RP Question regarding CE's and KG's.

[The Riddlerr]

I was just curious... What exactly is the difference between Elemental KG's and CE's on NB...? I mean, the Manga tells us that an Elemental KG is something that combines 2 elements to create a new element.. Like Ice or Wood or Lava etc.

However on NB, people have CE's that use 2 elements and are suddenly NOT KG's...? I was just kinda wondering, how is this possible? Cause it seems to go against the whole concept of exactly what a KG is.

 

[Better]

A riddle from the riddler O_O

 

[Typhon]

I was just curious... What exactly is the difference between Elemental KG's and CE's on NB...? I mean, the Manga tells us that an Elemental KG is something that combines 2 elements to create a new element.. Like Ice or Wood or Lava etc.

However on NB, people have CE's that use 2 elements and are suddenly NOT KG's...? I was just kinda wondering, how is this possible? Cause it seems to go against the whole concept of exactly what a KG is.

There's essentially no difference, really. Its just a very liberal adaptation of the manga to increase creativity in the RP.

Though one difference would be a KG is restricted to a specific blood line, whereas a CE is just new element.

 

[The Riddlerr]

There's essentially no difference, really. Its just a very liberal adaptation of the manga to increase creativity in the RP.

Though one difference would be a KG is restricted to a specific blood line, whereas a CE is just new element.

But KG's are restricted not only because of Bloodline, but because it requires you to combine 2 elements in 1 technique and you've therefore created something that no one else should be able to make unless they have that bloodline. We've seen nothing in the Manga that shows someone can use 2 elements in 1 technique without it being a KG... Well, nothing that I can remember anyway.

We've seen people combine 2 techniques to create a single element, but never the opposite.

 

[Typhon]

But KG's are restricted not only because of Bloodline, but because it requires you to combine 2 elements in 1 technique and you've therefore created something that no one else should be able to make unless they have that bloodline. We've seen nothing in the Manga that shows someone can use 2 elements in 1 technique without it being a KG... Well, nothing that I can remember anyway.

We've seen people combine 2 techniques to create a single element, but never the opposite.

All that's true, there are a lot of things in our RP that aren't exactly true to the manga. For instance every character can use all five of the basic elements, which is only true for special characters in the manga.

Its just a decision that was made in the RP ages ago to help increase what someone has at their disposal and also to bring more variety into the system. Other people have brought this up before (more about the 5 elements than the CEs) but the majority of RPers like it the way it is.

If you personally dislike that and would rather stay true to the manga you can make your battles with it restricted so people can only use X number of elements and no Custom Elements.

 

[The Riddlerr]

All that's true, there are a lot of things in our RP that aren't exactly true to the manga. For instance every character can use all five of the basic elements, which is only true for special characters in the manga.

Its just a decision that was made in the RP ages ago to help increase what someone has at their disposal and also to bring more variety into the system. Other people have brought this up before (more about the 5 elements than the CEs) but the majority of RPers like it the way it is.

If you personally dislike that and would rather stay true to the manga you can make your battles with it restricted so people can only use X number of elements and no Custom Elements.

I'm more or less just wondering why some are labelled as KG's and others are labelled as CE's when they're the same thing.

 

[Typhon]

I'm more or less just wondering why some are labelled as KG's and others are labelled as CE's when they're the same thing.

I suppose the reason why its called a "Custom Element" rather than "Custom Kekkei Genkai" is because Kekkei Genkai are a direct result of someone's blood, hence why its called a Kekkei Genkai (Bloodline Limit). A custom element is in no way connected to a character's genetics or clan, its simply a creation of a new element for fun's sake.

Though, it is possible to create a custom KG. If you're making a custom clan you can give it something similar to the KG in the manga, which would make it linked to your clan's bloodline.

 

[The Riddlerr]

But no custom element can be made unless it's a KG <.<" that's meant to be one of the perks of an elemental KG...

 

[Vincent]

But no custom element can be made unless it's a KG <.<" that's meant to be one of the perks of an elemental KG...

Look, this is one of the things you are going to have to let drop. Custom Elements do not class as KG for the simple reason that they are an invention of this roleplay and have no actual link to the narutoverse in terms of cannon manga

 

[Typhon]

But no custom element can be made unless it's a KG <.<" that's meant to be one of the perks of an elemental KG...

Minato's answer pretty much is it.

It is what it is, we know its not correct in terms of the manga, but everyone likes it so we have it. I guess its just a take it or leave it type of thing. xd

 

[Scorps]

Also, don't forget that KG include things as Dojuutsu, special bones, special bodies, etc etc. A KG isn't limited to elemental releases.

CEs are a way of allowing only customary elemental releases. If we allowed Custom KG, then we must be sure that tons of other things would be submitted such as custom dojutsu, custom skin, custom...everything. I bet people would even make custom souls. Then were would the cannon things go? ^^

 

[Wesobi]

stupid scorps beat me to it >.>

Also, a custom KG is part of a custom clan most of the time, where as a custom element is of 2 people, and 2 students (depending if they teach it or not, and have a co creator or not).

Let's not forget, why it isn't called a custom KG as well, is because some custom elements have more than 2 elements as well, which is a kekkei tota or something like that. Calling that a KG would be incorrect as well, so just for the sake of keeping it easy, it's a CE.

 

[Scorps]

Stupid you should have waken up a bit sooner... U_U

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm more or less just wondering why some are labelled as KG's and others are labelled as CE's when they're the same thing.

CE's shows it was created by a member while KG shows it was derived from the manga. theyre technically the same, but its a way to tell them apart.

also, remember not all KG are elements, such as Dojutsu.
if the mods called it custom KG, people might get the impression they can make their own Dojutsu, which is not the case

 

[Vincent]

CE's shows it was created by a member while KG shows it was derived from the manga. theyre technically the same, but its a way to tell them apart.

also, remember not all KG are elements, such as Dojutsu.
if the mods called it custom KG, people might get the impression they can make their own Dojutsu, which is not the case

Already stated my myself, scorps and danzo.. so what was the need for your post? xD

 

[The Riddlerr]

That's why I included the word Elemental in front of it... Lol.

But if I'm getting this right, it's a Custom Elemental KG that isn't restricted to a Bloodline and is simply called that?

Something along those lines anyway....

 

[Vincent]

That's why I included the word Elemental in front of it... Lol.

But if I'm getting this right, it's a Custom Elemental KG that isn't restricted to a Bloodline and is simply called that?

Something along those lines anyway....

no.. its not a kg in anyway, like I said, stop trying to rationalise it in terms of the manga, it is a invention of this rp. Just drop it ok? xD

 

[The Riddlerr]

It's far from an invention to this RP... The Manga tells us it's a KG <.<" I'm just trying to rationalize everything so it makes sense to me because the whole "It's that way because we made it that way." isn't a good enough reason for me... Unfortunately I have a habit of needing things to be a certain way, I blame my OCD but others could call it ignorance or something along those lines.

 

[Vincent]

It's far from an invention to this RP... The Manga tells us it's a KG <.<" I'm just trying to rationalize everything so it makes sense to me because the whole "It's that way because we made it that way." isn't a good enough reason for me... Unfortunately I have a habit of needing things to be a certain way, I blame my OCD but others could call it ignorance or something along those lines.

As far as Custom elements are concerend, the only rationalisation is that it is an invention of this rp to add diveristy to the rp, thats all it is, it is not a kg, nor anything cannon to the manga

 

[Wesobi]

It's far from an invention to this RP... The Manga tells us it's a KG <.<" I'm just trying to rationalize everything so it makes sense to me because the whole "It's that way because we made it that way." isn't a good enough reason for me... Unfortunately I have a habit of needing things to be a certain way, I blame my OCD but others could call it ignorance or something along those lines.

Kekkei genkai (血継限界; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit") are abilities passed down genetically in specific clans. It's possible for a ninja to have more than one of these abilities. Kekkei genkai abilities that work via the user's eye are called dōjutsu. Other kekkei genkai include mixing one type of elemental chakra with another, creating a new one unique to the users, which is usually impossible for normal ninja.

CE's are not passed down genetically. There. Also, KG's include (like stated) Doujutsus, while CE's are not (exception being Nexus, who doesn't use it).

Now, will you please stop the discussion you're making that isn't even a discussion?