Rinnegan insight inferior to Sharingan and Byakugan.

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That depends on:

1] If the Rinnegan user has foreign bodies under control via chakra rods
2] How these bodies are positioned



Never stated nor proven.
It has been stated. that's why madara and obito wanted it like their lives depended on it. It has been proven because the most powerful ninja had it. I think you know who that is.
 

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That depends on:

1] If the Rinnegan user has foreign bodies under control via chakra rods
2] How these bodies are positioned
Yes I agree but an experienced rinnegan user would definitely know how to position & co-ordinate attacks, Pein is a good example & here is an example of obito's perfect co-ordination (although he had a sharingan to help enhance reflexes as well).

Kabuto on the other hand is a bad example of how to utilize the rinnegan .
 

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the rinnegan grants you the abilities to use gods power, it all depends on the user of the rinnegan.....So far, no one has used it in such a large scale.

Example: Like comparing zetsu's mokuton to hashirama's huge scale mokuton
 

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the rinnegan grants you the abilities to use gods power, it all depends on the user of the rinnegan.....So far, no one has used it in such a large scale.

Example: Like comparing zetsu's mokuton to hashirama's huge scale mokuton
I am not talking about raw power just insight
 

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It has been stated. that's why madara and obito wanted it like their lives depended on it. It has been proven because the most powerful ninja had it. I think you know who that is.
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No, it hasn't, if you've done any actual research on the Japanese used when it was "said". The Japanese term "Saikyo" is not as literal as the english equivalent [Strongest; best; highest]. Madara is far ahead of Nagato, despite only having an eternal Kaleidoscope Sharingan, and Obito himself showed far more interest in gaining Shisui's old Sharingan than he ever did Madara's Rinnegan. He also stated his Sharingan genjutsu is the greatest jutsu around, but again, this is not meant to be taken literally.
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rinnegan is most likely the greatest one.

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rinnegan is 14 times better than byakugan and sharingan in vision. 6 paths of pains + the animal summoning. with that you can look at 14 places at the same time and perfect your attacks.

rinnegan can see through invisible barriers something that byakugan nor sharingan has ever done.

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it can see chakra flow.

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it can easily notice genjutsu.

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it is the next evolution of the sharingan.

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No, it hasn't, if you've done any actual research on the Japanese used when it was "said". The Japanese term "Saikyo" is not as literal as the english equivalent [Strongest; best; highest]. Madara is far ahead of Nagato, despite only having an eternal Kaleidoscope Sharingan, and Obito himself showed far more interest in gaining Shisui's old Sharingan than he ever did Madara's Rinnegan. He also stated his Sharingan genjutsu is the greatest jutsu around, but again, this is not meant to be taken literally.
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Nice reply. But you are missing the point. My point is the eye as a whole has been suggested to be more powerful not an individual eye or person. While I do agree that madara was stronger than nagato and obito wanted shisuis eye more than the rinnegan, the fact is not all uchihas have shisuis ocular powers but any one who gets the rinnegan has the potential to use the rinnegan provided they have the capacity to. So the rinnegan is more powerful as a whole. Although some sharingans maybe superior
 

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Nice reply. But you are missing the point. My point is the eye as a whole has been suggested to be more powerful not an individual eye or person.
And once again, the actual Japanese used, does not inform the reader that something is the most powerful, only powerful. That's the difference between the original raw and the slam-dash translations being paraded around.

While I do agree that madara was stronger than nagato and obito wanted shisuis eye more than the rinnegan, the fact is not all uchihas have shisuis ocular powers but any one who gets the rinnegan has the potential to use the rinnegan provided they have the capacity to. So the rinnegan is more powerful as a whole. Although some sharingans maybe superior
You admit Madara is more powerful than Nagato, so it doesn't make any sense to say the Rinnegan is "more powerful as a whole". The Rinnegan today is really nothing more than another Sharingan transformation.

rinnegan is most likely the greatest one.

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rinnegan is 14 times better than byakugan and sharingan in vision. 6 paths of pains + the animal summoning. with that you can look at 14 places at the same time and perfect your attacks.
That's not a "default" power of the Rinnegan, so it would be clearer to say it has the potential to have superior vision compared to Byakugan, not that this is always the case. The chakra rods they need to control physical bodies, is something that pertains to Senju dna.

rinnegan can see through invisible barriers something that byakugan nor sharingan has ever done.

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it can see chakra flow.

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Konoha's barrier is based on chakra.

it can easily notice genjutsu.

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So can the Sharingan. Difference is, the Sharingan can cast genjutsu, in addition to break it, even if it's cast on someone else.

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Oh and, the Sharingan is the only eye that can distinguish clones.


it is the next evolution of the sharingan.

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Transformation, not "evolution".
 
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And once again, the actual Japanese used, does not inform the reader that something is the most powerful, only powerful. That's the difference between the original raw and the slam-dash translations being paraded around.


You admit Madara is more powerful than Nagato, so it doesn't make any sense to say the Rinnegan is "more powerful as a whole". The Rinnegan today is really nothing more than another Sharingan transformation.
Madara being stronger than nagato does not mean that the EMS is superior to the rinnegan. Are you sasying wood release is better than EMS because hashirama defeated madara? Another example is Naruto he only fights with shadow clones and rasengan varients and yet he defeated 5 pains. The point is that madaras superiority over nagato is as a result of his own individual EMS not every EMS. Otherwise you have to accept that wood release is superior to EMS. So rinnegan is superior to most sharingans but exceptions exist.
 

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Madara being stronger than nagato does not mean that the EMS is superior to the rinnegan.
Are you sasying wood release is better than EMS because hashirama defeated madara?
No, it means exactly that. A Madara and Hashirama comparison doesn't stand in comparison to that, because Madara being stronger than Nagato, has everything to do with his ocular jutsu, not his other jutsu.
 

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No, it means exactly that. A Madara and Hashirama comparison doesn't stand in comparison to that, because Madara being stronger than Nagato, has everything to do with his ocular jutsu, not his other jutsu.
Perhaps you are right but are you saying sasuke's EMS is superior to the rinnegan?
 

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Perhaps you are right but are you saying sasuke's EMS is superior to the rinnegan?
At this point in the storyline, with characters drawing comparisons to him and Madara, the opposite conclusion wouldn't make any sense. The "Rinnegan" is also irrelevant in this context, since it is a transformation of Madara's Sharingan. It boils down to whose Sharingan is superior.
 
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