RSM naruto vs vote madara and hashirmaa

[ARGUS]

Location. Vote
Intel: full
Mindset: ic
Restrictions: avatar clones and ashura avatar
Starting distance; 100m

Who wins?

Scenario 2: avatar clones are unrestricted

 

[Unorthodox]

Naruto stomps BDFRS clears them up.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar. Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama. Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama. BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.

S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.


Inb4 Naruto wankers

 

[ARGUS]

Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar. Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama. Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama. BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.

S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.


Inb4 Naruto wankers

My thoughts precisely
What about them individually against naruto in S1

 

[KidGamer65]

My thoughts precisely
What about them individually against naruto in S1

Naruto would beat Madara easily. Better defense and mor firepower by far. The outcome against Hashirama depends on whether or not all his Gudo Dana together can create an explosion strong enough to block or overpower Chojo. Naruto has 9 gudo dama at his peak so he should be able to overpower it or at the very least soften the blow so he can survive the first wave and end it the second wave.

Naruto beats Madara low-mid diff. Beats Hashirama mid diff. Mid-high at the highest but likely mid diff.

 

[Oblivionx]

Naruto might lose scenario 1 but wins 2 no questions. Those two may have immense power but speed is also as much a factor as power in battle. In fact speed is more of a factor as seen throughout the manga. We never see anyone saying damn he has so much more power than me. We usually see shinobi complementing each other on speed. There is no reason or feats shown by either madara or hashirama which suggest they can even touch RSM naruto. But giving them the benefit of the doubt they might be able to overwhelm him although he can fly so that makes half of their arsenal useless. Scenario 2 he wins definitely.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto would beat Madara easily. Better defense and mor firepower by far. The outcome against Hashirama depends on whether or not all his Gudo Dana together can create an explosion strong enough to block or overpower Chojo. Naruto has 9 gudo dama at his peak so he should be able to overpower it or at the very least soften the blow so he can survive the first wave and end it the second wave.

Naruto beats Madara low-mid diff. Beats Hashirama mid diff. Mid-high at the highest but likely mid diff.

What do you mean by a TSB explosion?
Against Hashirama, I feel that S1 might be more than mid diff

-- myojinmon can still bind his avatar, and the only way he can get out is by undoing his avatar which exposes him to Chojo. Shooting TBB or BDRS would be interrupted by myojinmon or the mokuryu that is wrapped around SS too. Giving Chojo an opening

-- 9 TSB defense may not tank Chojo either. If one BSM TBB can crack the shield of 1
TSB. and Chojo can match 12 Ps-TBB with each TBB being larger and thus stronger than bsm narutos, then repeated punches would obliterate the shield and then him along with it

Of course naruto can overpower SS with is BDRS barrage but if hashirmaa can stop its prep or pin him down then naruto may lose

 

[Prometheus 2000]

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Naruto destroys them based on powerscaling, statements, and feats.

People with the "body of the Sage of Six Paths" are strong enough to easily no sell Hashirama's Gates which can easily pin down the Jubi. Naruto's no different from Obito in this aspect which means that nothing Hashirama's capable of doing will bother him, especially since he himself admitted inferiority to Obito despite his own power. And if people think Jinchuriki Obito >>>RSM Naruto to the point where he's not scalable to him, you're completely disregarding Naruto's feats, which is much better than what Obito showed given he could clash against and pressure Kaguya.

Madara has no chance here either given the above.

 

[KnightofDarkness]

The founders should win handily. Like in the other thread, w/o Ashura Avatar Myojinmon would be able to pin and bind Naruto's avatar and if he takes it off he gets pasted with PS slashes or Chojo Kebutsu. If he doesn't take it off, a combination of 12 PS Blade augmented TBBs + Chojo would destroy his avatar and kill him. Anything else is probably tanked or redirected with Rashomon (which redirected 100% Kyuubi's TBB) and/or Jukai Koutan which could divert the Juubi's TBB. Founders high diff.

Naruto would likely be able if he is facing them one on one however.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Naruto stomps in both scenes and it's not even debatable.

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This takes out SS neg diff. PS Kurama fusion gets one shotted by the 9bijuu Rasenshurikens he did against Kaguya.

Go ahead and try to argue explosion size cause you lose that as well. 1 TSB Bijuudama is twice the size of Madara's CT[

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[Warlocks]

Naruto stomps

 

[Unorthodox]

Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar.

Nope juubi is weak and those gates are not catching Naruto period. Juubito mindless no soled them gates without any effort at all Naruto and Kurama >>>> Juubito even if you can argue that he's not stronger than Juubito (lol) Its not by that big of a difference.

Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama.

Based off Hashirama's statements? Umm no even if he could he still would not redirected far enough where he would survive the blast Aoe. Naruto's BDFRS explode on command so moot.

Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama

Yes he does. BDFRS turns SS to dust. PS is vaporized and Kuramam is K.Oed. Ypu said plus like they can combined attacks lol.

BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.

Sound bout dumb af. Naruto implied BDFRS would kill Sasuke meaning his susanoo would be destroyed. Sasuke susanoo defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything those two can do defensively. Furthermore his BDFRS vaporized Chibaku tensei's that dwarf SS 6 BDFRS vaporizes them Kurama's Bijuu damas would not even be close to a factor as Gyuki BDs just got sucked into Juubi's.

S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.

Gates gets snapped like twigs Kurama's rapes.

Inb4 Naruto wankers

NB4 Thesage Logic.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope juubi is weak and those gates are not catching Naruto period. Juubito mindless no soled them gates without any effort at all Naruto and Kurama >>>> Juubito even if you can argue that he's not stronger than Juubito (lol) Its not by that big of a difference.

-Based on nothing does Naruto in his avatar evade them.
-Based on nothing is Naruto strong enough to break them.

Do you just like making stupid shit up and then expecting me to roll with it? By feats in physical strength Juubi Jins>>>>Naruto. Juubi>>>>>>Kurama regardless of RSM.

Based off Hashirama's statements? Umm no even if he could he still would not redirected far enough where he would survive the blast Aoe. Naruto's BDFRS explode on command so moot.

If he couldn't deflect them to the point where they could survive there would be no point in him saying he could do it. Lmao use your brain. Naruto's BDFRS have never shown to explode on command either.

Yes he does. BDFRS turns SS to dust. PS is vaporized and Kuramam is K.Oed. Ypu said plus like they can combined attacks lol.

Based on nothing.

Sound bout dumb af. Naruto implied BDFRS would kill Sasuke meaning his susanoo would be destroyed. Sasuke susanoo defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything those two can do defensively. Furthermore his BDFRS vaporized Chibaku tensei's that dwarf SS 6 BDFRS vaporizes them Kurama's Bijuu damas would not even be close to a factor as Gyuki BDs just got sucked into Juubi's.

Naruto didn't want to hit him. He never said a thing about it being strong enough to destroy Susanoo and kill Sasuke. Don't use the same shitty logic that Narutards use against Sasuke to defend Naruto here when in any other thread you'd be singing a different song. CT being bigger than SS doesn't say anything about durability. Nagato's CT is larger than PS yet KN8 ripped through it with it's bare hands.

-Naruto uses BDFRS.
-Madara and Hashirama launch their attacks.
-BDFRS is overpowered.
-Naruto dies.

That's all that happens.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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Quit arguing boy your wrong just accept that Naruto stomps these clown in both scenes his fire power shits on SS and PS Kurama fusion end of discussion. Also please tell me how they survive the 9BDFRS? They can't match it in powers that's a fact.

 

[KidGamer65]

Quit arguing boy your wrong just accept that Naruto stomps these clown in both scenes his fire power shits on SS and PS Kurama fusion end of discussion. Also please tell me how they survive the 9BDFRS? They can't match it in powers that's a fact.

I'm wrong yet no one can produce an argument that doesn't sound stupid. :lol Its always the same posters.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Hashirama and Madara shit in S1 and you'd have to be a moron to argue otherwise. Myojinmon can pin the Juubi. Juubi>>>>Naruto's Avatar. Hashirama can redirect the Juubidama. Naruto's Bijuu Dama are nothing compared to that. Naruto without his Avatar doesn't even have the firepower to overpower SS let alone SS+PS Kurama. BDFRS is his strongest tech without his Avatar and that isn't stronger than SS or PS Kurama's barrage alone let alone together.

S2 is more debatable, but the presence of Avatar clones doesn't matter when Hashirama can form and hold over 15 gates at once and Naruto has shown to make 3 clones. Each get pinned and the original is flattened. Naruto needs Ashura Avatar if he wants to take them both on at the same time.


Inb4 Naruto wankers

1. You do realise that 1 BDFRS explosion dwarfs entire vote explosion created by PS + Full Kurama + Shinsuusenju.

2. You do realise that Naruto can actually create 9 of them considering he has 9 TSB to serve as core for BDFRS.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. You do realise that 1 BDFRS explosion dwarfs entire vote explosion created by PS + Full Kurama + Shinsuusenju.

2. You do realise that Naruto can actually create 9 of them considering he has 9 TSB to serve as core for BDFRS.

No, it doesn't. Not even close. They are barely twice as large as rocks the size of the Shinju's root, which is as wide as a few Mountains. Any claim saying that one dwarfs that explosion is a claim based on nothing but an extremely poor attempt to scale size, which is all too common around here.

Irrelevant. 9 BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower Madara and Hashirama's attacks together. So one of them will get through and kill Naruto. Naruto has no defense for any of their attacks anyway so he'd probably even end up killing himself in the crossfire. His only defense is his Avatar and that gets pinned by Myojinmon so using it only leaves himself wide open. Not to mention Hashirama has Mokuton and Rashomon to redirect them. Madara has his own Bijuu Dama to deflect them just how Naruto did to the Bijuus BD.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No, it doesn't. Not even close. They are barely twice as large as rocks the size of the Shinju's root, which is as wide as a few Mountains. Any claim saying that one dwarfs that explosion is a claim based on nothing but an extremely poor attempt to scale size, which is all too common around here.

Barely twice as large lol it's literraly about 4x large[

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]. Especially if we compare the TSB Bijuudama to the Trunk of the God tree. Based on what? There is no real comparison between them and the Shinju trunk. There is only a red line that's about the same size in measuring both objects. I can do the same with the moon and Say the Moon is only as big as 3 of Madara CT's based on this redline

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This is proof that marking something in a red is nonsense and proves absolutely nothing.

But this is actual manga proof that chunks of Madara Chibaku Tensei are just a big as mountain ranges[

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Irrelevant. 9 BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower Madara and Hashirama's attacks together. So one of them will get through and kill Naruto. Naruto has no defense for any of their attacks anyway so he'd probably even end up killing himself in the crossfire. His only defense is his Avatar and that gets pinned by Myojinmon so using it only leaves himself wide open. Not to mention Hashirama has Mokuton and Rashomon to redirect them. Madara has his own Bijuu Dama to deflect them just how Naruto did to the Bijuus BD.

9BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower vote Madara and Hashirama? WHATTT? Madara and Hashirama vote explosion is only this size[

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]. That is no where near as big a 1 TSB Bijuudamam let alone 9[

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Naruto's nine TSB Bijuudama's complerely covers this entire area where the God tree is[

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]. Do you see how big that circle is? Naruto TSB covered that entire aoe. Let's see how small the Juubi is compared to that same circle[

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]. The Juubi is barely even visible bruh. Let's be real here Naruto shit stomps these boys.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Also one more thing Naruto can still collect nature energy as well he'd just put it inside himself instead of his avatar which would mean his attack potency would soar through the roof.

 

[KidGamer65]

Also one more thing Naruto can still collect nature energy as well he'd just put it inside himself instead of his avatar which would mean his attack potency would soar through the roof.

Lmao impossible without clones. If he tries to do that himself then he gets killed in a matter of seconds.

Barely twice as large lol it's literraly about 4x large[

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]. Especially if we compare the TSB Bijuudama to the Trunk of the God tree. Based on what? There is no real comparison between them and the Shinju trunk. There is only a red line that's about the same size in measuring both objects. I can do the same with the moon and Say the Moon is only as big as 3 of Madara CT's based on this redline

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This is proof that marking something in a red is nonsense and proves absolutely nothing.

But this is actual manga proof that chunks of Madara Chibaku Tensei are just a big as mountain ranges[

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]. This is how SS would look to his CT debris[

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No, they aren't. Not even close. You obviously can't do that with the moon you imbecile because the Moon is in space, thus the size is piomisrepresented. The meteors and the Shinju are in the same exact area and they are shown to rival each other in size in multiple scans. Like I said just use your brain lmao. The rocks are the size of the trunk. The explosion is around 2x bigger than the meteor. These are facts shown in the scans. Quit debating fact.

9BDFRS aren't strong enough to overpower vote Madara and Hashirama? WHATTT? Madara and Hashirama vote explosion is only this size[

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]. That is no where near as big a 1 TSB Bijuudamam let alone 9[

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Naruto's nine TSB Bijuudama's complerely covers this entire area where the God tree is[

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]. Do you see how big that circle is? Naruto TSB covered that entire aoe. Let's see how small the Juubi is compared to that same circle[

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]. The Juubi is barely even visible bruh. Let's be real here Naruto shit stomps these boys.

:lol All you do is make claims and you don't support them. The AoE of his BD being as large as the Shinju and it's roots proves nothing because the AoE of SS and PS Kurama's clash dwarfs that. The Shinju + it's roots is only as long as a few Mountains. That explosion at VoTe dwarfs a statue that dwarfs a Mountain Range. Do the math. Lmao you'd have to be a special kind of dumb to think 1 BDFRS eexplosion is larger than the VoTE explosion let alone far larger.