[Theory] Rinnegan's secret TRUTH (weak)

[laxus]

you're linking misunderstood things to other things so your theory is irrelevent

 

[Inception]

Nagato=pure rinnegan user whos mastered the rinnegan for over 30+ years his chibaku tensei would be bigger then a village if he was doing it himself through deva he trapped the 9 tails

Rinnegan>EMS shariingan>MS sharringan

Theres a reason why the sage of 6 paths had the rinnegan

Nagato not crippled would beat anyone featured fully in the manga

Rinnegan is known to be the strongest Dojutsu, when the So6P had it .

The So6P was the founder of the arts of ninjutsu, he created the ninja world. Rinnegan isn't the only "tool" he had so will you kindly stop repeatedly stating that So6P was all Rinnegan.

 

[Inception]

Well the manga clearly states that SO6P had 2 sons the elder son's ofspring became known as Uchiha and the younger's as Senju so no there aren't any other bloodlines closer than those two. ANY OTHER BLOODLINES WOULD BE COUSINS AT BEST>!

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Where does it say that the elder was Uchiha and younger was Senju or that they were the closest bloodlines to the Sage? All he states is that they were descendents of the brothers. Last I checked, Uzumaki were also close relatives of Senju so that must mean they're also connected to the So6P. Stop bullshitting.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

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Where does it say that the elder was Uchiha and younger was Senju or that they were the closest bloodlines to the Sage? All he states is that they were descendents of the brothers. Last I checked, Uzumaki were also close relatives of Senju so that must mean they're also connected to the So6P. Stop bullshitting.

Dude in the page you JUST POSTED it says "the decendant of the elder were called UCHIHA" You CAN READ RIGHT?

And you DO KNOW COUSINS ARE STILL RELATIVES RIGHT? I have NEVER said Uzumaki's AREN'T related to SO6P! THEY ARE! But if they are a relative of Senju who is a relative of the younger son of SO6P thats a 3 degree seperation versus a 2 degree seperation of Senju. THATS MORE DISTANT THAN SENJU.....IT'S 1ST GRADE MATH DUDE!!! LEARN IT!!!

 

[PositiveEmotions]

you guys are wrong the elder had the sage's spiritual energy and the younger had the sages eyes and they both were head to head bc s6op wanted the elder to b in charger idr of what but the younnger didnt approve so they fought it b the other way around

 

[PositiveEmotions]

ok nvm its the younger who was suited for the job
not the elder

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Dude in the page you JUST POSTED it says "the decendant of the elder were called UCHIHA" You CAN READ RIGHT?

And you DO KNOW COUSINS ARE STILL RELATIVES RIGHT? I have NEVER said Uzumaki's AREN'T related to SO6P! THEY ARE! But if they are a relative of Senju who is a relative of the younger son of SO6P thats a 3 degree seperation versus a 2 degree seperation of Senju. THATS MORE DISTANT THAN SENJU.....IT'S 1ST GRADE MATH DUDE!!! LEARN IT!!!

as u can see the elder became the uchiha clan and the senju of course became the senju clan

 

[Inception]

Dude in the page you JUST POSTED it says "the decendant of the elder where called UCHIHA" You CAN READ RIGHT?

And you DO KNOW COUSINS ARE STILL RELATIVES RIGHT? I have NEVER said Uzumaki's AREN'T related to SO6P! THEY ARE! But if they are a relative of Senju who is a relative of the younger son of SO6P thats a 3 degree seperation versus a 2 degree seperation of Senju. THATS MORE DISTANT THAN SENJU.....IT'S 1ST GRADE MATH DUDE!!! LEARN IT!!!

Where does it say that the elder was Uchiha and younger was Senju or that they were the closest bloodlines to the Sage?

Answer my question: you stated Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the So6P. Just because Uzumaki are relatives of Senju doesn't make them the "3rd" cousin. They could very well be the as closely related to So6P as Senju and Uchiha. Not much is known about them except they have extremely long lives, high chakra and specialize in sealing techniques.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

Where does it say that the elder was Uchiha and younger was Senju or that they were the closest bloodlines to the Sage?

Answer my question: you stated Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the So6P. Just because Uzumaki are relatives of Senju doesn't make them the "3rd" cousin. They could very well be the as closely related to So6P as Senju and Uchiha. Not much is known about them except they have extremely long lives, high chakra and specialize in sealing techniques.

Well to be called "related to the Senju clan" and not be described as "related to the younger son" means the Senju's were around first and the Uzumaki's are a branch family of them. Like Neji is on a branch of the Hyuuga family and he is a cousin. That is how family trees work. A "relative" of a family is removed as at least 3rd cousins.

And it says elder=uchiha in the 4th frame

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Where does it say that the elder was Uchiha and younger was Senju or that they were the closest bloodlines to the Sage?

Answer my question: you stated Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the So6P. Just because Uzumaki are relatives of Senju doesn't make them the "3rd" cousin. They could very well be the as closely related to So6P as Senju and Uchiha. Not much is known about them except they have extremely long lives, high chakra and specialize in sealing techniques.

dude y r u even discussing this with that guy

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it clearly says the elder is the relative of the originala elder which later on became the uchiha and senju hashirama became the senju which is the relative of the younger

 

[Inception]

dude y r u even discussing this with that guy

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it clearly says the elder is the relative of the originala elder which later on became the uchiha and senju hashirama became the senju which is the relative of the younger

It says descendents of the elders and younger. I acknowledged that but where does it say that they were the only and closest descendents? It doesn't say they are the closest bloodlines to So6P.

You're assuming Uchiha and Senju are the two closest descendents when I'm saying they are not because all it mentions in the manga is that they are descendents and nothing else. Do you understand what I'm saying?

edit: That being said, I am assuming (just as you are by saying Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the Sage) that Uzumaki is more closely related to the Sage than both Senju and Uchiha. We don't know much about the Uzumaki except about their immense chakra and spiritual energy (long lives) which is also what the Sage's younger brother was blessed with.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

It says descendents of the elders and younger. I acknowledged that but where does it say that they were the only and closest descendents? It doesn't say they are the closest bloodlines to So6P.

You're assuming Uchiha and Senju are the two closest descendents when I'm saying they are not because all it mentions in the manga is that they are descendents and nothing else. Do you understand what I'm saying?

edit: That being said, I am assuming (just as you are by saying Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the Sage) that Uzumaki is more closely related to the Sage than both Senju and Uchiha. We don't know much about the Uzumaki except about their immense chakra and spiritual energy (long lives) which is also what the Sage's younger brother was blessed with.

i do understand what u r saying but its common sense that their pretty much relatives from what i can tell from the manga harshirama is basically the younger of the son of s6op and madara uchiha is the elder the relative of the elder son of the s6op dude its common sense but thats my point of view anyways

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

It says descendents of the elders and younger. I acknowledged that but where does it say that they were the only and closest descendents? It doesn't say they are the closest bloodlines to So6P.

You're assuming Uchiha and Senju are the two closest descendents when I'm saying they are not because all it mentions in the manga is that they are descendents and nothing else. Do you understand what I'm saying?

edit: That being said, I am assuming (just as you are by saying Uchiha and Senju are the closest bloodlines to the Sage) that Uzumaki is more closely related to the Sage than both Senju and Uchiha. We don't know much about the Uzumaki except about their immense chakra and spiritual energy (long lives) which is also what the Sage's younger brother was blessed with.

It says THE decendants of the elder are known as Uchiha not SOME OF the decendants. And the younger= SenjuThats pretty obvious wording. But families do branch out. The Uzumaki's are one of those branches. The Gin/Kin brothers were said to be distantly related to the SO6P too as they survived EATING KYUUBI MEAT!! But they were DISTANTLY RELATED! Thats enough to make you MORE THAN NORMAL THEN! And the manga says Uzumaki's are DISTANT relatives of SENJU otherwise HOW GROSS WOULD IT BE THAT SENJU HASHIRAMA MARRIED AN UZUMAKI?!?

Face it dude.... You are wrong on this one....

 

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It says THE decendants of the elder are known as Uchiha not SOME OF the decendants. And the younger= SenjuThats pretty obvious wording. But families do branch out. The Uzumaki's are one of those branches. The Gin/Kin brothers were said to be distantly related to the SO6P too as they survived EATING KYUUBI MEAT!! But they were DISTANTLY RELATED! Thats enough to make you MORE THAN NORMAL THEN! And the manga says Uzumaki's are DISTANT relatives of SENJU otherwise HOW GROSS WOULD IT BE THAT SENJU HASHIRAMA MARRIED AN UZUMAKI?!?

Face it dude.... You are wrong on this one....

have you not relize what uzumaki's are they are pratically a part of the sage like the senju

you know that uchiha's marry each other right

 

[PositiveEmotions]

It says THE decendants of the elder are known as Uchiha not SOME OF the decendants. And the younger= SenjuThats pretty obvious wording. But families do branch out. The Uzumaki's are one of those branches. The Gin/Kin brothers were said to be distantly related to the SO6P too as they survived EATING KYUUBI MEAT!! But they were DISTANTLY RELATED! Thats enough to make you MORE THAN NORMAL THEN! And the manga says Uzumaki's are DISTANT relatives of SENJU otherwise HOW GROSS WOULD IT BE THAT SENJU HASHIRAMA MARRIED AN UZUMAKI?!?

Face it dude.... You are wrong on this one....

you forgot to mention that senju started the organization of konoha and konaha and the edy village were great shinobis and friends

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

i do understand what u r saying but its common sense that their pretty much relatives from what i can tell from the manga harshirama is basically the younger of the son of s6op and madara uchiha is the elder the relative of the elder son of the s6op dude its common sense but thats my point of view anyways

No there had to be generations in between them since SO6P slipped into legend in that time AND if Madara was his son then where did all the REST of the Uchiha clan come from? There had to be time for the family to grow. The son had to have say, 5 kids, each of them 5, each of them 5, and thats 155 people right there but thats also 3 generations. There had to be more cuz the scroll shown had like 9 on it!

 

[PositiveEmotions]

No there had to be generations in between them since SO6P slipped into legend in that time AND if Madara was his son then where did all the REST of the Uchiha clan come from? There had to be time for the family to grow. The son had to have say, 5 kids, each of them 5, each of them 5, and thats 155 people right there but thats also 3 generations. There had to be more cuz the scroll shown had like 9 on it!

it started with the younger brother and the elder dude from there the generations kept growing and growing naruto has the will power of the senju and sasuke with the uchiha of course lol

 

[Inception]

It says THE decendants of the elder are known as Uchiha not SOME OF the decendants. And the younger= SenjuThats pretty obvious wording. But families do branch out. The Uzumaki's are one of those branches. The Gin/Kin brothers were said to be distantly related to the SO6P too as they survived EATING KYUUBI MEAT!! But they were DISTANTLY RELATED! Thats enough to make you MORE THAN NORMAL THEN! And the manga says Uzumaki's are DISTANT relatives of SENJU otherwise HOW GROSS WOULD IT BE THAT SENJU HASHIRAMA MARRIED AN UZUMAKI?!?

Face it dude.... You are wrong on this one....

I'm not wrong in any way. I already told you I acknowledged that Uchiha and Senju are descendents of the elder and younger brother.

It does not say that they are the only two descendents and it doesn't even say they are direct descendents or closest. All it states is that they are descendents. I'm saying that they are not the only close bloodlines to the So6P where you are clearly disagreeing.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

have you not relize what uzumaki's are they are pratically a part of the sage like the senju

you know that uchiha's marry each other right

Yes i know the Uzumaki are related but the TWO MAIN BLOODLINES ARE UCHIHA AND SENJU.

And Uchiha marrying each other? Maybe. If they are far enough removed from each other (i.e. 2nd cousins) But also can you provide a reference of that happening?

More proof of the TWO MAIN BLOODLINES:

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Uchiha and Senju, thats the power of the SO6P! They didn't say you NEEDED Uzumaki to gain his power. Now i tend to think we'll find out that Uzumaki's are ALSO related to Uchiha and thats how Nagato was able to use this "incomplete" form of rinnegan (he was closely enough related to the two lines to use some of SO6P's power but not everything i.e. izanagi)

But there you have it straight from the manga dude! Uchiha and Senju bloodlines are the TWO KEYS TO SO6P!!!

 

[PositiveEmotions]

wtf i do not remember uzumaki being related to senju and uchiha i think is jst the senju alone