Rinnegan Sasuke vs SM Hashirama

[Haizaki]

Sasuke does not have Rikudo chakra. Downscale his attacks and jutsus from that, but he keeps them.


Feel free to continue your arguments here.

Restrictions: Unorthodox.

 

[Rιver]

Smh this guy.

 

[Haizaki]

Smh this guy.

Dude please shut up if you're not dropping relevant points ok? Not sure why you closed it. Btw Ma and Pa are SM users lmfaoo...Amateur.

 

[Chīkara]

Why is the other 1 closed, finally a heated debate in the vs section and it's closed... lol.

Waltz vs KG was quite interesting.

 

[Haizaki]

Why is the other 1 closed, finally a heated debate in the vs section and it's closed... lol.

Waltz vs KG was quite interesting.

Exactly smh..This River clown closed it for some unknown reason. I was reading the debate as well and I even had to respond to KidGamer.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Unrestrict Unorthodox and Sasuke wins.

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Smh. Thanks for remaking this shit bro. Not sure why it was closed down.

The logic and reason behind it says this: If there is every a case regarding of uncertainty in a Jutsu then what Cannon say's goes.

Amaterasu may not be as hot as the sun buts it's actual temperature is still uncertain. Since we are uncertain of it's actual temperature and thefore cannot place figures on it as that would be an assertion then what Cannon (the databook) says ALWAYS triumphs and it is therefore as hot as the sun.


There in his statement fails proportionally because Amaterasu is not as hot as the Sun.

Wrong. Can you please stop acting like you are too daft to understand simple logic? Can you stop trying your hardest to deny canonical statements? Because you look a fool. You honestly look like a fool.

The question is "Is Amaterasu as hot as the sun?".

Manga feats show that it can't be as hot as the sun, so there is no uncertainty on that subject. What your example addresses is:

"How hot is Amaterasu?"

But I never asked that question nor do I care. Can you understand this? Or do I have to make it even simpler than that.

Another example of why that logic fails:

The number of Jutsu Hiruzen has is still uncertain. Since we are uncertain about the number of Jutsu he has we therefore cannot place a figure on it as that would be an assertion. (Interjecting KG's Logic) Because Orochimaru and the Databook (cannon) stated that he knew all the Jutsu of the leaf; then that will always trump the uncertainty and Hiruzen has in his arsenal every single Jutsu of Konoha.

There in his statement fails yet again because it is impossible for Hiruzen to know every single Jutsu within Konoha.

No, it actually isn't. The only thing debatable is "What are the leaf's jutsu?".

Once again. Terrible example.

Another example of why that logic fails:

The uncertain assertion that the Blunt-Sword cannot crush all defenses cannot be made because the Manga and Databook (Cannon) states that it crushes all defenses; therefore it can because what Cannon say's ALWAYStriumphs uncertain assertion.

The Logic here once more fails because it applies the No limits fallacy to the Blunt sword.

Feel me?

Wrong. Because once again, that is a hyperbolic exaggeration of it's abilities. Shinra Tensei having a 5 second cooldown applies no sort of logical fallacy nor is it an exaggeration thus your example is once again, terrible. Terrible examples and a terrible attempt.

Why can't you just do us both a favor and stop denying Manga canon? Cause that is literally all you are doing at this point. Manga has stated that Deva has a 5 second cooldown. DB has reinforced that. You have given me no real reason to deny it's validity besides:

-Terrible interpretations of Manga canon.
-Shit examples that have nothing to do with Shinra Tensei.
-Other reasoning that'd lead me to question every piece of information from the DB without reason.

You do what you do because you don't want to admit you are wrong, and it's pathetic. Let's just cut the bull.

-You don't have a real reason as to why Sasuke wins, aside from all the speculative nonsense you were spouting earlier.

-Now you are trying to deny that ST has a 5 second cooldown based on OTHER pieces of info being incorrect, despite there being NO proof that THIS piece of info is false.


So no, I don't feel you. In fact, do you feel me? Cause this is crazy.

I come back on NB, and what do I see ?

This wonderful thread

Sasuke wins... low-med diff

Why did we let Amaterasu in DoU again? :lol

 

[Lord Tywin]

Every technique non-boosted Sasuke has is ass compared to Hashirama's. It comes down to Amenotejikara, which SM Hashi should be able to counter it.

 

[Chīkara]

Every technique non-boosted Sasuke has is ass compared to Hashirama's. It comes down to Amenotejikara, which SM Hashi should be able to counter it.

Simply incorrect, Only gods are able to match Amenotejikara. This can be backed up by this:

-> Only Kaguya was able to react on Sasuke's Amenotejikara and was forced to switch dimensions so she could escape. [

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-> Naruto Who has sensing capabilities and is faster in terms of reaction speed, base speed, etc. and is overall faster than Hashirama got hit [

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Are you telling me that Hashirama is faster than a RSM Naruto ?
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[Lord Tywin]

Simply incorrect, Only gods are able to match Amenotejikara. This can be backed up by this:

-> Only Kaguya was able to react on Sasuke's Amenotejikara and was forced to switch dimensions so she could escape. [

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-> Naruto Who has sensing capabilities and is faster in terms of reaction speed, base speed, etc. and is overall faster than Hashirama got hit [

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Are you telling me that Hashirama is faster than a RSM Naruto ?
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Did you missed when I said "non-boosted" Sasuke? All you showed was Sasuke's feats with Rikudo's chakra.

 

[NSUNSR]

BT can be used without a 5 second cooldown. Manga has only stated, that ST has a cooldown. We have also seen Nagato use two BT's one after another.

OT: SM Hashirama takes this.

 

[KeyofDestiny]

BT can be used without a 5 second cooldown. Manga has only stated, that ST has a cooldown. We have also seen Nagato use two BT's one after another.

OT: SM Hashirama takes this.

Nagato only attracted two items instead of one. He didn't use BT in succession.

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[Unorthodox]

Damn I soloed that last thread lol ?????? tac so smart

 

[Unorthodox]

Damn I soloed that last thread lol ? tac so smart

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lol KG how long did they ban you?

Also Sasuke wins multiple debaters shitted on KG to prove this point.

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Lol KG how long did they ban you?

Also Sasuke wins multiple debaters shitted on KG to prove this point.

You mean Waltz, who dropped the main argument and started to say ST doesn't have a cooldown? Or are you referring to the best buds of NB (You and unorhodox) who kept giving Sasuke boosted feats?

This is why illiterates shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You mean Waltz, who dropped the main argument and started to say ST doesn't have a cooldown? Or are you referring to the best buds of NB (You and unorhodox) who kept giving Sasuke boosted feats?

This is why illiterates shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

No you just got shitted on simple. Your banned what are you doing on NB you need the break because you rage out when you get shitted on simple. Also keep the insults coming im going to make sure your IP is banned next.

 

[King Of Pop]

i was thoroughly enjoying the previous one. hope the debate continues

 

[Chīkara]

i was thoroughly enjoying the previous one. hope the debate continues

Shouldn't be closed IMO, Doubt it's going on tho.

 

[KeyofDestiny]

No you just got shitted on simple. Your banned what are you doing on NB you need the break because you rage out when you get shitted on simple. Also keep the insults coming im going to make sure your IP is banned next.

Nice to know that I rustle your jimmies so hard that you've decided to try your hardest to get me off the site.

Not to mention I didn't "rage out". I called you 3 names. :lol