Rinnegan Sasuke and Juubito vs RM Naruto

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I'll go with Sasuke in one condition.

If Obito ejects the Juubi and Sasuke seals it into his PS for a Juubi PS instead of a Bijuu PS. Not sure if it'll have the same power output since the Juubi is stronger than the 9 Bijuu. Then again, they're being fused into one when they got sealed into his PS since it was used as a replacement for the Gedo.
 

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Sasuke and Juubito med difficulty.

Sasuke simply takes Juubito chakra just like he did the Duo and proceed to take on Naruto with ease.
 

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Leaning towards Naruto. Team best chance to win is obito giving sasuke the juubi/bijuu, but that doesn't seem likely as clones and Naruto can prevent that.

Naruto med diff.
 

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Right, it's unmeasurable indeed. :rolleyes:

OT: RSM Naruto clearly wins at ease.
I'm guessing you forgot the part where Kurama himself notes the ten-tails power. There's no denying it has a much larger quantity than the nine-tails himself.

OT:
Reasons why the duo win:
Logically, Naruto has no possible way to win if you think by how Kishimoto would actually write the fight. He's facing two people around his level. Obito shares his sage chakra by Sasuke using the Rinnegan to take it, thus having a pseudo sage mode like Madara had. Both of them also have access to Izanami and Izanagi.

On the other side, you have those who just want to use possibilities. The possibility of Naruto creating many clones using a Kurama cloak is possible, yes. To those people, Obito simply transfers the Demonic Statue and tailed beast chakra to Sasuke, thus killing himself in order to allow Sasuke the ability to solo Naruto with the slightest of ease. Besides that, Obito could also simply use the statue to solo Kurama, which cannot be fought against as soon as the chains take hold.
 

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I'm guessing you forgot the part where Kurama himself notes the ten-tails power. There's no denying it has a much larger quantity than the nine-tails himself.
Hmm?
Unmeasurable=/=infinity. Being unmeasurable means that the power cannot be measure. Because:
- Kurama isn't an actual sensor.
- Sage Mode Naruto's sensing is complete shit compared to RSM Naruto.
- It was unmeasurable until there was an explicit comparison between Kaguya's power and the Juubi's.

Logically, Naruto has no possible way to win if you think by how Kishimoto would actually write the fight. He's facing two people around his level.
- Juubito is absolutely nowhere near Naruto's level. At all.
- Kishimoto's style of writing out fights is irrelevant since this is a complete made up scenario.
Obito shares his sage chakra by Sasuke using the Rinnegan to take it, thus having a pseudo sage mode like Madara had.
Obito will get blitzed down by Naruto's clones before he does that. Even then, this chakra transfer won't place Sasuke at the same level.
Both of them also have access to Izanami and Izanagi.
What exactly does this do?
On the other side, you have those who just want to use possibilities. The possibility of Naruto creating many clones using a Kurama cloak is possible, yes.
Right.
To those people, Obito simply transfers the Demonic Statue and tailed beast chakra to Sasuke, thus killing himself in order to allow Sasuke the ability to solo Naruto with the slightest of ease.
LML, not even close. At best, Sasuke will tie with Naruto as shown in canon. Not only that, this Naruto is at full power, not at a half-ass state like he was in VOTE fight. There is no way Sasuke will solo Naruto with ease.
Besides that, Obito could also simply use the statue to solo Kurama, which cannot be fought against as soon as the chains take hold.
Lolol Not happening. Not one bit. This isn't Kurama; this is Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto. A clear indicate that the same trick won't was when Naruto kicked a TSB without getting his feet disintegrated. There was even a note that this mode transcend far above Tailed Beast Mode.
 

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Hmm?
Unmeasurable=/=infinity. Being unmeasurable means that the power cannot be measure. Because:
- Kurama isn't an actual sensor.
- Sage Mode Naruto's sensing is complete shit compared to RSM Naruto.
- It was unmeasurable until there was an explicit comparison between Kaguya's power and the Juubi's.
Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.

- Juubito is absolutely nowhere near Naruto's level. At all.
- Kishimoto's style of writing out fights is irrelevant since this is a complete made up scenario.
Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.

Obito will get blitzed down by Naruto's clones before he does that. Even then, this chakra transfer won't place Sasuke at the same level.
Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.

What exactly does this do?
Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.

Now on to the unrealistic parameters.

LML, not even close. At best, Sasuke will tie with Naruto as shown in canon. Not only that, this Naruto is at full power, not at a half-ass state like he was in VOTE fight. There is no way Sasuke will solo Naruto with ease.
You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.

Lolol Not happening. Not one bit. This isn't Kurama; this is Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto. A clear indicate that the same trick won't was when Naruto kicked a TSB without getting his feet disintegrated. There was even a note that this mode transcend far above Tailed Beast Mode.
It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.
 
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Honestly, Sasuke without the Bijuu is no matched for VOTE2 Naruto by feats. Especially with Ashura avatar at full power, it's just a joke.

JJ Obito is a non factor honestly. JJ Madara > JJ Obito, Naruto can take him out with a few RSM clones, hell imagine if he created 1000 (Which would also put Sasuke and Amen. at edge).

It all goes into Naruto favor, especially if plot is not holding him back and he actually uses his blitz capabilities. It's pretty game over.

RM Naruto tanks.
 

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Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.


Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.


Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.


Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.


Now on to the unrealistic parameters.


You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.


It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.
I seriously don't understand what this fascination about "Oh he has the eyes and the body thing" and using that as an argument. Obito's Rin'negan use is trivial at best and not even his own Rin'negan and even lacks Limbo which made Madara even remotely threatening to Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto when he woke up was at least a tier above Juubi Jin Obito. VOTE2 Naruto is 2-3 tiers easily. Far faster, physically stronger, better reflexes, and plenty of ways to absolutely destroy Obito's defences and restrict Obito's main offence (Juubi dama's). He doesn't stand a damn chance here at all, that's why he's obsolete here.

Multiple clones handle him easily, and without the Bijuu's power to amplify his own, Sasuke isn't beating Naruto on his own.
 

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Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.
And Naruto just measured and compared Kaguya's to Juubi's. that means he would have to be in that range of power.
Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.
Having a bunch of arsenal doesn't mean anything. I can say that Kakashi has Water, Earth, Shadow Clones, and Lightning techniques while Naruto only has Rasengan, Shadow Clones, and Wind. Yet Kakashi noted that Naruto was on his level after using just a 50% Rasenshuriken. Juubito's Sharingan doesn't mean anything since it's precognition was surpassed ages ago. Rinnegan isn't doing jack since Naruto's TBBRS can already destroy Juudara's most powerful Rinnegan technique. If his techniques were countered on that whim, there is nothing suggesting that Juubito can do any better.

8+ times the chakra? Just like how Juudara's noted how powerful Naruto has become from just witnessing V0 RSM

Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.
Naruto absolutely will. Especially when BSM Naruto can already track down and hit Juubito. [ ]-[ ] RSM Naruto is tiers faster than BSM Naruto. So really, off with trying hide behind Kishimoto.
Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.
Izanami is meant for those who tries to run away from the results made. Izanagi will get outlasted consodering the pronciples.


Now on to the unrealistic parameters.


You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.
- Based on what exactly?
- Juubito giving Sasuke chakra is complete fanfiction. On top of that, you are asserting that Sasuke will somehow be given the exact same power as Juubito.
- Only Juubito will posses that ability, not Sasuke. By you crossing this boundary, you are pretty much concededing to this point.
- No, that is a Regular Clone Technique, not Shadow Clone.
It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.
It absolutely does. Madara also said that Naruto and Sasuke can't beat him together. Guess what happens a couple chapters later? Not only this, but this implicates that Naruto will fall for the same trick. Not only this, you clearly ignored my point on RSM Naruto's immunity to Truth Seeker Orbs, which indicates a concession.
 
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Having a bunch of arsenal doesn't mean anything. I can say that Kakashi has Water, Earth, Shadow Clones, and Lightning techniques while Naruto only has Rasengan, Shadow Clones, and Wind. Yet Kakashi noted that Naruto was on his level after using just a 50% Rasenshuriken. Juubito's Sharingan doesn't mean anything since it's precognition was surpassed ages ago. Rinnegan isn't doing jack since Naruto's TBBRS can already destroy Juudara's most powerful Rinnegan technique. If his techniques were countered on that whim, there is nothing suggesting that Juubito can do any better.
It means a better potential. Obviously Naruto is better, there's no denying that, but Obito can still defend himself in the scenario of Kishimoto's writing, which is what this argument is based on.

8+ times the chakra? Just like how Juudara's noted how powerful Naruto has become from just witnessing V0 RSM
Yes, 8+ times the chakra. We don't know as to what extent Hagoromo's chakra actually helped in quantity, seeing as how Naruto was drained when near death.

Naruto absolutely will. Especially when BSM Naruto can already track down and hit Juubito. [ ]-[ ] RSM Naruto is tiers faster than BSM Naruto. So really, off with trying hide behind Kishimoto.
No he wouldn't. It's not his personality to immediately go full speed in the beginning of a fight.


Now on to the unrealistic parameters.

- Based on what exactly?
- Juubito giving Sasuke chakra is complete fanfiction. On top of that, you are asserting that Sasuke will somehow be given the exact same power as Juubito.
- Only Juubito will posses that ability, not Sasuke. By you crossing this boundary, you are pretty much concededing to this point.
- No, that is a Regular Clone Technique, not Shadow Clone.
Fan-fiction? This battle is fiction. Obito giving Sasuke all his chakra is completely viable however in this scenario of what's possible. Obito is the only one to possess what, exactly? Holy Madara had the Six Paths Sage Mode, Truth-Seeking Spheres, and healing. Sasuke is obviously no different in terms of what he'll gain. Even if Sasuke, for some reason, didn't know how to use Shadow Clones, as soon as Naruto uses it, Sasuke can copy and use it for himself. As a matter of fact, he's seen it done so many times that he can undeniably do it from the start.

It absolutely does. Madara also said that Naruto and Sasuke can't beat him together. Guess what happens a couple chapters later? Not only this, but this implicates that Naruto will fall for the same trick. Not only this, you clearly ignored my point on RSM Naruto's immunity to Truth Seeker Orbs, which indicates a concession.
A couple chapters later? Naruto and Sasuke failed to defeat him. Yes, you could say I conceded, but for no reason you're thinking, as I never once said Naruto was unable to touch Truth-Seeking Spheres. That's just obvious to any person. Above that failed insult, I can't seem to find how any of this relates to the situation of Naruto being taken by the chains of the Demonic Statue. Obviously they're avoidable, but once taken, it's impossible to get away.
 

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I seriously don't understand what this fascination about "Oh he has the eyes and the body thing" and using that as an argument. Obito's Rin'negan use is trivial at best and not even his own Rin'negan and even lacks Limbo which made Madara even remotely threatening to Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto when he woke up was at least a tier above Juubi Jin Obito. VOTE2 Naruto is 2-3 tiers easily. Far faster, physically stronger, better reflexes, and plenty of ways to absolutely destroy Obito's defences and restrict Obito's main offence (Juubi dama's). He doesn't stand a damn chance here at all, that's why he's obsolete here.

Multiple clones handle him easily, and without the Bijuu's power to amplify his own, Sasuke isn't beating Naruto on his own.
I didn't say that Obito was either the eyes or the body, but the statement is used because it's valid for potential. I fail to see how clones handle him so easily though. Truth-Seeking Spheres on the other hand easily handle the clones. If you're thinking about the Kurama cloak, Naruto hasn't been shown able to stabilize any more than about six at a time.
 
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