Rinnengan is understimated these days and Rinnengan has no bounds [Please read first]

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Hello guys, I would like to talk about The Rinnegan. Arguably the most powerfull occular powers among the Three great occular power in Narutoverse.

Let's me get started:

Users of The Rinnegan across the entire Naruto series:

Hagoromo Ootsutsuki better known as Sage of six paths - Not too much is known about his mastery over the Rinnegan also use of Rinnegan. We only know That The Moon was created by Sage of six paths by using Chibaku Tensei thanks to Nagato, who compared his giant rock created by him with Chibiaku Tensei to Sage of six paths's Moon. However as First user of the Rinnegan Sage of six paths most likely had all six paths of Pein abiliites and more. Also his Mastery over Rinnegan was beyond anything we have seen until now, or at least we assume that.

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Madara Uchiha, The Second Sage of six paths - Sadly Madara Uchiha another original wielder of the Rinnegan shows us almost nothing interesting with Rinnegan. Only Preta Path to absorb chakra of the techniques from opponentes, aside from that Madara showed us another interesting abiltiy to pull the meteorite from the space... but we can consider it just as the Rinnegan ability because Madara used Sussano to weaves handseals while summoning meteorite.

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Obito Uchiha - Unoriginal wielder of The Rinnegan, who implanted one of Madara's Rinnegans in his eye. However even although Obito only posses one Rinnegan, he still shows great mastery over Outer Path of Rinnegan and also self claimed to be able to use Human Path.

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Nagato Uzumaki - Another Unoriginal wielder of the Rinnegan, who got Madara's Rinnegans implanted in his own eyes in very early age. Unlike all other Rinnegan users, Nagato proved his great mastery over Rinnegan also showing as all six paths of pein techniques on the manga panels.

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As we can see from list of The Rinnegan users above, Everyone from the Rinnegan users was hindered and limited by Kishi in the manga, except the Sage of six paths who we have to see his feats yet. Proofs, Madara as Original wielder of The Rinnegan had little to no time to discover and test more Rinnegan abilities so that why Madara keep using only Preta Path, which is sad and disappointing. Obito as unoriginal wielder of The Rinnegan only showed to us Outer Path of The Rinnegan, also self claimed to able to use Human Path. Of course the manga can hype Obito and Madara and say that they are capable of using all Rinnegan techniques, however lack on panel means little to nothing for us. Last and acutally The greatest wielder of The Rinnegan, even although unoriginal is Nagato Uzumaki. Nagato showed great mastery over Rinnegan but he lacks Perfect Uchiha and Senjuu DNA in body, that why his potential of Rinnegan possible to master was limited.

Now, let's assemble all facts, evidences.

Capability of the true master and Original wielder of The Rinnegan with all Rinnegan feats shown to us so far​

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^^ The Rinnegan just introduced into story was making great impression in the manga.

"Tool of Heaven... Tool of God that would bring salvation when the world was in Chaos... Or a Weapon that would destroy all Creation and Return Everything to dust. "

^^ These direct statements from the manga proves just how almighty and great The Rinnegan truelly is.

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^^ "The eyes of The "Rikudou Senin*" Enabled him to Master every technique I taught him" "Master the use of all six types of the chakra nature manipulation by himself.": water release, fire release, wind release, earth release, lightining release, Ying-Yang release.

"He possessed the ability to use any type of Ninjutsu he desires since He was 10 years old"



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^^ Six paths of The Rinnegan techniques

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^^ Uknown Rinnegan's technique.

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^^ Unnamed Rinnegan's technique, most likely Sealing Jutsu: Nine Phantom Dragons .

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^^ Madara's Tengai Shinsei - Meteorite technique

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^^ ability to summon Ten tails's empty shell.

The Rinnegan has no bounds/Unlimited potential of The Rinnengan​

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^^ Full Mastery over Rinnegan is not possible. Simple as that The Rinnegan offers so many abilities to learn/create for which the life span of humankind is too short. Even although I believe in Sage of six paths's Excellent mastery over the Rinnegan and use it on grand scale, then still there is always possible to learn more.

Ingredients necessary to unlock true potential of the Rinnegan known to us so far:
1) Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in your body:
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^^ As it is said above the True and Original wielder of The Rinnegan can only be someone with Senjuu and Uchiha DNA in his body as both Senjuu and Uchiha DNA as required to awake the Rinnegan.

2) Ten tails Power, considering that The Rinnegan is most likely derived from Ten tails, then it would make sense to claim that Rinnegan can be boosted with Ten tails powers and show new extent of power and mastery over it. The example could be Obito using boosted Deva Path ability to fly, however it is only assumption.

3) Sage mode/ Senjutsu, Ten tails itself is made of nature energy so that why Nature energy could be key to unlock greater extent of the Rinnegan power as well as mastery over it. Senjutsu can most likely also boost the Rinnegan.

Honest Estimation of The Rinnegan wielder with no limits put by Kishi :
For Kishi to show us justified power of the Rinnegan, he would have to:

- Implant Random Senjuu DNA in Random Uchiha man/woman with EMS(we know that Only Madara awake EMS and now Sasuke)

or

- Implant EMS's eyes in Random Senjuu man/woman

- then give them time to learn six paths of Rinnegan and six types of chakra nature

- Do NOT make them immobile, just average speed/reaction time could be fine as well
- Do NOT make their bodies, harmed or injured before showing us the power of The Rinnegan, just being healthy

- Do NOT make them unable to use Genjutsu or Taijutsu, just average Taijutsu and Genjutsu

and the wielder of the Rinnegan fullfilling or these rules above could considered as accurate wielder of the Rinnegan and could show proper abilities/ display of power. Of course it would NOT be TRUE MASTERY or FULL POWER of The Rinnegan but still would be nice.

I could call it true estimation of the average Rinnengan wielder.
Summary :
  • Rinnengan's potential for the original wielder of the Rinenngan is unlimited and has no bounds.
  • Kishi had to hinder each of the Rinnengan wielder because it would be overpowered
  • Ten tails powers, Senjutsu and Senjuu and Uchiha DNA can boost and unlock greater extent of the Rinnengan's power and mastery. The original wielder of The Rinnengan who has all these ingredients is unbeatable
  • The Rinnengan is greatly understimated due to poor use of it's ability and little to noone screen time in compare to the Sharingan
  • Noone of the wielders of the Rinnengan can truelly be called Master of the Rinnengan:
    Sage of six paths:
    - not showed feats yet, just assumptions which are most likely true.
    Madara:
    - lack of time to learn new technique and develop his Rinnengan
    Obito:
    - lack of time to learn new technique and develop his Rinnengan
    Nagato:
    - lack of the Perfect Senjuu and Uchiha DNA synchronization in body.
  • True and Original Master of the Rinnengan could use six types of chakra nature manipulation techniques: water release, fire release, wind release, earth release, lightining release, Ying - Yang release. Six paths of The Rinnengan: Asura Path, Human path, Deva Path, Naraka Path, Outer Path, Animal Path. Possible KKG, Kekkei Tota and maybe Onmyoudon as Obito has now due to ten tails powers boosting his Rinnengan.
  • Only Ten tails Host with Senjuu and Uchiha body able to enter Sennin mode who awake The Rinnengan by himself can display True might and power of The Rinnengan.

Thanks for reading !

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It's only "underestimated" because only like two or three people can actually use it to its full potential; Rikudou, Obito and Naruto, and this is because they are all Jinchuriki's.
 

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Who are underestimating the Rinnegan?
Madara learned The sage of the six paths' jutsu via The Uchiha's stone tablet, and taught Obito who then taught Nagato.
The Rinnegan requires a lot of chakra to use the Sage's jutsus.
Hence why Nagato was a beast with those eyes, he had them since he was a child. He was more adjusted to those eyes than Obito and/or Madara
If the manga says so, then it says so.
 

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if only shows us what it can do through Madara and Obito:devil:
 

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It's only "underestimated" because only like two or three people can actually use it to its full potential; Rikudou, Obito and Naruto, and this is because they are all Jinchuriki's.

Naruto never had the rinnegan, do you perhaps mean Nagato?
 

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Its not underestimated, it was never underestimated. Its the thought of more than one character having it that made it ''normal''.
 

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It's only "underestimated" because only like two or three people can actually use it to its full potential; Rikudou, Obito and Naruto, and this is because they are all Jinchuriki's.

true ;)

Who are underestimating the Rinnegan?
Madara learned The sage of the six paths' jutsu via The Uchiha's stone tablet, and taught Obito who then taught Nagato.
The Rinnegan requires a lot of chakra to use the Sage's jutsus.
Hence why Nagato was a beast with those eyes, he had them since he was a child. He was more adjusted to those eyes than Obito and/or Madara
If the manga says so, then it says so.

^^ Exatly, I agree ;)

if only shows us what it can do through Madara and Obito:devil:

^^ Yeah ,sadly it isn't used at all.

Its not underestimated, it was never underestimated. Its the thought of more than one character having it that made it ''normal''.

True ;)
 

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LMAO! What you have shown of, was just for show, to demonstrate the rinnegan's prowess. They are in no way invincible, and it is worthless to the story, LMAO!
 

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LMAO! What you have shown of, was just for show, to demonstrate the rinnegan's prowess. They are in no way invincible, and it is worthless to the story, LMAO!

are ?, No, could be ? yes

Reread my thread ;)
 

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It's only "underestimated" because only like two or three people can actually use it to its full potential; Rikudou, Obito and Naruto, and this is because they are all Jinchuriki's.

Naruto never had the rinnegan, do you perhaps mean Nagato?

No I mean Naruto because he has even more chakra and stamina than any other user bar Juubito and Rikudou. I know he hasn't had it.

Hmmm..., so did the assault in the leaf village by Pain not happened for you?
Other then that i have no idea what you're talking about or what your point is, if its valid thou
 

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Hmmm..., so did the assault in the leaf village by Pain not happened for you?
Other then that i have no idea what you're talking about or what your point is, if its valid thou

As a Jin, Naruto's abilities are increased due to Kurama's chakra influencing the power of techniques he uses. This is further proven when Naruto gives cloaks out and Kakashi is able to Kamui Bijuu's, Hinata is able to stop the arms of the Juubi, and Rock Lee is able to blitz Madara....

I've seen what Pein did to the village with his Chou Shinra Tensei. Given that fact, Pein/Nagato is a Village Buster. Naruto, would most likely be a country Buster with his Chou Shinra Tensei because of him being the Jinchuriki of Kurama.
 

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As far as you know, you think Nagato had has better mastery of the rinnegan.

Madara was able to use the ridukou sage techniques since he first planted senju DNA 80 years ago.

Obito was taught the rinnegan techniques without the rinnegan too.

The rinnegan a purpose is too strengthen the control of Gedo and use the shared six path. ( outsiders get access to sage techniques like Nagato did).

Do you wanna know why obito and madara aren't using all six paths Justus?

Because as uchiha's they really on their signature Justu...You cannot use rinnegan and sharingan at the same time.

If obito stayed strictly to rinnegan, he will be tangible and be open for an attack.
 

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I think your wrong about Madara not being able to use all the techniques, as well as Obito (before becoming Jin). I think they can use all 6 paths technique, the scenarios they are in unable them to use them, you know? like theres no point of Madara using shinra tensei because he has susanoo to protect him. theres also no reason for him to use shinra tensei because his susanoo sword can destroy all matter in one slash, truly the only thing beneficial to him in the asura path tech. Obito doesnt need to use shinra tensei bc his space time ninjustu is more versatile. but who knows what kishi reasons are. good thread tho man i also think the rinnegan is underrated
 

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It's not underrated. . not at all. . what is being underrated is the way to acquire it. . people think anyone with senju and uchiha DNA can get it. .theoretically thats correct but what people should think is the amount of time its gonna take for one to awaken it. . people should keep in mind that awakening rinnegan isn't as easy as awakening MS . .madara himself stated that he awakened it at the end of his life. .and yet people say sasuke will awaken it easily lol. .

So This is the only thing that people underrate when it comes to rinnegan concept as a whole . .
 
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It's not underrated. . not at all. . what is being underrated is the way to acquire it. . people think anyone with senju and uchiha DNA can get it. .theoretically thats correct but what people should think is the amount of time its gonna take for one to awaken it. . people should keep in mind that awakening rinnegan isn't as easy as awakening MS . .madara himself stated that he awakened it at the end of his life. .and yet people say sasuke will awaken it easily lol. .

So This is the only thing that people underrate when it comes to rinnegan concept as a whole . .


Having the sage techniques is easy with senju + uchiha, being of blood line.

It's getting the doujustu is what causes the dilemma.
 

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Having the sage techniques is easy with senju + uchiha, being of blood line.

It's getting the doujustu is what causes the dilemma.

What are you referring?. . even danzo had uchiha+senju powers. . did he use any sage techniques?
 

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nice thread
good job

Rinnegan is one of the best thing in the whole series
 
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