Rinnegan > Flying Thunder God

[A$AP Wap]

Can you all list all of the feats that Hashirama's Sage Mode have?
And I want "The Ability to Sense a FTG user and React to them" Listed.

 

[Prince Charles]

I disagree, FTG's greatest strenght is also its biggest flaw. You can only teleport to and around the FTG seal, and so anyone who pays attention to where the Seal are can then predict, to a certain extent, from that point on you just have to see the attack coming, which anyone of Kage status should be able to react to.

So FTG's strengh is really just its element of surprise, without that it more or less lacking.

You cant react to something instant.. only the user in action can be intercepted. Being kage doesnt mean much especially when the user of the ftg throws multiple seals around the place.

 

[A$AP Wap]

So we're just gonna speed past the whole obito fight even though he has rinne as well? He got hit a bunch of times even though he has rinne.

U got some explaining to do selective manga reader.

Obito was an arrogant fool when he was Juubi's Jinchuuriki and only wanted to use his new found Power. He didn't care if he got hit because most of those attacks were fails anyway.

He is no where as strategic as Madara or Nagato when it comes to fighting.

 

[Gerkak]

You can't react to the teleportation itself

Only the attack after it. Its impossible to predict where/when someone will teleport instantly.

This^^^^^^^

 

[Joker]

I'm pretty sure Nagato sensed Amateratsu because, well I don't know, because he's a SENSOR?
Madara was SM, SM has the capability to sense surroundings do to being one with nature,
Madara was clearly off-gaurd, he just had some fast reactions.

 

[Klaves]

Madara had both Rinnegan when he was blitz kicked in half by Rock Lee in the 5th gate.

Before BSM or BM, Naruto's KCM w/half Kurama gave him the speed needed to get past Ay.

Madara has one Rinnegan and both halves of Kurama, as well as the other tailed beasts (also Hashirama's senjutsu).

FTG is crazy fast, just remember the Juubi TBB redirection and all the movement it required. On top of that, nobody except Naruto knew what was going on, not even Madara with both Rinnegan.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I agree with this.

This^^^^^^^

When they Teleport, with Rinnegan, you can sense their presence *when they appear, and react to their attack.
I'm not saying Rinnegan lets you look where the Person is going to Teleport before they even do it. -facepalm-

 

[Touken]

I disagree, FTG's greatest strenght is also its biggest flaw. You can only teleport to and around the FTG seal, and so anyone who pays attention to where the Seal are can then predict, to a certain extent, from that point on you just have to see the attack coming, which anyone of Kage status should be able to react to.

So FTG's strengh is really just its element of surprise, without that it more or less lacking.

And the element of surprise solely comes from FTG being instant. No one can react to instant but they can react to the strike after, or an individual can anticipate Hiraishin, such as how Bee anticipated it twice, but you can only anticipate it when it's really obvious when the person is going to FTG and where the person's going to FTG.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito was an arrogant fool when he was Juubi's Jinchuuriki and only wanted to use his new found Power. He didn't care if he got hit because most of those attacks were fails anyway.

He is no where as strategic as Madara or Nagato when it comes to fighting.

I'm talking about when minato cut his chest open.

 

[WolfHaley]

It's not that Minato was slow. It's Madara who is faster than instant. In 2 kicks he throwed Minato kilometers away before Gaara's automatic defense(that countered even Amaterasu at close range) could protect himself. Talk about fast

Lol do you know how big a kilometer is? No more than fifty metres I'd say.

 

[BlacLord™]

-facepalm-

Lmao, you're a fairly well-known Nagato fanboy who believes Nagato > BSM Naruto so it comes as no surprise that you say things like this about RG Madz.

You do know about SM sensing? You know, that thing Naruto used to anticipate Sandaime Raikage's attack. Lol

Rinnegan gives no pre-cognition of any form, otherwise you wouldn't find both sets of Six Paths, Nagato and Juubito defeated, especially according to your claim.

 

[A$AP Wap]

I'm talking about when minato cut his chest open.

That was when Madara was first trying to get Obito to revive him.
Obito was already weak and Paralyzed by Madara's Jutsu I guess?

He had no time to or energy to react to Minato's Slash.

Lmao, you're a fairly well-known Nagato fanboy who believes Nagato > BSM Naruto so it comes as no surprise that you say things like this about RG Madz.

You do know about SM sensing? You know, that thing Naruto used to anticipate Sandaime Raikage's attack. Lol

I like how everytime someone tries to prove a point, they get accused of being that Character's Fanboy. Gtfo. :|

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Can you list all of the feats that Hashirama's Sage mode have?
And I want "The Ability to Sense a FTG user and React to them" Listed.



That's because Pain turned his Attention elsewhere after he fired the Nail?
Plus, Kamui wasn't even directed towards Pain.

Can you list all of the feats that Hashirama's Sage mode have?
And I want "The Ability to Sense a FTG user and React to them" Listed.

The advantages afforded to those who learn senjutsu include:

-The user's physical strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, perception and durability dramatically increase.
-The user's ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu become substantially more powerful.
-The user can manipulate the natural energy that surrounds them in this mode, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.
-The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

The Sage Mode user can sense the FTG user once the FTG user is near the Sage mode user.
All that, PLUS the fact that it is Madara uchiha.

If your theory was correct, Jiraiya would've NEVER landed a hit on any of the Six Paths of Pain. The Six Paths of Pain would STILL be the current villain if the Rinnegan included the Sage Mode features that you wish it had.

 

[Da Best Ever]

It seems that only The Rinnegan could give you the ability to Sense someone and react to them even at Flying Thunder God Speed.

Example 1:
We've seen the Rinnegan's Ability to sense when someone is using a Jutsu before. It was when Nagato recognized Amaterasu before Itachi even used it, and Amaterasu is what, Instant? Nagato also might of also had the reaction time to Almighty Push it away before it got close too close to him. Nagato only got hit with Amaterasu when he was fully controlled by Kabuto and was only mindlessly attacking Itachi/Naruto/Bee without Thinking.

Example 2:
Tobirama gets Predicted and countered by an unsuspecting 1 Eye'd Rinnegan Madara and Ultimately Defeated.

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Example 3:
Minato also gets Predicted and countered by an unsuspecting 1 Eye'd Rinnegan Madara

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Conclusion: Rinnegan gives the user Superior Sensing Abilities/Reaction Time. So much, that they can Sense a FTG user and React to them in Time.

fail, it wasnt rinnegan that gave madara the ability to sense, it was hashirama's sage mode...u will try and say nagato could sense and he had rinnegan but the truth is whenever, obito/nagato/konan explain the rinnegna's powers they never said anything about sensing which means nagato could sense on his own....#Levels #Solo

 

[Da Best Ever]

The advantages afforded to those who learn senjutsu include:

-The user's physical strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, perception and durability dramatically increase.
-The user's ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu become substantially more powerful.
-The user can manipulate the natural energy that surrounds them in this mode, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.
-The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

The Sage Mode user can sense the FTG user once the FTG user is near the Sage mode user.
All that PLUS the fact that it is Madara uchiha.

If you're theory was correct Jiraiya would've NEVER landed a hit on any of the Six Paths of Pain. The Six Paths of Pain would STILL be the current villain if the Rinnegan included Sage Mode features that you wish it had.

technically the 6path of pain > sage mode, they did beat 2 sm users....also i agree that nagato's sensing was his own natural ability not anything to do with th rinnegan since whenever nagato/obito/zetsu/and konan explained the rinnegan's abilities they never said anything about sensing...

it was hashirama's sage mode that allowd madara to sense ftg...

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

He had SM and he was the Juubi's jin. Duh.

 

[Steinbiz]

PNJ

Rinnegan>FTG
Madara EMS> Minato

lol, Minato hater.

 

[A$AP Wap]

The advantages afforded to those who learn senjutsu include:

-The user's physical strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, perception and durability dramatically increase.
-The user's ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu become substantially more powerful.
-The user can manipulate the natural energy that surrounds them in this mode, turning it into an extension of their body, which increases the reach of their attacks.
-The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.

The Sage Mode user can sense the FTG user once the FTG user is near the Sage mode user.
All that, PLUS the fact that it is Madara uchiha.

If your theory was correct, Jiraiya would've NEVER landed a hit on any of the Six Paths of Pain. The Six Paths of Pain would STILL be the current villain if the Rinnegan included the Sage Mode features that you wish it had.

I'm not talking about Naruto's Sage Mode. Can you explain Hashirama's Sage Mode to me?

 

[Da Best Ever]

Lmao, you're a fairly well-known Nagato fanboy who believes Nagato > BSM Naruto so it comes as no surprise that you say things like this about RG Madz.

You do know about SM sensing? You know, that thing Naruto used to anticipate Sandaime Raikage's attack. Lol

Rinnegan gives no pre-cognition of any form, otherwise you wouldn't find both sets of Six Paths, Nagato and Juubito defeated, especially according to your claim.

i dnt agree with this thread but i believe nagato can beat bsm naruto...the only thing u hope gives naruto the win is nagato not absorbing senjutsu but technically he can and has since it is a fact he fuels the 6 paths his chakra and when preta path absorbs chakra that corpse gets turnd into stone but not nagato even though that senjutsu chakra was going back to him...

 

[Da Best Ever]

He had SM and he was the Juubi's jin. Duh.

madara had a rinngan and sm when he sensed tobirama's ftg, i believe it was sm not the rinnegan that allowed this but i had to reply to this post because u lacked all the information