[Discussion] Rinnengan at full power - Eyes of God

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Good Thread. Well Explained Details and extended possibilities of Rinnegan.
 
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I actually was seeking answers of the rinnegan
in fact I actually believed the rinnegan we see now is fraudulent or imperfect.

The full power of the rinnegan wont be expressed through madara also I believe.

Reason why Madaras rinnegan is imperfect....
Madara never obtained the ancestral sharingan... the elder brothers dojutsu.

We have the So6P branching to the body and eyes of the sage. the elder brothers dojutsu was said to be the ancestor of all dojutsu, so why does the Byakugan have exclusive abilities to the rinnegan..?

Also the rinnegan doesn't stack sharingan abilities which is wierd. Nagato could use the six paths of pain but didn't express copy ability or any special mangekyou abilities and lacks approapiate genjutsu.

I believe that the ancestral sharingan is obtainable through byakugan + EMS somehow

I also beleive that maybe just maybe a form of the rinnegan would be obtainable for a byakugan user to obtain uzumaki and Senju DNA.

Just a theory
 

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Rinnegan was at full power when Nagato had it except he wasn't able to use it due to his bodys condition but I think Madara will show off how it's really done. :p

You may be right :), however I stick to my theory, that Transplanted Rinnengan can't reach full Potential Rinnengan given to orignal user of Rinnengan :)

Let's count on Madara xD

Thanks for you input :)

Good Thread. Well Explained Details and extended possibilities of Rinnegan.

Thanks a lot :), I am happy that you like it

I actually was seeking answers of the rinnegan
in fact I actually believed the rinnegan we see now is fraudulent or imperfect.

The full power of the rinnegan wont be expressed through madara also I believe.

Reason why Madaras rinnegan is imperfect....
Madara never obtained the ancestral sharingan... the elder brothers dojutsu.

We have the So6P branching to the body and eyes of the sage. the elder brothers dojutsu was said to be the ancestor of all dojutsu, so why does the Byakugan have exclusive abilities to the rinnegan..?

Also the rinnegan doesn't stack sharingan abilities which is wierd. Nagato could use the six paths of pain but didn't express copy ability or any special mangekyou abilities and lacks approapiate genjutsu.

I believe that the ancestral sharingan is obtainable through byakugan + EMS somehow

I also beleive that maybe just maybe a form of the rinnegan would be obtainable for a byakugan user to obtain uzumaki and Senju DNA.

Just a theory

Very interesting theory, my friend :)

Although, I could disagree with Nagato's part, because he isn't Uchiha so wasn't able to use sharingan copy ability or others as well as can't use genjutsu. Keep in mind too that Nagato has transplanted Rinnengan, he wasn't orignal user of Rinnengan who awake them himself. In my theory transplanted Rinnengan is only limited to eye he got transplanted(so earlier forms are unavaliable).

I hope Kishi includes Byakugan in some way to all three great dojutsu.

I have three theories about how byakugan would be included:

1: Byakugan user, who could be corrupted by hate and come in direct contact with bijuu could evolve in sharingan

2. As you said Byakugan could evolve in Elder son's spiral eye, and to reach full power of Rinnengan you have to merge your EMS with Elder son's spiral eye somehow, before ascend it to Rinnengan. If you got Rinnengan already from sharingan(see Madara), then you are unable to get full power of Rinnengan, cause you are unable to merge your EMS with Elder son's spiral eye

3: You have to evolve your eye from Byakugan to reach full power of Rinnengan. It could go like that :

Byakugan->sharingan(corrupted byakugan by tailed beast chakra and hate)->MS(expierience of someone death, strong emotion)->EMS(transplant brothers/sisters MS eyes in your own)-> Elder son's spiral eye -> Rinnengan(Ancient)

Maybe Sage of six paths possesed all Byakugan, sharingan and Rinnengan as one ultimate eye. Maybe it is difference between (SOSP) Rinnengan and Current Rinnengan we see(imperfect) :)

What do you think ?

Thanks a lot for your input :)
 

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I think the same thing, I have often pondered the thought that the original(or true) Rinnengan was a combination of the Byakugan and Sharingan. As you stated the elder son had spirals, which is a lot different to the rings that the current Rinnengan has showen and as everyone keeps saying. Nothing in Naruto happens without a reason, so imo there must be a reason that the original is different to the current one. This thread still remains a great and interesting read well done KCM:)
 

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I think the same thing, I have often pondered the thought that the original(or true) Rinnengan was a combination of the Byakugan and Sharingan. As you stated the elder son had spirals, which is a lot different to the rings that the current Rinnengan has showen and as everyone keeps saying. Nothing in Naruto happens without a reason, so imo there must be a reason that the original is different to the current one. This thread still remains a great and interesting read well done KCM:)

great minds think alike :)

Thanks a lot for your respect to my Thread :)
 

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True:) it also brings up many other questions, like why was the hidden cloud village so interested in just the Byakugan? when the Leaf also had the Sharingan. Yet they were always after the Byakugan, what is it that they know about it? that makes it so important. It also seems strange that there are 3 major eye dohjutsu's, yet only 2 of them so far have been linked(Sharingan and Rinnengan) so somwhere the 3rd one must play a role. If 2 of them are linked in some way then it is highly likely that the 3rd one is going to fit in there somewhere as well.
 

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SO6P could do any jutsu without limitation
 

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Omg, how can some ppl be so gullible. Rinnengan= God's chisel and stone. That's that. Most obviously from the roots, all the jutsu have sprained.

Though the question remains, are there any limitations for Madara right now? Obviously not the case with chakra, I can see him using Rinni with full control. Unless the author states in the future otherwise :p
 

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True:) it also brings up many other questions, like why was the hidden cloud village so interested in just the Byakugan? when the Leaf also had the Sharingan. Yet they were always after the Byakugan, what is it that they know about it? that makes it so important. It also seems strange that there are 3 major eye dohjutsu's, yet only 2 of them so far have been linked(Sharingan and Rinnengan) so somwhere the 3rd one must play a role. If 2 of them are linked in some way then it is highly likely that the 3rd one is going to fit in there somewhere as well.

Yeah, it bring much more unanswered questions like : why was the hidden cloud village so interested in just the Byakugan? (As you said). I believe Kishi will find way to link all three great doujutsu by linking Byakugan somewhere well Rinnengan and Sharingan or by showing their possible influences made to each other. :)


SO6P could do any jutsu without limitation

Thanks for you input, and agree completly. I always imagine Sage of six paths as God of Narutoverse with ulimited potenial, only behind juubi, who overpower Sage of six paths by sheer power and amount of chakra.

By Juubi I mean Perfect full power form of Juubi(against SOSP)

Omg, how can some ppl be so gullible. Rinnengan= God's chisel and stone. That's that. Most obviously from the roots, all the jutsu have sprained.

Though the question remains, are there any limitations for Madara right now? Obviously not the case with chakra, I can see him using Rinni with full control. Unless the author states in the future otherwise :p

I am not sure if you agree with mine completly, but you have good pont with all jutsu being sprained from roots.

I agree with you statement about Madara, he could be invincible but it is up to Kishi.

Thanks for you input :)
 

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