RP Chatroom Thread

[Penguin]

What are your favorite customs that LoK owns?

You speak as if Science exists in the Naruto world. The "average human" would be the equivalent to the ramen guy, the Daimyo's wife, the average citizen. Not a ninja, who've been shown to perform some superhuman feats. You cannot base Science into a fictional clan that already defies science, it's illogical to do so as well as to bring Scientific methods into an anime as it's nearly impossible to prove, even more so in our RP. I say it numerous times, science has no place in our RP of people that defy Science.

Inb4pissedoffmanwhodidallthatmathfornothing

 

[Ciberr]

Well:
- Energy still has mass, therefore it´ll reflect some of the sunrays/light when it´s projected onto it (Since sunrays, have very little mass as well, the collision between these two will be considered an elastic collision, meaning no loss of energy causing the sunray to reflect). This means that you can see something shining (it´s where the reflected light is coming from). So you can see it upon creation .

- Creating something big as a spike (From Solf and Howard´s fight) from something that almost has no mass requires a lot of time. This time includes the amount of time where it starts to form and you see it forming due to the shadow.

- Same reason as earlier, since some of the sunlight is deflected, there will be a shadow on the ground (it won´t be very dark tho). You can see the shadow almost instantaneously since it´s created at the speed of light. The object cannot move at the speed of light in such a short amount of time (it can´t really move at the speed of light since it has mass now) and human reaction is faster than the speed the object with that mass will move.

Proof:
Light travels at a speed of 300000000 m/s.
Human reaction is around 80 ms= 0.08 sec
A person who is walking, the average speed is of 6 m/s.
So...If you create, for example, an object of 1 gram of mass. If you want to use the object to attack the person, the minimum speed you need it to reach will be the person´s speed. Therefore:
Final Speed = Initial Speed + Acceleration * Time
6 m/s = 0 m/s + Acceleration * 0.08 sec
Acceleration = 75 m/s^2
Now, according to the Second Law of Newton:
Net Force = Mass * Acceleration
Net Force = 0.001 kg * 75 m/s^2
Net Force = 0.075 N (Which equals to the weight around 7,5 grams)
In the Net Force, the Force you used on the mass is included, but also the air resistance force (the air resistance force will increase as the speed of the object increases) and some other forces that are wasted by doing work (the mass will be heated due to air friction. Also when things are heated, the volume tends to be greater than when it´s not heated and that can cause more air resistance force). Therefore, the force you need to push onto the 1 gram object will require at least 8 grams of force.
Of course, something of 1 gram can´t cause damage to a human body physically (Will be explained afterwards)

- An average human person can support a pressure of up to 10 kg/cm^2 (Equivalent to 100000 kg/m^2 = 100000 Pa) in extreme conditions (Not counting the atmophere pressure, which is of 101325 Pa).
Now, let´s say the sectional area of the 1 gram thing is of 1 mm^2 and you applied 8 grams of force onto it, the pressure the skin will suffer will be of:
8 grams/mm^2 = 0.008 kg/mm^2 = 0,8 kg/ cm^2
In extreme conditions, a person can support 10 kg/cm^2, that means that skin can at least support that amount of pressure.
If you want to stab throught the skin, you´ll require at least 10 kg/cm^2.


To everyone saying Kiyoshi is op, Kiyoshi is very defend-able with even normal biographies.


- Yard and Naruta.

What in gods name

 

[Gèckö]

The best CFS in your opinion?

black leg taijutsu @_@

one piece my ish yo

 

[Penguin]

What is black leg taijutsu?

What in gods name

Inb4smartpeople

 

[Gèckö]

What is black leg taijutsu?



Inb4smartpeople

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don't read if you don't read one piece. Don't wanna spoil.

It's basically based off of one of my favorite character's fighting style.

 

[Penguin]

That is a really cool CFS. But I don't want to watch OP.

 

[-Yard-]

You speak as if Science exists in the Naruto world. The "average human" would be the equivalent to the ramen guy, the Daimyo's wife, the average citizen. Not a ninja, who've been shown to perform some superhuman feats. You cannot base Science into a fictional clan that already defies science, it's illogical to do so as well as to bring Scientific methods into an anime as it's nearly impossible to prove, even more so in our RP. I say it numerous times, science has no place in our RP of people that defy Science.

As much as I'd like to agree. Science in the RP does exist to a point. Yes ninja in the Narutoverse are apparently super human. However, there's been fights where someone dropped another from several feet and was ruled by sensei's that the person has injuries and that even tho in the Narutoverse that can happen, that the RP is still a bit more realistic. Rules need to be stated for how realistic the RP is instead of a lot of these unspoken rules I've seen. I really don't want the RP to be realistic, but everyday there are arguments where people say that X couldn't happen because something something human body can't do X or whatever. And it get's ruled as true by RP mods and sensei's and the argument is proved to be correct and thus slowly changes the RP and leaves mixed assumptions as to what you can and cannot do. Thus since there are hidden guidelines that is now supposed to be common knowledge as to what you cannot do, which revolves around realism of course, I don't see why what I've said isn't correct. As it's physics which has to be used in the RP. If the RP doesn't use basic physics which is what was in my post then I don't see how we could even RP at all. I like things not being realistic a lot, but there has to be basic physics or else RP doesn't work at all.

 

[Better]

Well:
- Energy still has mass, therefore it´ll reflect some of the sunrays/light when it´s projected onto it (Since sunrays, have very little mass as well, the collision between these two will be considered an elastic collision, meaning no loss of energy causing the sunray to reflect). This means that you can see something shining (it´s where the reflected light is coming from). So you can see it upon creation .

- Creating something big as a spike (From Solf and Howard´s fight) from something that almost has no mass requires a lot of time. This time includes the amount of time where it starts to form and you see it forming due to the shadow.

- Same reason as earlier, since some of the sunlight is deflected, there will be a shadow on the ground (it won´t be very dark tho). You can see the shadow almost instantaneously since it´s created at the speed of light. The object cannot move at the speed of light in such a short amount of time (it can´t really move at the speed of light since it has mass now) and human reaction is faster than the speed the object with that mass will move.

Proof:
Light travels at a speed of 300000000 m/s.
Human reaction is around 80 ms= 0.08 sec
A person who is walking, the average speed is of 6 m/s.
So...If you create, for example, an object of 1 gram of mass. If you want to use the object to attack the person, the minimum speed you need it to reach will be the person´s speed. Therefore:
Final Speed = Initial Speed + Acceleration * Time
6 m/s = 0 m/s + Acceleration * 0.08 sec
Acceleration = 75 m/s^2
Now, according to the Second Law of Newton:
Net Force = Mass * Acceleration
Net Force = 0.001 kg * 75 m/s^2
Net Force = 0.075 N (Which equals to the weight around 7,5 grams)
In the Net Force, the Force you used on the mass is included, but also the air resistance force (the air resistance force will increase as the speed of the object increases) and some other forces that are wasted by doing work (the mass will be heated due to air friction. Also when things are heated, the volume tends to be greater than when it´s not heated and that can cause more air resistance force). Therefore, the force you need to push onto the 1 gram object will require at least 8 grams of force.
Of course, something of 1 gram can´t cause damage to a human body physically (Will be explained afterwards)

- An average human person can support a pressure of up to 10 kg/cm^2 (Equivalent to 100000 kg/m^2 = 100000 Pa) in extreme conditions (Not counting the atmophere pressure, which is of 101325 Pa).
Now, let´s say the sectional area of the 1 gram thing is of 1 mm^2 and you applied 8 grams of force onto it, the pressure the skin will suffer will be of:
8 grams/mm^2 = 0.008 kg/mm^2 = 0,8 kg/ cm^2
In extreme conditions, a person can support 10 kg/cm^2, that means that skin can at least support that amount of pressure.
If you want to stab throught the skin, you´ll require at least 10 kg/cm^2.


To everyone saying Kiyoshi is op, Kiyoshi is very defend-able with even normal biographies.


@ solf. In your fight with Howard, you were actually wrong, since Howard was moving, your spikes wouldn't have hit his eyes as the spikes rest at 0 and must accelerate whereas Howard is already moving forward/howards. He'd be hit yes, but not his eyes. In fact, that's completely impossible. They'd only hit his knees or ankles.

- Yard and Naruta.

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yea..... how about the science of shooting black fire from one's eyes?

yea, you're thinking too much into this rp z.z @the fight comment

 

[Venom]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhk. I like Bandage arts and lazy fist

Favorite CE?

 

[Ciberr]

yea..... how about the science of shooting black fire from one's eyes?

yea, you're thinking too much into this rp z.z @the fight comment

Exactly ._.

 

[Lord of Kaos]

As much as I'd like to agree. Science in the RP does exist to a point. Yes ninja in the Narutoverse are apparently super human. However, there's been fights where someone dropped another from several feet and was ruled by sensei's that the person has injuries and that even tho in the Narutoverse that can happen, that the RP is still a bit more realistic. Rules need to be stated for how realistic the RP is instead of a lot of these unspoken rules I've seen. I really don't want the RP to be realistic, but everyday there are arguments where people say that X couldn't happen because something something human body can't do X or whatever. And it get's ruled as true by RP mods and sensei's and the argument is proved to be correct and thus slowly changes the RP and leaves mixed assumptions as to what you can and cannot do. Thus since there are hidden guidelines that is now supposed to be common knowledge as to what you cannot do, which revolves around realism of course, I don't see why what I've said isn't correct. As it's physics which has to be used in the RP. If the RP doesn't use basic physics which is what was in my post then I don't see how we could even RP at all. I like things not being realistic a lot, but there has to be basic physics or else RP doesn't work at all.

The point where you have to draw formulas and make detailed explanations like that is beyond the scope of "basic physics" for a RP. Whether it's basic to real life or not is moot, you say you only like to rp for fun yet you bring a detailed argument over the defense of a clan through the use of rormulas and scientific equations. Where's the fun in that?

 

[-Yard-]

yea..... how about the science of shooting black fire from one's eyes?

yea, you're thinking too much into this rp z.z @the fight comment

Not talking about that, just talking about the things around that as that revolves around the foundations of RP. However, when in a battle, you're placing yourself in that situation, which requires realism to an extent. A limitation of that extent being that things like chakra, giant toads etc exist. However, if I wanted to have a Taijutsu battle, I'd need to use a bit more realism. If I were to attack someone with something I'd need more realism. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to do much in situations like those. Realism has to be in place but cannot exceed what's shown in the Anime. Tho, that's already happened in the RP.

The point where you have to draw formulas and make detailed explanations like that is beyond the scope of "basic physics" for a RP. Whether it's basic to real life or not is moot, you say you only like to rp for fun yet you bring a detailed argument over the defense of a clan through the use of rormulas and scientific equations. Where's the fun in that?

I rp for fun yes, I also will not argue usually in a battle unless someone argues with me. There was an argument present, I only clarified the events that would have actually happened because I was replying to the topic of which people were saying how Kiyoshi was "op" (I don't like that phrase really) etc. I think it's nice to be able to give people a few ways of which something they find "op" counter-able. I just like being helpful sometimes. Tho, my argument of their fight wouldn't have changed anything, I just used it as an example. Because honestly its the first battle in a long time that I've seen someone use a kiyoshi bio.

 

[Kung Fro]

why cant i make fire appear and eat lightning for fun without science

 

[Ciberr]

I think the term OP is applied to Kiyoshi since you can generate energy anywhere around your opponent should you want to. In most cases generating a A rank spear behind somebody's head in the first turn isn't the easiest to counter. Even more so with the massive restrictions of today's customs.

 

[Ciberr]

See the only times you see a Kiyoshi do that is when the person wants to fight to end quickly other wise it would be counter able no matter what. So the only time is when the person want the fight to end quickly so he or she does a near impossible move. When the last time you ever seen me use my Kiyoshi bio like I did with Howard and Penguin(lol that was a quick one)

The fact that they could though is a problem. New gen RP'ers(Generally) have no counter for that. Or without MG'ing that is.

 

[-Yard-]

@bold whoever said it couldn't be defended? I never said neither has the others. I just used his movements and my moves to allow me do something that is very very hard to defend.

@underline Nope he would be hit in the eyes. The eyes is where he is hit because of he is moving forward up towards me so he would be hit. You thinking way to much. Please it is cool to think outside the box but getting far way from the box is dangerous.


Yes people say OP because they can't counter it.

I never said that you said anything. I said that others said it was OP, op equaling over powered and thus would require something above what's normally gained through rp in order to counter it. I'm just showing that it isn't. Although it's extremely useful and very versatile which I love about it. Powerful, but not overly.


I'm not going to address the 2nd part completely, but I will say this. The equations part was just showing proof of things I stated in case any were to argue against what I stated. The formulas do not need to be there, they are just proof. They don't even need to be thought of in battle, they are just proof. Could even write formulas about how one could strike the opponent with their fist for example, it's just proof that you could strike them with your fist. Or formulas about how one could throw a kunai and have it go into their chest, it's just showing that it could be thrown and go into their chest. They do not need to be addressed and are just proof to back up the statement. Hell, you could rp using formulas, or you could just RP by saying "I throw a kunai with my right hand that's aimed towards your chest." Same thing, just that the formula is proof. Not really going outside the box.

 

[Kung Fro]

Solf all you do is use kiyoshi techs in a ridiculous way. You've even acknowledged that multiple times

They can be kicked out if they abuse their abilities

-Kiyoshi Clan Submission lel

 

[Noni]

The fact that they could though is a problem. New gen RP'ers(Generally) have no counter for that. Or without MG'ing that is.

If someone has a spear appear at the back of my neck I can easily distinguish the light it produces. I can notice a shadow cast over me. Just by that I can evade. The fact it has a bright color makes it simple.

 

[Penguin]

The fact that they could though is a problem. New gen RP'ers(Generally) have no counter for that. Or without MG'ing that is.

I couldn't counter. :|

See the only times you see a Kiyoshi do that is when the person wants to fight to end quickly other wise it would be counter able no matter what. So the only time is when the person want the fight to end quickly so he or she does a near impossible move. When the last time you ever seen me use my Kiyoshi bio like I did with Howard and Penguin(lol that was a quick one)

Up yours buddy.

That was the quickest spar I ever had. xD

 

[The_Empire]

I couldn't counter. :|



Up yours buddy.

That was the quickest spar I ever had. xD

Lol you my bro so I know what you mean. You mean you love me. I just wanted to show you punishment for...what was it again? I forgot xD

Sooo anyone could get anything out the rp without permission and/or training what would it be?

Hmm I would like a full kinjutsu Tobirama bio or full Naruto bio(oowee this bio is to easy to get in a test)