RSM Naruto vs. Adult Naruto??

[Ambivalence]

You're arguing with a guy that thinks SM Naruto > Half Kurama. Another fanboy added to the pile...

 

[Kunihi]

You're arguing with a guy that thinks SM Naruto > Half Kurama. Another fanboy added to the pile...

"You're arguing with a guy who thinks the earth is round. Another moron who refuses to accept the earth is flat" -dude who lived in ancient Greece.

 

[DHOH]

I've explained everything. Sasuke was just better in the Boruto movie.

 

[Ambivalence]

"You're arguing with a guy who thinks the earth is round. Another moron who refuses to accept the earth is flat" -dude who lived in ancient Greece.

Heard this same argument already, doesn't make it any less shittier.

Wait, are you that guy who I was arguing with on PM? Kuikamauna? He used that same comparison and your names are similar. Lol, so now that EE busting PS is done, SM Naruto can beat Half Kurama, huh?

 

[Kunihi]

Heard this same argument already, doesn't make it any less shittier.

"I've heard the same argument that the earth is round before. Doesn't change anything" -dude from ancient greece

Wait, are you that guy who I was arguing with on PM? Kuikamauna? He used that same comparison and your names are similar. Lol, so now that EE busting PS is done, SM Naruto can beat Half Kurama, huh?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Ambivalence]

:lol It's funny how you compare something like basic picture interpretation of a manga to Earth's shape, of which all of the people on the planet at that time had no access to both the qualification and means to form a valid argument? You realize, at the time the Earth was thought to be flat, there were no satellites, no NASA telescopes, no advanced means of confirming something as important as Earth's shape. That's when people shot blind, and were only producing theories due to the lack of evidence. And here we have a movie and some panels that you can't interpret properly and think the other dozen people are wrong. It's also funny how someone who just joined thinks he knows better than members who've been here multiple years and have debated this stuff multiple times.

 

[Kunihi]

:lol It's funny how you compare something like basic picture interpretation of a manga to Earth's shape, of which all of the people on the planet at that time had no access to both the qualification and means to form a valid argument? You realize, at the time the Earth was thought to be flat, there were no satellites, no NASA telescopes, no advanced means of confirming something as important as Earth's shape. That's when people shot blind, and were only producing theories due to the lack of evidence. And here we have a single manga panel that you can't interpret properly and think the other dozen people are wrong. It's also funny how someone who just joined thinks he knows better than members who've been here multiple years and have debated this stuff multiple times.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. "A lot of people in the community that I'm around believe something to be true so it must be true, therefore I'm going to close off and dismiss any arguments or evidence that go contrary to that belief as incorrect or wrong."

The amount of people who hold a belief has nothing to do with the truth of that belief, the truth lies in the objective evidence and reasoning behind those beliefs. If you are so sure that your beliefs are correct or true, then you shouldn't have any issues displaying the reasoning for that, rather than simply trying to dismiss alternative claims just because they run contrary to what's popular.

 

[Ambivalence]

^ There's no need to write my reasoning since I've already went through this at least a dozen times. Adult Naruto and Sasuke were portrayed equal in physical ability. To be more precise:

- Speed and strength-wise, they are equal
- Taijutsu-wise, both in skill and in striking speed, they are equal
- Durability goes to Naruto, I don't know what that other guy was thinking when he said Sasuke is more durable
- Reaction time goes to Naruto, but Sasuke nulls that gap with the massive precog from his EMS.

The above is what the latest canon work of Naruto displayed when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke's physical attributes. In terms of an all-out fight, normally they'd be equal until Ashura Avatar comes out, but it was already stated in an official and canon work that Sasuke at his strongest equals Naruto, so anything you or anyone that likes Naruto/Sasuke more says is completely irrelevant. Your arguments were horrendously biased, seeing as how you were grasping at straws saying Naruto prepped Momoshiki for Sasuke's hits or some BS like that, not to mention saying Naruto is better than Sasuke at kenjutsu and Naruto being able to fight him 1v1 unlike Sasuke (who never even used his avatar, unlike Naruto, who visibly struggled until Sasuke helped) and Naruto holding back for equality lol at that one) makes it easy to see where you stand, but I won't address this further, as your preference for Naruto is too obvious.

As for the topic at hand, Adult RSM Naruto with Full Kurama is stronger than Teen RSM Naruto with bits of the other Bijuu.

 

[KidGamer65]

The Naruto wank is disgusting b.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Kunihi;20201003]kinshiki might have had more skill, but momoshiki had more ability.

with kenjutsu? momo may have more ability but it doesnt concern kenjutsu which is the only thing that matters here. sasukes overall movements with the blade is above what naruto did.

If you watch that bit again, you'll see naruto pulls momo down to the right which allows sasuke to kick him that first time.

ok but the shunshin punch still stands. also when sasuke landed the lotus kick upwards, momo had been free from narutos grasp but he still got hit. then theres the fact the argument works both ways, whatever naruto did in that cqc was helped by the fact that sasuke was also present. i can also use that argument if you want to go that route

Trapped for a few seconds = fodderized?

you said he can fight momo without getting beat but he was owned before so my point still stands.

He only got pinned because he was what momoshiki's attention was on.

urrm not sure what this is supposed to prove. momos attention was on sasuke when the latter got his face burned so this isnt any sort of argument. arent you the one who claimed he could fight momo and not get his ass kicked? dont defeat your own claims

The PS slash was powered by Naruto's avatar, if Vote 2 was any indication of what holds the power between the armor or the chakra monster, it's the chakra monster.

when did vote 2 demonstrate that?

Not at all, Naruto simply played support during the taijutsu fight, and he still did more damage.

he didnt do more damage. they both supported each other and in that, sasuke landed more hits.

He then needed to save sasuke who got burned and knocked out in seconds of fighting momoshiki, while naruto fought him solo and was wrecking momo's chakra constructs.

naruto fought him with his kurama avatar as ive stated while sasuke didnt use his equivalent power in ps when he got his face burned so your comparison doesnt hold. it doesnt show narutos superiority at all except to show kurama avatar naruto>ribcage only sasuke. then thres the fact that it wasnt wrecking anything as he was getting somewhat overwhelmed when sasuke did bring out ps, in which its contribution allowed them take down momo.
then theres the fact that during the cqc fight, naruto is the one who got owned first, while sasuke was striving on initially, chopping down several spikes with his expert kenjutsu before he later got burned.

 

[Kunihi]

^ There's no need to write my reasoning since I've already went through this at least a dozen times. Adult Naruto and Sasuke were portrayed equal in physical ability. To be more precise:

- Speed and strength-wise, they are equal
- Taijutsu-wise, both in skill and in striking speed, they are equal
- Durability goes to Naruto, I don't know what that other guy was thinking when he said Sasuke is more durable
- Reaction time goes to Naruto, but Sasuke nulls that gap with the massive precog from his EMS.

Sure I agree with this. I thought you were going to start talking about the SM Naruto vs 50% Kurama since that's what you called me out on.

The above is what the latest canon work of Naruto displayed when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke's physical attributes. In terms of an all-out fight, normally they'd be equal until Ashura Avatar comes out, but it was already stated in an official and canon work that Sasuke at his strongest equals Naruto, so anything you or anyone that likes Naruto/Sasuke more says is completely irrelevant. Your arguments were horrendously biased, seeing as how you were grasping at straws saying Naruto prepped Momoshiki for Sasuke's hits or some BS like that, not to mention saying Naruto is better than Sasuke at kenjutsu and Naruto being able to fight him 1v1 unlike Sasuke (who never even used his avatar, unlike Naruto, who visibly struggled until Sasuke helped) and Naruto holding back for equality lol at that one) makes it easy to see where you stand, but I won't address this further, as your preference for Naruto is too obvious.

Do you have a link to this official and canon work that Sasuke at his strongest equals Naruto?

The bolded is very easily visible to anyone who rewatches the fight and just tries to look for it.

 

[Kunihi]

with kenjutsu? momo may have more ability but it doesnt concern kenjutsu which is the only thing that matters here. sasukes overall movements with the blade is above what naruto did.

Did sasuke score a hit on anyone with kenjutsu? If not then how is what he did above what naruto did?

ok but the shunshin punch still stands. also when sasuke landed the lotus kick upwards, momo had been free from narutos grasp but he still got hit. then theres the fact the argument works both ways, whatever naruto did in that cqc was helped by the fact that sasuke was also present. i can also use that argument if you want to go that route

Sure, i agree with that.

you said he can fight momo without getting beat but he was owned before so my point still stands.

then I ask again, trapped for a few seconds = owned or beaten?

urrm not sure what this is supposed to prove. momos attention was on sasuke when the latter got his face burned so this isnt any sort of argument. arent you the one who claimed he could fight momo and not get his ass kicked? dont defeat your own claims

Naruto wasn't even using RSM when all of that happened.

when did vote 2 demonstrate that?

When all the power of indra's arrow and its weaponry came from the chakra beast

he didnt do more damage. they both supported each other and in that, sasuke landed more hits.

if naruto didn't cut momoshiki's back with the sword sure.

naruto fought him with his kurama avatar as ive stated while sasuke didnt use his equivalent power in ps when he got his face burned so your comparison doesnt hold. it doesnt show narutos superiority at all except to show kurama avatar naruto>ribcage only sasuke. then thres the fact that it wasnt wrecking anything as he was getting somewhat overwhelmed when sasuke did bring out ps, in which its contribution allowed them take down momo.
then theres the fact that during the cqc fight, naruto is the one who got owned first, while sasuke was striving on initially, chopping down several spikes with his expert kenjutsu before he later got burned.

When was naruto getting overwhelmed? The snakes were doing nothing to him, he ripped four of them apart easily, and then he ripped the bird apart as well.

Sure, if you consider getting trapped for a few seconds the equivalent to getting defeated then yeah naruto got 'owned' before sasuke got 'owned'.

 

[Ambivalence]

^ Lol, I never said any of that.

Do you have a link to this official and canon work that Sasuke at his strongest equals Naruto?

It was stated in

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, the Boruto movie guidebook containing detailed info on various stuff, including Momoshiki and Kinshiki and also contained the chapter of Naruto's Hokage ceremony. Here's Sasuke's profile entry:

Spoiler

Uchiha Sasuke


Unranked


「何よりお前は…ナルトよりウスラ�� �ンカチだ」


"Moreso than anything else...you're more of a 'usuratonkachi' than Naruto"


父として 師として――


双眸が見すえるは忍界の未来！！


As a father, and as a mentor――


A pair of eyes that focus on the future of the ninja world!!


血継限界 ”写輪眼” を有するうちは一族の生き残り。少�� �時代は復讐者として忍の闇を歩んだ� ��、ナルトとの死闘を経て和解を果た す事に。”写輪眼” と”輪廻眼”を有し、現在はナルト�� �比肩する強者として、忍界の未来を� ��護する。


The survivor of the Uchiha clan who is endowed with the kekkei-genkai, 'Sharingan'. When he was a boy, he walked in the darkness of shinobi as an avenger. But after he faught Naruto to the death, he achieved reconciliation. Possessing the 'Sharingan' and 'Rinnegan', he's a strong man who currently ranks equal to Naruto, and protects the future of the ninja world.

Here's the link to Narutoforums' translation: [

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] (just click on Sasuke).

Not gonna bother with that last sentence since you actually believe yourself.

 

[oxtopus]

The same goes for Naruto fans who can't accept that Sasuke can create BPS on his own. So they're basically saying PS = 3 faced Kurama Avatar. And people who are not sure about RSM and Naruto's possession of it come from both fanbases, not just Sasuke fanbase. An example below.

I'm 100% sure,i've made threads about it and won arguments about it,it's just that 97% of the base are confused and don't know what is rsm. what naruto used wasn't rsm. He used kurama mode with six paths.

 

[Kunihi]

^ Lol, I never said any of that.

Stupid, stupid stupid!

It was stated in

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, the Boruto movie guidebook containing detailed info on various stuff, including Momoshiki and Kinshiki and also contained the chapter of Naruto's Hokage ceremony. Here's Sasuke's profile entry:

Spoiler

Uchiha Sasuke


Unranked


「何よりお前は…ナルトよりウスラ�� �ンカチだ」


"Moreso than anything else...you're more of a 'usuratonkachi' than Naruto"


父として 師として――


双眸が見すえるは忍界の未来！！


As a father, and as a mentor――


A pair of eyes that focus on the future of the ninja world!!


血継限界 ”写輪眼” を有するうちは一族の生き残り。少�� �時代は復讐者として忍の闇を歩んだ� ��、ナルトとの死闘を経て和解を果た す事に。”写輪眼” と”輪廻眼”を有し、現在はナルト�� �比肩する強者として、忍界の未来を� ��護する。


The survivor of the Uchiha clan who is endowed with the kekkei-genkai, 'Sharingan'. When he was a boy, he walked in the darkness of shinobi as an avenger. But after he faught Naruto to the death, he achieved reconciliation. Possessing the 'Sharingan' and 'Rinnegan', he's a strong man who currently ranks equal to Naruto, and protects the future of the ninja world.

Here's the link to Narutoforums' translation: [

You must be registered for see links

] (just click on Sasuke).

Not gonna bother with that last sentence since you actually believe yourself.

that's good enough for me thanks.