Rinnegan should have been a Uzumaki trait.

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Uzumaki are related to the Senju, so of course the have powerful bodies. I have no idea what you are even trying to rebuttal in this response, you do realize how powerful Naruto is in tank format?

An Uzumaki, as shown have more than just powerful seals that are needed to touch. We have not seen a fully mastered Uzumaki-clan member but to say they don't have exceptional speed is ridiculous. We were shown just how OP fuuinjutsu is = Flying Thunder God.

Who is to say the Uzumaki don't have special techniques of their own?

The Uzumaki are distant relatives.

You can't use Naruto as the face for the average Uzumaki's power, otherwise you could also say that Sasuke or Madara also accurately represents the average Uchiha's eye power. It's not ridiculous to say they don't have exceptional speed at all, out of all of them, Naruto is the only to show exceptional speed but he's many times more powerful than average.

As for FTG, that's Tobirama's creation and completely unrelated to them.
 

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I understand what you mean , but i just got sick of all the uchiha nonsense ,all these HAX moves out of no where
and finally got rinnegan as well ?

seems like the uchiha's get a free pass at everything

My fav is prob Kakashi ? hes the only real ninja in the show.

if you don't count kamui then yes kakashi is the only REAL ninja in the show
 

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Naruto as an uzumaki proved himself by becoming ashura's rinnecration therefore uzumaki=uchiha , even nagato who's uzumaki and not the orginal eye owner mastered the rinngan completely , he even used some techniques that even the original owner like madara didn't use (shira tensi and bansho tense)

Excatly,thank you.
 

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I understand what you mean , but i just got sick of all the uchiha nonsense ,all these HAX moves out of no where
and finally got rinnegan as well ?

seems like the uchiha's get a free pass at everything

My fav is prob Kakashi ? hes the only real ninja in the show.

Argues about uchiha's get a free pass at everything, ''the only real ninja n the show is kakashi''

Kakashi got a free pass of an uchiha, therefore, he's not the ''real ninja'' of the show because of the free pass.

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Naruto as an uzumaki proved himself by becoming ashura's rinnecration therefore uzumaki=uchiha , even nagato who's uzumaki and not the orginal eye owner mastered the rinngan completely , he even used some techniques that even the original owner like madara didn't use (shira tensi and bansho tense)

if uzumaki = uchiha naruto wouldn't need a bijuu to keep up with sasuke.

just look at hashirama and tibirama now those are real senju but take away tailed beasts from naruto and he's no match for the average uchiha the only reason ashura is in naruto cuz the senju clan is no more so the uzumaki were he's only option.
 

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The Uzumaki are distant relatives.

You can't use Naruto as the face for the average Uzumaki's power, otherwise you could also say that Sasuke or Madara also accurately represents the average Uchiha's eye power. It's not ridiculous to say they don't have exceptional speed at all, out of all of them, Naruto is the only to show exceptional speed but he's many times more powerful than average.

As for FTG, that's Tobirama's creation and completely unrelated to them.

Incorrect.

All Uzumaki are shown to have incredible body and physical prowess, in fact Naruto is actually weaker than most Uzumaki we have seen thus far.

His own mother lost Kurama during child-birth but still had enough to keep going on, while Naruto fainted right after losing Kurama.
We have not seen an Uzumaki who was fully trained by the clan so saying whether they don't have speed is still ridiculous. Don't fight the plot in where the author had barely given information, it's either yes or no.

Also incorrect. Tobidara created Flying Thunder God with powerful seals, as shown in the Manga the Flying Thunder God of Minato's version uses even more powerful seals (Cough Uzumaki), but what has yet to be confirmed is whether or not Tobirama learned from them aswell.

The reaper Death seal is an Uzumaki technique, as Orochimaru needed it to get to the Uzumaki shrine. Hiruzen also learned that technique, Minato aswell. So you can clearly see the foreshadowing here.

The Uzumaki are real monsters.
 
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Meh I guess

Uzumaki's are only bulky when they get paired with something. Ex kyuubi, rennigan
 

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Argues about uchiha's get a free pass at everything, ''the only real ninja n the show is kakashi''

Kakashi got a free pass of an uchiha, therefore, he's not the ''real ninja'' of the show because of the free pass.

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hmm Kakashi didn't get a free pass , he always got his ass handed to him ,every time i see his battles ,hes always on the edge,
taijutsu and strategy was mostly his thing,even that damn mask he wears resembles a ninja.

Even if he didn't get sharingan he would still be strong and as a popular character in naruto.
I don't hate the uchiha's i just dont like madara and now sasuke having rinnegan ,
out of all the uchiha's i like shishui the most,too bad we never got to see more of him.
 

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hmm Kakashi didn't get a free pass , he always got his ass handed to him ,every time i see his battles ,hes always on the edge,
taijutsu and strategy was mostly his thing,even that damn mask he wears resembles a ninja.

Even if he didn't get sharingan he would still be strong and as a popular character in naruto.
I don't hate the uchiha's i just dont like madara and now sasuke having rinnegan ,
out of all the uchiha's i like shishui the most,too bad we never got to see more of him.

Free pass = No work whatsoever, without the sharingan he wouldn't be that strong haha. Gai would have annihilated him in no time in every fight that they had before, thanks for the sharingan, he was able to compete against a taijutsu user.
 

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lol look how much did the rinnegan ****ed up nagato on top of all that nagato was never able to use all six paths in one body unlike madara (edo doesn't count since they don't feel pain or have chakra so he was able to do that) and also he wasn't able to use limbo hell even sasuke who had the rinnegan for around an hour did 9 CT and each one of them are better than the one he used against an eight tailed kyuubi.

What are you talking about? Nagato could use all rinngan technique in 1 body , and edo tensi didn't do shit except for giving him infinite chakra, and of course he won't use limbo it's not a six paths technique only tge original user can use it , and sasuke made 9 CT's cause he had rikudo chakra without it I doubt if he even does more than 2 besides nagato CT was much bigger than sasuke's amd the reason he captured the kyuubi is because he had him in genjutsu so he couldn't resist if he didn't genjutsu them kurama would've escaped that small CT, and what ****ed up nagato is him using gedo mazo constantly(as you know it takes life force) l

How do I put this, your post is completely wrong
 

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Meh I guess

Uzumaki's are only bulky when they get paired with something. Ex kyuubi, rennigan

I was catching up on the Uzumaki knoweldge a few days ago.

They were all killed because the other clan(s) during the war feared the threat, so a large group of multi-talented shinobi (I can only assume clan's from different parts of the world banded together) to destroy them.

Nah the Uzumaki are powerful alone. We shall see a small glimpse of them in Naruto's children. Hopefully, because the Uzumkai is the only clan left yet to be explained (Hyuuga's time is coming now). The Uchiha clan hype is pretty much over, we've seen about everything.
 

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Hey if any of Naruto's kids actually ends up with a byakugan (Kaguya had 1 out of 3 born with it, so Naruto could always have more if his current ones don't already have it), then they'd have the body along with one of the great dojutsu. A chakra beast with byakugan, what would that give them? A range beyond that of any other byakugan user before them? An ultimate defense that's larger, or even more impenetrable? Gentle fist strikes that doesn't just target internal organs, but causes the entire victim to explode.
 

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Hey if any of Naruto's kids actually ends up with a byakugan (Kaguya had 1 out of 3 born with it, so Naruto could always have more), then they'd have the body along with one of the great dojutsu. A chakra beast with byakugan, what would that give them? A range beyond that of any other byakugan user before them? An ultimate defense that's larger, or even more impenetrable? Gentle fist strikes that doesn't just target internal organs, but causes the entire victim to explode.

Pseudo jin. Uzumaki Dna. Hyuga Dna. Sage Mode. Able to fuse with ma and pa.

Kage level material confirmed.
 

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if uzumaki = uchiha naruto wouldn't need a bijuu to keep up with sasuke.

just look at hashirama and tibirama now those are real senju but take away tailed beasts from naruto and he's no match for the average uchiha the only reason ashura is in naruto cuz the senju clan is no more so the uzumaki were he's only option.

Why you acting like saskue didn't have free power up? Ems is restructed since that's itachi's credit, SM naruto>=<MS sasuke
 

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I always thought of the idea of madara having the rinnegan was stupid.
The Sharingan was perfect the way it was and it defined sasuke and all the uchiha's.

Sharingan powers were nearly limitless with overkill moves like susanno and izanami/gi
wtf did madara need rinnegan for in the manga ?
The moons eye plan should have just required a EMS eye.

Nagato was the 1st person we meet with Rinnegan and he was the strongest and one of the most important
enemies for naruto and nagato was a uzumaki.

The setup was perfect ,yahiko had the rinnegan projected on to him ,who also looked similar to naruto,we also find out how useful and powerful the uzumaki clan was.
Down the road yet again we get hints on how naruto was the So6p reincarnation and that should have been the deal breaker for naruto with a rinnegan.

The uzumaki clan is still a mystery to this day and just disappeared from history ,Kishi should have showed that every few generations there is a Rinnegan user born into the clan and that's why they got slaughtered by the uchiha clan and senju clan from fear.

I would have loved to see naruto realise his clan were wiped out by the uchiha/senju clan.
So making naruto saving and forgiving the world would be soo much more better/emotional.

He truly would have been the "Gutsy Ninja" from jiraiya's book.

That makes no sense. If only the Mangekyou and a moon were required for Infinite Tsukuyomi, then Madara could have accomplished it in his first life.
 

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if uzumaki = uchiha naruto wouldn't need a bijuu to keep up with sasuke.

just look at hashirama and tibirama now those are real senju but take away tailed beasts from naruto and he's no match for the average uchiha the only reason ashura is in naruto cuz the senju clan is no more so the uzumaki were he's only option.

IF you took the tailed beasts from naruto ,naruto still would have sage mode with him , which is more then enough to go toe to toe with anyone.I feel that naruto's sage mode hasn't even been pushed far enough since he always depended on nine tails chakra by default.

Also we don't really know how much chakra naruto really has ,the only info we got was from kakshi which stated that he had a couple of x more chakra then himself.
Naruto would be able to handle himself quite well without sage mode or 9 tails,but he wouldn't be able to spam shadow clones all the time and use 100 rasengans as he pleases , so all he really needs is to be very fast like his father and finish hes enemies off.
 

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That makes no sense. If only the Mangekyou and a moon were required for Infinite Tsukuyomi, then Madara could have accomplished it in his first life.

Yea but kishi could have made it so that hashirama stopped madara from using the moons eye plan .

easy solved.
 

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What are you talking about? Nagato could use all rinngan technique in 1 body , and edo tensi didn't do shit except for giving him infinite chakra, and of course he won't use limbo it's not a six paths technique only tge original user can use it , and sasuke made 9 CT's cause he had rikudo chakra without it I doubt if he even does more than 2 besides nagato CT was much bigger than sasuke's amd the reason he captured the kyuubi is because he had him in genjutsu so he couldn't resist if he didn't genjutsu them kurama would've escaped that small CT, and what ****ed up nagato is him using gedo mazo constantly(as you know it takes life force) l

How do I put this, your post is completely wrong

show when did nagato use all rinnegan tech in one body pre edo plus he never used limbo because he is not skilled with it even obito who is one of the most experts in sharingan and rinnegan said that the true power of the eyes can only be unleashed by the original user that's why he couldn't use susanoo and limbo.

face it the strongest thing an uzumaki has is chakra chains which don't get me wrong are OP too but in front of the uchiha's genjutsu and mangekyo sharingan skills (amaterasu almost killed a full uzumaki karin kamui kills them susanoo smashes them tsukiyomi kotomatsukami etc etc)

the only real rivals for the uchiha are jins and senju seriously the uzumaki are about as strong as the hyuuga for the love of god
the strongest uzumaki is naruto who's power is almost completely drawn from his bijuu . so much for uzumaki power.
 

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Why you acting like saskue didn't have free power up? Ems is restructed since that's itachi's credit, SM naruto>=<MS sasuke

free? sasuke wasted his entire life trying to beat itachi and a little prize won't hurt for defeating him and besides this is not the point

my point is that the average uchiha> the average uzumaki

hebi sasuke negs naruto SM with genjutsu if you were to remove the mangekyo and the kyuubi
 

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IF you took the tailed beasts from naruto ,naruto still would have sage mode with him , which is more then enough to go toe to toe with anyone.I feel that naruto's sage mode hasn't even been pushed far enough since he always depended on nine tails chakra by default.

Also we don't really know how much chakra naruto really has ,the only info we got was from kakshi which stated that he had a couple of x more chakra then himself.
Naruto would be able to handle himself quite well without sage mode or 9 tails,but he wouldn't be able to spam shadow clones all the time and use 100 rasengans as he pleases , so all he really needs is to be very fast like his father and finish hes enemies off.

the average uchiha can defeat SM naruto easily with genjutsu bro if you take the kyuubi away from him. just look itachi's finger genjutsu
 
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