[Theory] Rin was NOT a Mist spy. Hell is Obito's Kamui dimension.

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Ok, here, bare with me. This is my very first theory, lol.
After I read the last Naruto chapter, I came up with 3 conclusions.

1. Rin was not a Mist spy.

Why? Well, first of all, if she would've been a spy from the mist, they wouldn't talk so formal about her. Instead of talking like one of theirs, they refer her as the woman.

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2. There is something important that her body has that her body is so important to the (so-called) Mist troops.

As we've seen in the upper panel, the mist take a real keen interest in Rin's body. And once again, why to be interested in someone's body if that body already it was of some of yours? Of course, you'd say that is pretty important for the enemy to not unveil the secret but still the context here is different.

3. The so called Mist ninjas were ANBU Root ops.

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Why am I the only one who feels like Danzo is behind this? Who is known for wanting to collect Sharingan's power if not Danzo himself? So my theory is that it was Danzo who put the troops on their trails as he knew that on that particular mission the Yellow Flash is not with them, and that he wanted to get both Rin's body that supposedly has something interesting (this will probably be later explained by Kishi) and, as well, the Sharingan.

Maybe Kakashi found out and that's why he killed Rin and was planning to run away so that he wouldn't be caught and the Sharingan would be extracted from him? Dunno, assumptions.

Could also be Mist troops that were hunting down the Sharingan as they did that in the past with Byakugan. But I do tend to believe they're Konoha's...

4. The Hell is Obito's dimension.

As we've seen, at first, Obito doesn't know where he is.

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And from day, immediately we passed to so called night. But it's not that, it's actually Obito's dimension and this is the first time he discovers it and given the Jutsu he's been using, he named it like hell. It's methaporically speaking. Not to forget that in his dimension he can do what he wants. Unless Kakashi changes plans. :p

Anyway, these are my theories after reading this chapter. The first ones I ever did, lol.

Comments, critiques, opinions appreciated. :)
 

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But you can see the trees in the background for the third picture. Kishi most likely just drew it dark to symbolize Obito's descent into darkness
 

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congrats in your 1st thread!!! nice thoughts...

is this the way how they conduct experiments?
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I agree with you.
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But in #3, i think obito is using tsukuyomi. Which is why everything is black and why all those ninja instantly got caught in mokuton.
 

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i think except for 3 everyone knows it.
Well, from what I've read around, people considered her a spy. I was tricked to think the same thing as well...

But you can see the trees in the background for the third picture. Kishi most likely just drew it dark to symbolize Obito's descent into darkness
Hmm, this might be as well, or it could be Tobi's dimension as he can surely create everything he wants in his dimension... or at least could manipulate it the way he pleases.

congrats in your 1st thread!!! nice thoughts...

is this the way how they conduct experiments?
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Dunno what to say. That was the way Orochimaru conducted his experiments, we don't know for sure about the others, but might be...

I agree with you.
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But in #3, i think obito is using tsukuyomi. Which is why everything is black and why all those ninja instantly got caught in mokuton.
Thanks! :) It's not my first htread, just my first theory thread. :)
Hmmm, dunno what to say about Tsukuyomi, Obito hasn't shown any types of genjutsu until now to make me think it's Tsukuyomi. That's why I believe is his dimension and that Tobi could use Mokuton in it.

I mean, anything can be done in that dimension, we saw Sasuke gettin healed by Karin there as well...
 

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Congrats on your first theory!!!

My speculation is that Rin is a direct descendant of the first Hokage. my points that lead me to this conclusion are these lightly touched upon information from the manga:

* Harishima died in battle
* Mito did have a child (as always with brothers + girlfriend usually when a brother dies(Hashi) their lover starts dating the other brother (second hokage)
* Rin has bandages on her cheeks in the same position as the Second hokage's markings
* Second Hokage was responsible for the organizational structure:

----- Root Anbu-------
* Kakashi was already a Jounin as well as ANBU
he would have known this fact (Rin being the Daughter of Second Hokage+Mito) <-------- My theory

because of Rin's adept knowledge of Medical jutsu at such a young age as well as her Lineage

Kakashi was forced to kill her to keep the Blood line limit of the senju falling into enemy hands


I'm wearing my flame proof jacket! FLAME ON LOL kgo
 

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i agree and this is a damn fine analysis +rep for all.... but why are they ANBU root? or you mean they are kirikagure's ANBU working with Danzo?
 

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Congrats on your first theory!!!

My speculation is that Rin is a direct descendant of the first Hokage. my points that lead me to this conclusion are these lightly touched upon information from the manga:

* Harishima died in battle
* Mito did have a child (as always with brothers + girlfriend usually when a brother dies(Hashi) their lover starts dating the other brother (second hokage)
* Rin has bandages on her cheeks in the same position as the Second hokage's markings
* Second Hokage was responsible for the organizational structure:

----- Root Anbu-------
* Kakashi was already a Jounin as well as ANBU
he would have known this fact (Rin being the Daughter of Second Hokage+Mito) <-------- My theory

because of Rin's adept knowledge of Medical jutsu at such a young age as well as her Lineage

Kakashi was forced to kill her to keep the Blood line limit of the senju falling into enemy hands


I'm wearing my flame proof jacket! FLAME ON LOL kgo
Pretty nice theory! I've hear it before but that just makes me wonder why not go after Tsunade as well? Though this might be given her strength. It was said that that's how she used to scare enemies off in order to heal her comrades, by using that scary strength of hers.

Well, nevertheless that could be the case... But it's tricky because the Inuzuka's have markings as well.

Nonetheless, I think we'll find out sooner or later what was so special about Rin.

i agree and this is a damn fine analysis +rep for all.... but why are they ANBU root? or you mean they are kirikagure's ANBU working with Danzo?
Because ANBU Root is a special division under Danzo's commandment unlike Special OP ANBU who were under the Hokage's commandment. :)
 
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I was originally thinking Inuzuka Clan but their markings are massive and are on the cheek going down wards as well has they are renowned for beast mastery also Rin's hair color is pretty much the same as Mito's.

Its really just a theory going on what little pieces of evidence i could find
 

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hmmm not sure about the anbu root part.... they did call themselves the bloody mist

and that doesn't look anything like his dimension.... you can even see the trees in the background it just gets dark to show the light fading from obito and why he becomes dark. also for the reader to sense a dark and grim tone.
 
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Well, from what I've read around, people considered her a spy. I was tricked to think the same thing as well...



Hmm, this might be as well, or it could be Tobi's dimension as he can surely create everything he wants in his dimension... or at least could manipulate it the way he pleases.



Dunno what to say. That was the way Orochimaru conducted his experiments, we don't know for sure about the others, but might be...



Thanks! :) It's not my first htread, just my first theory thread. :)
Hmmm, dunno what to say about Tsukuyomi, Obito hasn't shown any types of genjutsu until now to make me think it's Tsukuyomi. That's why I believe is his dimension and that Tobi could use Mokuton in it.

I mean, anything can be done in that dimension, we saw Sasuke gettin healed by Karin there as well...
from what we've seen with tobito, he has multiple objects in his dimension, such as pillars, and weapons. So who knows what else is in there. also we haven't seen the extent of his kamui yet but you theory would make sense as to why it's dark. The only thing I don't understand is why the moon was there as well.
 

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I was originally thinking Inuzuka Clan but their markings are massive and are on the cheek going down wards as well has they are renowned for beast mastery also Rin's hair color is pretty much the same as Mito's.

Its really just a theory going on what little pieces of evidence i could find
Hmm, could be, but dunno. I am not negating it, though, might be. There is a lot of interest for Rin body so there has to be something with her.

hmmm not sure about the anbu root part.... they did call themselves the bloody mist
Sure, but if you look at the drawing, why exactly that little triangle is showed? And as well, we know Danzo always worked dirty, why not do it this time as well? Getting those masks, being on Mist's teritorry, Mist being accused of it. Clean hands for him. No one would've blamed him...

And I think some Uchihas are there as well, therefore Obito agreeing to wipe-out the entire Uchiha clan.

Yeah im pretty sure too that its the kamui dimension.
Normally, would have to be because that dimension of his has to be explained to us how it came to be, so on and so forth.
But might as well just be the land itself, lol.

This is gonna look nasty in the anime -_-
True, true... I wonder if they'll use that much blood though.

from what we've seen with tobito, he has multiple objects in his dimension, such as pillars, and weapons. So who knows what else is in there. also we haven't seen the extent of his kamui yet but you theory would make sense as to why it's dark. The only thing I don't understand is why the moon was there as well.
Exactly my thoughts... Though the moon thing needs to be explained... Maybe that was the original dimension somehow and the moon was part of it? :shrugs:
But there certainly is something related to Tsuki no Me with that moon, heh.
 
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yes, but how do you know they were ANBU root? that's the part i didn't get...
Well, that's a theory based on how we saw that whenever something fishy, Danzo's ANBU Root appeared. Take example Danzo pairing with Hanzo that led to Yahiko's death.
As well, Shisui matter...
That's from where I came with the ideea after seeing that little triangle part when the mask was broken.
 
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