in a red is nonsense and proves absolutely nothing.
But this is actual manga proof that chunks of Madara Chibaku Tensei are just a big as mountain ranges[You must be registered for see links]. This is how SS would look to his CT debris[You must be registered for see links].
:lol All you do is make claims and you don't support them. The AoE of his BD being as large as the Shinju and it's roots proves nothing because the AoE of SS and PS Kurama's clash dwarfs that. The Shinju + it's roots is only as long as a few Mountains. That explosion at VoTe dwarfs a statue that dwarfs a Mountain Range. Do the math. Lmao you'd have to be a special kind of dumb to think 1 BDFRS eexplosion is larger than the VoTE explosion let alone far larger.9BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower vote Madara and Hashirama? WHATTT? Madara and Hashirama vote explosion is only this size[You must be registered for see links]. That is no where near as big a 1 TSB Bijuudamam let alone 9[You must be registered for see links].
Naruto's nine TSB Bijuudama's complerely covers this entire area where the God tree is[You must be registered for see links]. Do you see how big that circle is? Naruto TSB covered that entire aoe. Let's see how small the Juubi is compared to that same circle[You must be registered for see links]. The Juubi is barely even visible bruh. Let's be real here Naruto shit stomps these boys.