[Suggestion] RP Cannon techniques training system

[BoBoKittyDuck]

Heyo,
So my problem as a new RPer is the waiting time on replies from senseis/senpais to training. I consider myself extremely lucky if i get 1 reply from 1 Sensei a day, meaning it will take alot of time to finish the basic 9. I'm losing interest in the Rp everytime i think how long it may take for another training session with a sensei.
But of course, Senseis/senpais being busy irl is understandable, which is why i would like to suggest a new training system.

Whoever would like a training in the rp should contact a sensei/Senpai, and then make a thread for the training (nothing new), but now instead of the Sensei posting techniques for the student to analyze, the student can do this alone and give an analysis on the techniques and post them all in the thread(this is possible in the NV in my opinion, as there were scrolls with jutsus on them), and whenever the Sensei would like, they can check the thread and add notes for the student. But of course, some parts like KG requires the current system, so these can stay the same.
This could make things faster for new students, and save alot of time for senseis/senpais.

 

[Sonnelion]

It would save time but it would then be to easy and hard for the Sensei/senpais to keep track and allow half-a*sed posts.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

I haven't seen a thread like this in years. Be thankful it used to be worse. the senseis have lives and they do other things. If they haven't replied in about a week or so sent a vm to remind them or ask if they're busy. The rp is about being patient, atleast during the training phase.

Also the suggestion you have here is dumb no lie, you can post whatever you want and learn it and a sensei can pop in if he wants yeah thats not a good idea

 

[Sonnelion]

Heyo,
So my problem as a new RPer is the waiting time on replies from senseis/senpais to training. I consider myself extremely lucky if i get 1 reply from 1 Sensei a day, meaning it will take alot of time to finish the basic 9. I'm losing interest in the Rp everytime i think how long it may take for another training session with a sensei.
But of course, Senseis/senpais being busy irl is understandable, which is why i would like to suggest a new training system.

Whoever would like a training in the rp should contact a sensei/Senpai, and then make a thread for the training (nothing new), but now instead of the Sensei posting techniques for the student to analyze, the student can do this alone and give an analysis on the techniques and post them all in the thread(this is possible in the NV in my opinion, as there were scrolls with jutsus on them), and whenever the Sensei would like, they can check the thread and add notes for the student. But of course, some parts like KG requires the current system, so these can stay the same.
This could make things faster for new students, and save alot of time for senseis/senpais.

You probably got dropped because of this btw.

I haven't seen a thread like this in years. Be thankful it used to be worse. the senseis have lives and they do other things. If they haven't replied in about a week or so sent a vm to remind them or ask if they're busy. The rp is about being patient, atleast during the training phase.

Also the suggestion you have here is dumb no lie, you can post whatever you want and learn it and a sensei can pop in if he wants yeah thats not a good idea

I just said that but shorter.....:bdpf:

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

I never even got started on RPing because after I got a Bio approved(Which took long enough in itself) I was never actually taught HOW to RP, and no Sensei would bother even responding to me. So yeah would love to learn RP since it seems interesting but I cant.

 

[BoBoKittyDuck]

I haven't seen a thread like this in years. Be thankful it used to be worse. the senseis have lives and they do other things. If they haven't replied in about a week or so sent a vm to remind them or ask if they're busy. The rp is about being patient, atleast during the training phase.

Also the suggestion you have here is dumb no lie, you can post whatever you want and learn it and a sensei can pop in if he wants yeah thats not a good idea

The senseis have lives, exactly, that's why i made this suggestion to make things easier for everyone.
No, you misunderstood what i meant, the senseis must say "ya, that's good enough" on your analysis in order to learn the technique, but instead of 3 techniques a session, it would be more. Before it was worse ya, but there were lots of people together, now there are barely 5 new rpers.

You probably got dropped because of this btw.

Uhm ok?

 

[Detective L]

Although it would make our job a whole lot easier (and almost make our job too easy, since we'd just be like, "okay!") it has some flaws. Firstly, although this system is slow, and we also have our own stuff to deal with generally (I balance NB RP with my University work, general social life, etc), it would lead to abuse, or misuse of techniques. Take the current system for example, even being taught by a sensei, a person who is supposed to know the system quite well, people still tend to make mistakes and/or misuse or abuse cannon techniques. Now imagine if a person was allowed to just analyze everything at once. Everyone would have the basic 5 mastered in a few days, and yay, our role becomes obsolete in a sense. We just say, okay, but what if you had questions about techniques, what if you don't understand the technique fully because the description is vague, for example.

I know its slow, but we all went through it. I had sensei who replied once in three weeks, but ey, I got stuff mastered. I had fun, I enjoyed my training, though some were tedious. I am working on a new method of training to make it more fun, but would it help if I brought my side, and my student only wants to complete his training as fast as possible..hm. Nonetheless, the system itself was not meant to be for so many people, when the RP and the training system in general was created, it was catering for what, say 40 people at the time (this is like 2009 era). Things were simple, and there weren't as many canon techniques as there are now. Is it flawed, yes. Would this suggestion make things easier, yes. But is it really feasible if we see the examples I present above..I think my statement has answered that xD.

Hopefully good 'ol LoK will post too, and give his opinion, but its bound to be something like this ^.

 

[RuckenTM]

...or pull a Kakashi, say "Training is a very difficult exam, failing rate is over 66%!"

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*annoying* "Ok-okay, am leaving"

 

[Urda]

Yeah, I used to hate the "dragged-out" training too. The fact it takes a year(s) to finish the overall basic training is a problem that really needs to be fixed. As you said, it turns away new people who want to RP.

Suggesting: Anyway, the current system needs to be simplified yet substantive while slashing the years needed to finish. The way we should go about this first is give an overview of the certain field; secondly, and not necessary for all Ninja Arts, but specifically the Nature Transformation, use the Method Training System: Basic Projectiles, Continuing or Constant Streams, Alternative Releases, Specific Combos; lastly, focus primarily on the Role-play knowledge, which many are having a hard to time (Elemetnal Weakness and Strength Guide and Elemetal Interactions). The Jutsu are already self-explanatory and can be found on the wiki. However, many Sensei would say it is discouraged, but I disagree. Although descriptive writing is key to Role-Play and many students forget this (and it becomes their downfall in battles), but it is the students willingness to write well thought out replies and not the Sensei to push this through training. Sensei are merely educators of the RP. It is the Sensei job to give the student the basic understanding of the RP than English lessons.

My Advice to you: Learn a Nature Transformation you think you would excel in and another that is versatile, either Water Release or Earth Release; Ninjutsu covers all fields, thus, should be the first you learn and the fact that every Sensei is going to ask because it is essential to learn in order to move forward in training. Dealing with Sensei and Senpai: Find the most active Sensei/Senpai (This is important). Normally, pick a Senpai for the Nature Transformation Training and pick a Sensei for the Ninja Arts: Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, or Taijutsu. Kenjutsu and, somewhat, Taijutsu is not really special since most of it can be done free-form.

 

[Souji]

Personally, I've switched away from longer, description-based and RP-style trainings (unless the student wants it) into shorter, more condensed Q&As. This is a product of both my desire to make training as painless as possible, balancing speed and understanding, and my own activity on the forum. I agree with a lot of points made so far, like L-sensei's statement of obsolescence and Anubis's method suggestion, so I'll take those into consideration.

Each sensei has their own style of training, so we have to try and respect their individuality. However, I would also like to see some kind of Academy system that groups many people together and goes over important concepts and basic techniques. Furthermore, Reborn has already created the method system which some teachers have integrated into their threads, so there's that.

Maybe a suggestion to my fellow oranges would be to 'partner up' in threads to cover inactivity and get things done quickly. For example, if L and I decided to team up to complete someone's element, L could reply on a schedule (MWFSat), and me on other days (TuThSun) so that the student will always have a reply to get to and be able to get wisdom from two teachers U_U

Finally, I'm speaking for myself here, but any RP student should always give me feedback on how to improve and things I did well, things I didn't do well, etc. Wanting to learn and showing engagement in your training threads is just as important as us dumping a bunch of information on you.