I'm guessing you forgot the part where Kurama himself notes the ten-tails power. There's no denying it has a much larger quantity than the nine-tails himself.You must be registered for see links
Right, it's unmeasurable indeed.
OT: RSM Naruto clearly wins at ease.
Hmm?I'm guessing you forgot the part where Kurama himself notes the ten-tails power. There's no denying it has a much larger quantity than the nine-tails himself.
- Juubito is absolutely nowhere near Naruto's level. At all.Logically, Naruto has no possible way to win if you think by how Kishimoto would actually write the fight. He's facing two people around his level.
Obito will get blitzed down by Naruto's clones before he does that. Even then, this chakra transfer won't place Sasuke at the same level.Obito shares his sage chakra by Sasuke using the Rinnegan to take it, thus having a pseudo sage mode like Madara had.
What exactly does this do?Both of them also have access to Izanami and Izanagi.
Right.On the other side, you have those who just want to use possibilities. The possibility of Naruto creating many clones using a Kurama cloak is possible, yes.
LML, not even close. At best, Sasuke will tie with Naruto as shown in canon. Not only that, this Naruto is at full power, not at a half-ass state like he was in VOTE fight. There is no way Sasuke will solo Naruto with ease.To those people, Obito simply transfers the Demonic Statue and tailed beast chakra to Sasuke, thus killing himself in order to allow Sasuke the ability to solo Naruto with the slightest of ease.
Lolol Not happening. Not one bit. This isn't Kurama; this is Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto. A clear indicate that the same trick won't was when Naruto kicked a TSB without getting his feet disintegrated. There was even a note that this mode transcend far above Tailed Beast Mode.Besides that, Obito could also simply use the statue to solo Kurama, which cannot be fought against as soon as the chains take hold.
Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.Hmm?
Unmeasurable=/=infinity. Being unmeasurable means that the power cannot be measure. Because:
- Kurama isn't an actual sensor.
- Sage Mode Naruto's sensing is complete shit compared to RSM Naruto.
- It was unmeasurable until there was an explicit comparison between Kaguya's power and the Juubi's.
Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.- Juubito is absolutely nowhere near Naruto's level. At all.
- Kishimoto's style of writing out fights is irrelevant since this is a complete made up scenario.
Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.Obito will get blitzed down by Naruto's clones before he does that. Even then, this chakra transfer won't place Sasuke at the same level.
Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.What exactly does this do?
Now on to the unrealistic parameters.Right.
You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.LML, not even close. At best, Sasuke will tie with Naruto as shown in canon. Not only that, this Naruto is at full power, not at a half-ass state like he was in VOTE fight. There is no way Sasuke will solo Naruto with ease.
It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.Lolol Not happening. Not one bit. This isn't Kurama; this is Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto. A clear indicate that the same trick won't was when Naruto kicked a TSB without getting his feet disintegrated. There was even a note that this mode transcend far above Tailed Beast Mode.
I seriously don't understand what this fascination about "Oh he has the eyes and the body thing" and using that as an argument. Obito's Rin'negan use is trivial at best and not even his own Rin'negan and even lacks Limbo which made Madara even remotely threatening to Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto when he woke up was at least a tier above Juubi Jin Obito. VOTE2 Naruto is 2-3 tiers easily. Far faster, physically stronger, better reflexes, and plenty of ways to absolutely destroy Obito's defences and restrict Obito's main offence (Juubi dama's). He doesn't stand a damn chance here at all, that's why he's obsolete here.Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.
Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.
Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.
Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.
Now on to the unrealistic parameters.
You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.
It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.
And Naruto just measured and compared Kaguya's to Juubi's. that means he would have to be in that range of power.Never did I state it was an infinite amount. Just so large that even Kurama couldn't measure it.
Having a bunch of arsenal doesn't mean anything. I can say that Kakashi has Water, Earth, Shadow Clones, and Lightning techniques while Naruto only has Rasengan, Shadow Clones, and Wind. Yet Kakashi noted that Naruto was on his level after using just a 50% Rasenshuriken. Juubito's Sharingan doesn't mean anything since it's precognition was surpassed ages ago. Rinnegan isn't doing jack since Naruto's TBBRS can already destroy Juudara's most powerful Rinnegan technique. If his techniques were countered on that whim, there is nothing suggesting that Juubito can do any better.Obito here is near Naruto's level. Naruto is the body. He is a natural sage with half of Kurama. Obito has essentially 8+ times the chakra of Naruto, and the Sharingan and Rinnegan.
Naruto absolutely will. Especially when BSM Naruto can already track down and hit Juubito. [Naruto in this scenario of Kishimoto's writing wouldn't be able to "blitz" Obito down.
Izanami is meant for those who tries to run away from the results made. Izanagi will get outlasted consodering the pronciples.Izanami stuns anyone in a couple of seconds, and Izanagi is useful to tricking someone.
- Based on what exactly?You'd really have to be a "faptard" to actually believe Naruto would be on par. If you give Sasuke the Six Paths Sage Mode(therefore including Truth-Seeking Spheres) and all the premium chakra the ten-tails provides, along with the Holy Tree's healing, Naruto has no chance. You may be forgetting that every beginner learns the Shadow Clone technique, including Sasuke, who can create multiple Perfect Susano'o.
It absolutely does. Madara also said that Naruto and Sasuke can't beat him together. Guess what happens a couple chapters later? Not only this, but this implicates that Naruto will fall for the same trick. Not only this, you clearly ignored my point on RSM Naruto's immunity to Truth Seeker Orbs, which indicates a concession.It doesn't matter who it is. The manga suggests that as long as the chains take grasp, the tailed beast and host can do nothing to stop it's sealing. Nothing shows otherwise, as I'm sure if you're being taken, you'd obviously fire some Tailed Beast Bombs at the statue taking you, which didn't occur.
It means a better potential. Obviously Naruto is better, there's no denying that, but Obito can still defend himself in the scenario of Kishimoto's writing, which is what this argument is based on.Having a bunch of arsenal doesn't mean anything. I can say that Kakashi has Water, Earth, Shadow Clones, and Lightning techniques while Naruto only has Rasengan, Shadow Clones, and Wind. Yet Kakashi noted that Naruto was on his level after using just a 50% Rasenshuriken. Juubito's Sharingan doesn't mean anything since it's precognition was surpassed ages ago. Rinnegan isn't doing jack since Naruto's TBBRS can already destroy Juudara's most powerful Rinnegan technique. If his techniques were countered on that whim, there is nothing suggesting that Juubito can do any better.
Yes, 8+ times the chakra. We don't know as to what extent Hagoromo's chakra actually helped in quantity, seeing as how Naruto was drained when near death.8+ times the chakra? Just like how Juudara's noted how powerful Naruto has become from just witnessing V0 RSM
No he wouldn't. It's not his personality to immediately go full speed in the beginning of a fight.Naruto absolutely will. Especially when BSM Naruto can already track down and hit Juubito. [You must be registered for see links]-[You must be registered for see links] RSM Naruto is tiers faster than BSM Naruto. So really, off with trying hide behind Kishimoto.
Fan-fiction? This battle is fiction. Obito giving Sasuke all his chakra is completely viable however in this scenario of what's possible. Obito is the only one to possess what, exactly? Holy Madara had the Six Paths Sage Mode, Truth-Seeking Spheres, and healing. Sasuke is obviously no different in terms of what he'll gain. Even if Sasuke, for some reason, didn't know how to use Shadow Clones, as soon as Naruto uses it, Sasuke can copy and use it for himself. As a matter of fact, he's seen it done so many times that he can undeniably do it from the start.- Based on what exactly?
- Juubito giving Sasuke chakra is complete fanfiction. On top of that, you are asserting that Sasuke will somehow be given the exact same power as Juubito.
- Only Juubito will posses that ability, not Sasuke. By you crossing this boundary, you are pretty much concededing to this point.
- No, that is a Regular Clone Technique, not Shadow Clone.
A couple chapters later? Naruto and Sasuke failed to defeat him. Yes, you could say I conceded, but for no reason you're thinking, as I never once said Naruto was unable to touch Truth-Seeking Spheres. That's just obvious to any person. Above that failed insult, I can't seem to find how any of this relates to the situation of Naruto being taken by the chains of the Demonic Statue. Obviously they're avoidable, but once taken, it's impossible to get away.It absolutely does. Madara also said that Naruto and Sasuke can't beat him together. Guess what happens a couple chapters later? Not only this, but this implicates that Naruto will fall for the same trick. Not only this, you clearly ignored my point on RSM Naruto's immunity to Truth Seeker Orbs, which indicates a concession.
I didn't say that Obito was either the eyes or the body, but the statement is used because it's valid for potential. I fail to see how clones handle him so easily though. Truth-Seeking Spheres on the other hand easily handle the clones. If you're thinking about the Kurama cloak, Naruto hasn't been shown able to stabilize any more than about six at a time.I seriously don't understand what this fascination about "Oh he has the eyes and the body thing" and using that as an argument. Obito's Rin'negan use is trivial at best and not even his own Rin'negan and even lacks Limbo which made Madara even remotely threatening to Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto when he woke up was at least a tier above Juubi Jin Obito. VOTE2 Naruto is 2-3 tiers easily. Far faster, physically stronger, better reflexes, and plenty of ways to absolutely destroy Obito's defences and restrict Obito's main offence (Juubi dama's). He doesn't stand a damn chance here at all, that's why he's obsolete here.
Multiple clones handle him easily, and without the Bijuu's power to amplify his own, Sasuke isn't beating Naruto on his own.
That could be right.Naruto takes this if he's bloodlusted