RSM Naruto vs. Adult Naruto??

[Lightbringer]

Does Adult Naruto still host the 9 bijuu and does he still have TSB?

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Well, Adult Naruto is rusty so he wins very high diff.

 

[LoZelda101]

Highly doubt hokage naruto has all of his RSM powers. Feat wise it's the only way sasuke can compete.

 

[DHOH]

Highly doubt hokage naruto has all of his RSM powers. Feat wise it's the only way sasuke can compete.

Even if Naruto is lacking TSB and all the bijuu chakra means nothing.. Rikoudo chakra and Karuma chakra cancel it out and makes up for the lost..

As for Sasuke, Naruto needs to be at his best to compete..

 

[LoZelda101]

Even if Naruto is lacking TSB and all the bijuu chakra means nothing.. Rikoudo chakra and Karuma chakra cancel it out and makes up for the lost..

As for Sasuke, Naruto needs to be at his best to compete..

You have it backwards. it's sasuke who needs to be at his best to compete with naruto. regardless if it's RSM or the weaker version.

 

[DHOH]

You have it backwards. it's sasuke who needs to be at his best to compete with naruto. regardless if it's RSM or the weaker version.

Movie proves you wrong... Assume was on par with RSM Naruto in every way.

 

[Kunihi]

Movie proves you wrong... Assume was on par with RSM Naruto in every way.

how does the movie prove him wrong?

 

[DHOH]

how does the movie prove him wrong?

Naruto was using RSM and Sasukevwas his equal in every way possible... And that's after taking several people through his portal.

 

[Kunihi]

Naruto was using RSM and Sasukevwas his equal in every way possible... And that's after taking several people through his portal.

By that logic, Naruto w/o Ashura avatar = Naruto w/ Ashura avatar since both use RSM. Naruto never used the ashura avatar in the movie, just like he never used it at VoTe 2 until Sasuke used his Bijuu PS so how is sasuke keeping up with a naruto who's holding back any evidence for equality when Naruto doesn't?

Next, how was Sasuke equal to Naruto in every possible way in the movie? From what I saw, someone got their butt kicked by momoshiki when they fought him 1 v 1, needed to get saved and healed, while the other guy could fight momoshiki 1 vs 1.

 

[lndra]

You vs yourself in 14 years.

Who wins?

 

[DHOH]

By that logic, Naruto w/o Ashura avatar = Naruto w/ Ashura avatar since both use RSM. Naruto never used the ashura avatar in the movie, just like he never used it at VoTe 2 until Sasuke used his Bijuu PS so how is sasuke keeping up with a naruto who's holding back any evidence for equality when Naruto doesn't?

Next, how was Sasuke equal to Naruto in every possible way in the movie? From what I saw, someone got their butt kicked by momoshiki when they fought him 1 v 1, needed to get saved and healed, while the other guy could fight momoshiki 1 vs 1.

Lol naruto with or without Ashura avatar is the same Naruto..

Lol. Sauke was burned by the the fusion Momoshiki and Naruto was capture by the normal Momoshiki.. So keep the bias to yourself.

 

[Kunihi]

Lol naruto with or without Ashura avatar is the same Naruto..

Right so you're saying that NAruto w/o Ashua avatar = Naruto w/ Ashura avatar.

Lol. Sauke was burned by the the fusion Momoshiki and Naruto was capture by the normal Momoshiki.. So keep the bias to yourself.

Naruto was only captured because he had to tank Momoshiki's attack, because if he didn't the village would be obliterated.
Sasuke got captured without the need to protect anyone.

Seems like you're the one who's bias since you try to compare character performances while ignoring a factor that makes the two instances incomparable.

 

[DHOH]

Right so you're saying that NAruto w/o Ashua avatar = Naruto w/ Ashura avatar.


Naruto was only captured because he had to tank Momoshiki's attack, because if he didn't the village would be obliterated.
Sasuke got captured without the need to protect anyone.

Seems like you're the one who's bias since you try to compare character performances while ignoring a factor that makes the two instances incomparable.

Lol I'm saying there's no such thing as RSM Naruto without ashura avatar.


There's always circumstances, excuses or assumptions to every case..

I don't remember Sasuke being captured..

 

[Kunihi]

Lol I'm saying there's no such thing as RSM Naruto without ashura avatar.

okay, so since you state Naruto had the ashura avatar, how can you claim that Sasuke is his equal if he's only fighting on par with a naruto who's not using it?

There's always circumstances, excuses or assumptions to every case..

sure? Doesn't mean all of them are equally as weighted. Some are insignificant some are completely game-changing. This one is gamechanging since one guy willingly tank the oppositions most powerful attack in order to protect the village while the other guy doesn't have to worry about any of that. One guy is trying to actually beat momoshiki, the other guy is trying to get him out of the village, therefore incomaprable.

I don't remember Sasuke being captured..

Sasuke didn't get captured because he got saved by naruto, saved from an attack that's pathetic compared to the attack that only knocked naruto out, while Sasuke not only got knocked out, but half his face burned.

So either way you spin it, Sasuke did not at all naruto's equal in every way possible.

 

[DHOH]

okay, so since you state Naruto had the ashura avatar, how can you claim that Sasuke is his equal if he's only fighting on par with a naruto who's not using it?


sure? Doesn't mean all of them are equally as weighted. Some are insignificant some are completely game-changing. This one is gamechanging since one guy willingly tank the oppositions most powerful attack in order to protect the village while the other guy doesn't have to worry about any of that. One guy is trying to actually beat momoshiki, the other guy is trying to get him out of the village, therefore incomaprable.


Sasuke didn't get captured because he got saved by naruto, saved from an attack that's pathetic compared to the attack that only knocked naruto out, while Sasuke not only got knocked out, but half his face burned.

So either way you spin it, Sasuke did not at all naruto's equal in every way possible.

You talk as if Sasuke went all out..

... One guy got capture by a weaker version..

Lol if you want to be technical about the situation.. Sasuke out perform Naruto in every aspect..
1. Sasuke showed better taijutsu feats.
2. Better speed
3. Better kenjutsu
4. Better or equal physical strength.
5. Better or equal durability
6. Better tactics and strategy...

You force me there..

 

[Kunihi]

You talk as if Sasuke went all out..

So you're claiming Sasuke didn't go all out? Based on what?
We know what naruto is at least capable of when he goes all out, Sasuke doesn't show an answer to that in this movie, we know sasuke needed the 9 bijuu in order to answer that in canon. What is sasuke's answer to that here?

... One guy got capture by a weaker version..

Which is irrelevant because of the reasons explained already. If you want to ignore those reasons, just tell me so I know that attempting to have a logical discussion with you is pointless.

Lol if you want to be technical about the situation.. Sasuke out perform Naruto in every aspect..
1. Sasuke showed better taijutsu feats.
2. Better speed
3. Better kenjutsu
4. Better or equal physical strength.
5. Better or equal durability
6. Better tactics and strategy...
You force me there..

NAruto showed better kenjutsu when he actually hit momoshiki with the sword
Sasuke's taijutsu feats only seem better if you don't pay attention. Almost all of his hits are because naruto grapples momoshiki or pushes him in some way.
Hits were at best equal.
Don't see why sasuke had better speed as their running speed when they approached momoshiki was equal all but one time where sasuke used a shunshin while naruto didn't.
Don't see what implied equal durability, in fact Naruto not being physically damaged by the giant bijuudama while sasuke gets half his face melted means sasukes durability is pathetic compared to naruto's.

And all of that is irrelevant because Naruto is shown to be superior to sasuke which is why sasuke got roasted and needed to be saved by naruto while naruto is able to fight momoshiki 1 vs 1 without getting his butt kicked.

 

[DHOH]

So you're claiming Sasuke didn't go all out? Based on what?
We know what naruto is at least capable of when he goes all out, Sasuke doesn't show an answer to that in this movie, we know sasuke needed the 9 bijuu in order to answer that in canon. What is sasuke's answer to that here?


Which is irrelevant because of the reasons explained already. If you want to ignore those reasons, just tell me so I know that attempting to have a logical discussion with you is pointless.


NAruto showed better kenjutsu when he actually hit momoshiki with the sword
Sasuke's taijutsu feats only seem better if you don't pay attention. Almost all of his hits are because naruto grapples momoshiki or pushes him in some way.
Hits were at best equal.
Don't see why sasuke had better speed as their running speed when they approached momoshiki was equal all but one time where sasuke used a shunshin while naruto didn't.
Don't see what implied equal durability, in fact Naruto not being physically damaged by the giant bijuudama while sasuke gets half his face melted means sasukes durability is pathetic compared to naruto's.

And all of that is irrelevant because Naruto is shown to be superior to sasuke which is why sasuke got roasted and needed to be saved by naruto while naruto is able to fight momoshiki 1 vs 1 without getting his butt kicked.

Of course he didn't. Sasuke didn't use any paths abilities. Sasuke can counter everything Naruto has..

I'm only doing what you're doing and that's pointing out whatever makes the character I'm supporting look good.

Lol breaking Momoshiki sword is not the same as hitting him.
Disagree.. Sasuke landed more hits and his Taijutsu was much better.
Excuses.. Sasuke was shown to be faster.
Not being damage? Lol. He was captured. While Sasuke recover in less than five seconds from his burn.

Lol you have that all backwards.. Naruto was captured and needed Sasuke to save him.. Did you even watch the movie?

 

[DemiNaruto]

Naruto took momo huge bijuudama on his on. Could sasukes ps take that attack? Nope he would have been obliterated, naruto purposely did that as the hokage knowing that sasuke would find him later. Neither showed better kenjutsu, speed or power in that fight. They were equal

 

[King Of Pop]

=Kunihi;20196566]
NAruto showed better kenjutsu when he actually hit momoshiki with the sword

no he didnt. what he did there doesnt compare to sasuke who

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all the way with kinshiki in kenjutsu who is the weapon user and master, not momoshiki. the latter may have absorbed him but he doesnt inherit his skills.

Sasuke's taijutsu feats only seem better if you don't pay attention. Almost all of his hits are because naruto grapples momoshiki or pushes him in some way.

urrm no, first time they attacked momo, sasuke kicks him away, then shortly after, he shunshins and punches him. both actions which naruto doesnt impact in any way

Don't see why sasuke had better speed as their running speed when they approached momoshiki was equal all but one time where sasuke used a shunshin while naruto didn't.

sasuke doesnt have better speed but you are wrong. first time, they shinshin towards momo, not running speed.

And all of that is irrelevant because Naruto is shown to be superior to sasuke which is why sasuke got roasted and needed to be saved by naruto while naruto is able to fight momoshiki 1 vs 1 without getting his butt kicked.

not sure what movie you were watching but naruto got fodderized by momos rock formation and subdued between them, he also got pinned by what looked like rods on his back and unable to move while sasuke came up with the final strategy. he was fighting momo initially with his kurama avatar while sasuke didnt use ps against the former until when he cloaked the avatar and when that happened ps slash one shotted moms golem and had him defeated .
in that final battle, naruto wasnt shown to be superior to sasuke in anyway, shape or form. sasuke completely matched him physically

 

[Kunihi]

no he didnt. what he did there doesnt compare to sasuke who

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all the way with kinshiki in kenjutsu who is the weapon user and master, not momoshiki. the latter may have absorbed him but he doesnt inherit his skills.

kinshiki might have had more skill, but momoshiki had more ability.

urrm no, first time they attacked momo, sasuke kicks him away, then shortly after, he shunshins and punches him. both actions which naruto doesnt impact in any way

If you watch that bit again, you'll see naruto pulls momo down to the right which allows sasuke to kick him that first time.

sasuke doesnt have better speed but you are wrong. first time, they shinshin towards momo, not running speed.

yeah it could have been

not sure what movie you were watching but naruto got fodderized by momos rock formation and subdued between them, he also got pinned by what looked like rods on his back and unable to move while sasuke came up with the final strategy. he was fighting momo initially with his kurama avatar while sasuke didnt use ps against the former until when he cloaked the avatar and when that happened ps slash one shotted moms golem and had him defeated.

Trapped for a few seconds = fodderized?
He only got pinned because he was what momoshiki's attention was on.
The PS slash was powered by Naruto's avatar, if Vote 2 was any indication of what holds the power between the armor or the chakra monster, it's the chakra monster.

in that final battle, naruto wasnt shown to be superior to sasuke in anyway, shape or form. sasuke completely matched him physically

Not at all, Naruto simply played support during the taijutsu fight, and he still did more damage. He then needed to save sasuke who got burned and knocked out in seconds of fighting momoshiki, while naruto fought him solo and was wrecking momo's chakra constructs.