Rock Lee vs Kakuzu

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What is still stopping the kunai from shattering the second it impacts? Without that kunai method of attacking and no piercing jutsu Lee is at a huge disadvantage against the statue Kakazu who is actually very flexible with his tentacles and incredibly good at taijutsu himself.
 

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Kakuzu low difficulty.

First of all, Lee is never penetrating Domu. It has tanked explosions, mass and piercing [ - ]. He has previously stated that no physical attack will work (except the Doton counterpart = Raiton, which was the only technique used to damage his Domu armor). Lee doesn't have such.

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Then there are attacks, that are maybe too fast for Lee to at least see. Previously in Chūnin exams, he stated he sometimes moved at such fast speed that he could not see a thing [ ]. He even stated that it leaves time for an easy counter, which Kakuzu can counter with Domu and Gian that moves at lightning speed. Evading this needs Kakashi's speed and Sharingan, which Lee stated to be troubled of.

I don't move at maximum speeds... in fact I can't. At times, the opponent can easily counter a straight attack which I don't have the 'eyes' (Sharingan) for to notice.

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Kakuzu low difficulty.

First of all, Lee is never penetrating Domu. It has tanked explosions, mass and piercing [ - ]. He has previously stated that no physical attack will work (except the Doton counterpart = Raiton, which was the only technique used to damage his Domu armor). Lee doesn't have such.​

Kakuzu's gonna be able to pull off the necessary hand seals for Domu each time Lee attacks? I highly doubt that, especially since Gai was able to strike Kisame before he even finished his thought process [ ]. I'm pretty sure he'll eventually get blitzed by 6G Lee. This also implies Kakuzu would have to be on the defence throughout the majority of the battle.
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Then there are attacks, that are maybe too fast for Lee to at least see. Previously in Chūnin exams, he stated he sometimes moved at such fast speed that he could not see a thing [ ]. He even stated that it leaves time for an easy counter, which Kakuzu can counter with Domu and Gian that moves at lightning speed. Evading this needs Kakashi's speed and Sharingan, which Lee stated to be troubled of.



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No... you've misunderstood that scan. He was talking about he'd never use an attack that's similar to Chidori because it'd leave him wide open. Even Minato comments on this [ ], he's specifically referring to Chidori; it's too linear of an attack. Lee can see just fine while operating at max speeds.
 

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Domu tanks everything. Manga fact. Nothing gets past domu. :)
 

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Kakuzu's still superior, though the gap between them is smaller than it used to be. Kakuzu would have to go all out.
 

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lol a mere kunai going at a high velocity is going through diamond? get out of here babe.
 

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You people don't get my point...

P=f.V
The power an object gains increases when the applied force and speed increases.
You can't throw a bullet to someone's head and expect to make a hole through his skull, but if you use same bullet within a gun the bullet makes a hole.

Kakuzu can tank normal kunais, cool.

However i am not speaking a normal kunai, it is packed by a type of power which can create flames out of friction, this type of speed is well above speed of sound, So it has a lot more momentum.

This Logic already canonically exists in NV, when Trollkage and Suigetsu used water guns. They could pierce through human flesh or thick Zetsu body; while normally a ninja can't splash water and expect the same result.
Kakuzu's still superior, though the gap between them is smaller than it used to be. Kakuzu would have to go all out.
Thatz something!!
 

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Thatz something!!

I think he'll be superior once he can open the 7th Gate.

And I think he'll learn to open it soon, I believe it was foreshadowed this chapter.
 

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You people don't get my point...

P=f.V
The power an object gains increases when the applied force and speed increases.
You can't throw a bullet to someone's head and expect to make a hole through his skull, but if you use same bullet within a gun the bullet makes a hole.

Kakuzu can tank normal kunais, cool.

However i am not speaking a normal kunai, it is packed by a type of power which can create flames out of friction, this type of speed is well above speed of sound, So it has a lot more momentum.

This Logic already canonically exists in NV, when Trollkage and Suigetsu used water guns. They could pierce through human flesh or thick Zetsu body; while normally a ninja can't splash water and expect the same result.
The difference is that the water is chakra-infused to increase the strength, much like how Gaara makes sand as hard as steel while still being flexible. There's only so much speed can do to increase power. Shooting a low caliber bullet at a tank will only destroy the bullet.
 

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Lmao?

Kakuzu low-Midd difficulty, although this kunai thing is new to me 0.o

However to put it short, Kakuzu's body is all threads on the insides, void of organs, no matter how hard Lee causes blunt damage with fists and such, it is not going to harm Kakuzu in the slightest, it may however send him backwards,however that doesn't mean he is physicaly hurt

NOT EVEN GOING TO MENTION DOMU, Think how fast Lee punches in gates, all that force being sent back into his arm, it would completely shatter it, Which is what happens when you punch diamond


He also has no way to avoid his jutsu in base
 

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OT: Kakuzu mid difficulty. Zexion will solo this thread soon. Lee is at best as powerful as early Shippuden Gai who was early Shippuden Kakashi's equal who was inferior to Kakuzu. I believe that domu can tank Lee's attacks long enough for Kakuzu to outlast him. Internal damage won't work because Kakuzu's body is made out of threads which will soften the blows. Hearts aren't getting taken out by kunais if they are inside Kakuzu's body or if they use their elemental jutsus to repel them. Not to mention that hearts primarily consist of threads so kunais will faze through doing nothing. Kakuzu's elemental jutsus will force Lee to evade which will only serve to exhaust his chakra reserves. If Lee strikes Kakuzu head on, Kakuzu's can grasp him with threads and rip out his heart.

Strongest person Lee can beat is probably Mifune, Hiashi or Kitsuchi. I would rank him low kage level.


Just realized you said it all already my man, lmao XD
 

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Zexion put these gai/lee fanboys to rest im annoyed now
 

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Kakuzu definitely. 6 Gates Lee might have a slight edge against Kakuzu, but even then I'm not sure. So Lee at best with gates can stalemate it. Then his gates run out and Kakuzu kills him.
 

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I don't want Zexion's shizz in this thread.

He always says Atsugai solos while infact is solod nothing other than a databook page.

@Ice hearts do not attack in 360 degress, with full Intel Lee can attack behind masks out of their attack range. Considering Hidan's scythe killed one of the hearts a kunai can kill them.

I am not saying Lee undoubtly wins but matchup is closer than people think. And Kakuzu>Kakashi>Gai>Lee is A>B>C logic, especially when Lee can counter Kakashi's arsenal he used against Kakuzu and might beat him.
Okay so Lee can get behind the hearts, cool, but if he throws a kunai it will slip through all those threads so the heart will be unharmed. Hidan used his ritual which allows his scythe to bypass any barriers which allowed him to directly attack the heart without actually attacking it.

Lee's kunais will most likely faze through Kakuzu's threads and if a heart gets destroyed, no big deal since Kakuzu has four more to go. Kunai thrown by Lee will have greater momentum but there is a maximum terminal velocity with which an object can be accelerated to since air resistance always creates terminal velocity. Hence an object falling from the sky can't accelerate to a speed near the speed of light.

This argument of Lee's kunai being too fast is just as bad as the arguments Tsunade fanboys have where they state that Tsunade can throw a rock at Deidara with her strength which would be too fast for Deidara to handle even though it wouldn't ( ).

This thread is almost as bad as the Sakura wankers saying she can take on Kakuzu just because of her new Yin seal ( ).
 

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Okay so Lee can get behind the hearts, cool, but if he throws a kunai it will slip through all those threads so the heart will be unharmed. Hidan used his ritual which allows his scythe to bypass any barriers which allowed him to directly attack the heart without actually attacking it.

Lee's kunais will most likely faze through Kakuzu's threads and if a heart gets destroyed, no big deal since Kakuzu has four more to go. Kunai thrown by Lee will have greater momentum but there is a maximum terminal velocity with which an object can be accelerated to since air resistance always creates terminal velocity. Hence an object falling from the sky can't accelerate to a speed near the speed of light.

This argument of Lee's kunai being too fast is just as bad as the arguments Tsunade fanboys have where they state that Tsunade can throw a rock at Deidara with her strength which would be too fast for Deidara to handle even though it wouldn't ( ).

This thread is almost as bad as the Sakura wankers saying she can take on Kakuzu just because of her new Yin seal ( ).

Agreed. There are only 3 K11 members who can defeat Kakazu and they are Naruto, Sasuke and Chouji.
 
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