Rin or Sakura ?

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Its just the regular lining of personal hatred or bias against Sakura. Even when presented with a character thats basically mirrors her, they have to create subjective notations in there heads that somehow Rin is vastly superior to Sakura. Otherwise they'd be acknowledging that Sakura storyline is pertinent.

But you can't really compare the two, since like i've said we only have seen Rin in a few short flashbacks, and it was during her shining moments.

We know she has some flaws just like Sakura does, since most young girls can't help but fall in love with the cool as-sholes (Kakashi and Sasuke).

But its whatever, they can believe what they want however it doesn't change the fact that Obito's life mirrors Naruto's, just with Obito making a different choice.

Pretty much what you said. Sakura has had 600+ chapters to showcase positives and negatives while Rin has been featured in like 4 flashbacks. We have no idea what Rin liked, disliked, what her overall attitude was like, personality, demeanor, etc.

If I showcased to you nothing but Sakura healing people, feeding ramen to Naruto and her pep talk to the alliance a few chapters back you would never guess she was a Tsundere.

Point being, Rin has absolutely zero development barring her blatant parallels to Sakura. For some strange reason, the Naruto community as a whole seems to favor female characters who receive the least amount of development as actual humans with flaws. I.E. Rin/Hinata/Ino/etc. Go figure this one it makes no sense to me.
 
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I dont know what are talking about sakura always jump to protect her friends ( or strangers ) even if its cost her her life
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She had the balls to be stabbed by a sword.
 

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Pretty much what you said. Sakura has had 600+ chapters to showcase positives and negatives while Rin has been featured in like 4 flashbacks. We have no idea what Rin liked, disliked, what her overall attitude was like, personality, demeanor, etc.
Yet the few positives that we has seen from Rin outweigh anything sakura did in part 1.

If I showcased to you nothing but Sakura healing people, feeding ramen to Naruto and her pep talk to the alliance a few chapters back you would never guess she was a Tsundere.
No, being a Tsundere is a primary part of her character, and would be displayed, just as Kushina's personality was displayed in her flashbacks.
Point being, Rin has absolutely zero development barring her blatant parallels to Sakura. For some strange reason, the Naruto community as a whole seems to favor female characters who receive the least amount of development as actual humans with flaws. I.E. Rin/Hinata/Ino/etc. Go figure this one it makes no sense to me.
1. Being a Parallel of character does not make them extremely similar. Look at the difference between kid kakashi and Sasuke.
2. Passive aggressive jabs are foolish and just prove how biased you are, every K-11 member had flaws, Hinata had much better development than Sakura.
3. Claiming it makes no sense to you just builds on your already clear ignorance. Various fans on numerous occasions have expressed why they like character like the ones you mentioned. Your gross denial is sad.
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Yet the few positives that we has seen from Rin outweigh anything sakura did in part 1.


No, being a Tsundere is a primary part of her character, and would be displayed, just as Kushina's personality was displayed in her flashbacks.

1. Being a Parallel of character does not make them extremely similar. Look at the difference between kid kakashi and Sasuke.
2. Passive aggressive jabs are foolish and just prove how biased you are, every K-11 member had flaws, Hinata had much better development than Sakura.
3. Claiming it makes no sense to you just builds on your already clear ignorance. Various fans on numerous occasions have expressed why they like character like the ones you mentioned. Your gross denial is sad.
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What's sad is you taking what I said and altering it to suit you because you have this hatred boner for a fictional character.

Pretty much everything you said is false.

"Hinata had much better development than Sakura."

No. Mathematically, this it utterly false. Sakura is featured about 10x more than Hinata. You can like Hinata more. You can personally think that she is better. But saying she is more developed as a character is untrue.

"Being a Parallel of character does not make them extremely similar. Look at the difference between kid kakashi and Sasuke."

Do I really need to point out why this sounds retarded? Do you know what parallel means?

"Passive aggressive jabs are foolish and just prove how biased you are"

If I made a jab at anything it was the NB community for having fetishes for underdeveloped female characters with no flaws except they love someone too much. Possibly Kishi as well but it's no secret I think he's a blatantly sexist author.

Rin is a Sakura mirror. Deal with it. Yeah, they might have differences like "Rin likes spicy food" or something, but both characters are intended to be similar and fill the same role.
 
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Rin. I like her in the small time that we've seen her way more than the amount of time we've ever spent with Sakura.
 

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Rin. I like her in the small time that we've seen her way more than the amount of time we've ever spent with Sakura.

This is pretty much my point.

Say you have 2 people. With Person #1 all you see of them is snapshots of their life. Spending time with friends, a few highlights of things they said, just little snippets of their life.

Person #2 is a 3 hour long feature of the last 20 years of their life. You see their daily routine, their inner thoughts, their struggles, personal feelings and relationships. How they react in good and bad times, the good things they do, the bad things they do etc.

So, which person are you going to like more? The one you saw the few photos of spending time with friends and whatnot or the one who hated their job, went through a divorce and whatnot?

It's a logical fallacy. People do this all the time with comparing their lives to Facebook and magazines and things like that. It's the same effect.
 
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Sasori 1shots in all of those categories.

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"Hinata had much better development than Sakura."

No. Mathematically, this it utterly false. Sakura is featured about 10x more than Hinata. You can like Hinata more. You can personally think that she is better. But saying she is more developed as a character is untrue.
False, development does not depend on quantity, development is considered by quality. Hinata's development was handled much better than Sakura's, but as I said, you'll continue to stay in denial.
"Being a Parallel of character does not make them extremely similar. Look at the difference between kid kakashi and Sasuke."

Do I really need to point out why this sounds retarded? Do you know what parallel means?
I don't think you understand what extremely similar is. Parallels are characters that play similar roles in a certain dynamic, may it be in a team, a community, a love triangle etc. Orochimaru and Sasuke are parallels as well, I suppose this also makes them extremely similar. Even with kakashi and Sasuke the only major similarities they had was their arrogance.
It's actually laughable that you think the similarities between Sakura and Rin are outstanding, seeing as Ino is
much more like sakura than Rin is.
"Passive aggressive jabs are foolish and just prove how biased you are"

If I made a jab at anything it was the NB community for having fetishes for underdeveloped female characters with no flaws except they love someone too much. Possibly Kishi as well but it's no secret I think he's a blatantly sexist author.
This simply further proves your bias, your spite towards other characters such as Hinata makes you blindly underrate her very nicely handled development because you feel that you're fandom is superior. Which is quite sad seeing as Sakura's development has been lackluster several times throughout the manga. On top of that, the opinion of fans carry no weight in a factual matter.
Lastly it has become apparent that you clearly have yet to grasp what character development is, seeing as you based your evaluation of Hinata's on her "perfect" personality, though it clearly is not. The blind ignorance in your evaluation is without doubt one of the most foolish things I've heard in a while here on NB.

Rin is a Sakura mirror. Deal with it. Yeah, they might have differences like "Rin likes spicy food" or something, but both characters are intended to be similar and fill the same role.
It's comical how you claimed I twisted you're words, yet you are gradually digressing from your original claim. I am surprised that even in your ignorance you managed to miss the fact that I have said several times that they are parallels and sustain many similarities. However this in no way makes them identical. I really don't understand why this discussion is continuing because the fact that they are not is so blatantly clear.


This is pretty much my point.

Say you have 2 people. With Person #1 all you see of them is snapshots of their life. Spending time with friends, a few highlights of things they said, just little snippets of their life.

Person #2 is a 3 hour long feature of the last 20 years of their life. You see their daily routine, their inner thoughts, their struggles, personal feelings and relationships. How they react in good and bad times, the good things they do, the bad things they do etc.

So, which person are you going to like more? The one you saw the few photos of spending time with friends and whatnot or the one who hated their job, went through a divorce and whatnot?

It's a logical fallacy. People do this all the time with comparing their lives to Facebook and magazines and things like that. It's the same effect.
Your logic would be accurate if what we have seen of Rin so far wasn't purposefully and intentionally being controlled by the author to represent what Rin was to Obito. It is clear that throughout various parallels in occurrence, such as Rin and Obito's first meeting, Rin's speech to Obito, and her scene on the bench that Rin's character is not only far more unconditionally considerate, but also vastly more mature than sakura was at the corresponding ages. It also makes sure to highlight her motherly concern for obito and her gentle approach to reprimanding him, unlike Sakura's ignorant bursts of anger.
 
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Rin..I never really liked Sakura that much anyway(except the Gaara retrieval arc->that was badass)..
 
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im doing this on appearance Sakura don't have big jugs like Hinata or every other actual female and i think Rin would have or would of had giant jugs and Obito would be really happy and busy with secret massaging.=D
 

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I start like more Rin-sama.
 

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If I had no other choice but one of them it would have to be rin
 

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False, development does not depend on quantity, development is considered by quality. Hinata's development was handled much better than Sakura's, but as I said, you'll continue to stay in denial.

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I don't think you understand what extremely similar is. Parallels are characters that play similar roles in a certain dynamic, may it be in a team, a community, a love triangle etc. Orochimaru and Sasuke are parallels as well, I suppose this also makes them extremely similar. Even with kakashi and Sasuke the only major similarities they had was their arrogance.

Bringing up Orochimaru and Sasuke serves to further prove how similar Rin and Sakura are. Sasuke and Ori are intended to be analogous in the story and Rin and Sakura have WAY more in common than they do right down to the type of ninja they are.

It's actually laughable that you think the similarities between Sakura and Rin are outstanding, seeing as Ino is This simply further proves your bias, your spite towards other characters such as Hinata makes you blindly underrate her very nicely handled development because you feel that you're fandom is superior. Which is quite sad seeing as Sakura's development has been lackluster several times throughout the manga. On top of that, the opinion of fans carry no weight in a factual matter.

You seem to think I hate Hinata and this is reallllly chapping your ass. I don't hate Hinata. I think she's one-dimensional. She has had no expansion on herself as a person besides how much she likes "Naruto's big hand." (Actual quote.) I'd like to see Hinata focus more on becoming the matriarch of the Hyugas and less on how much she likes a boy. Similarly, I'd love to see Kishi expand on Sakura's powerups. Sadly, we won't ever get any of this because Kishi is a big fat sexist.


Lastly it has become apparent that you clearly have yet to grasp what character development is, seeing as you based your evaluation of Hinata's on her "perfect" personality, though it clearly is not. The blind ignorance in your evaluation is without doubt one of the most foolish things I've heard in a while here on NB.

It's comical how you claimed I twisted you're words, yet you are gradually digressing from your original claim. I am surprised that even in your ignorance you managed to miss the fact that I have said several times that they are parallels and sustain many similarities. However this in no way makes them identical. I really don't understand why this discussion is continuing because the fact that they are not is so blatantly clear.

Uhm. Are we still talking about Rin and Sakura? Because you seem reeeeeeally focused on Hinata.



Your logic would be accurate if what we have seen of Rin so far wasn't purposefully and intentionally being controlled by the author to represent what Rin was to Obito. It is clear that throughout various parallels in occurrence, such as Rin and Obito's first meeting, Rin's speech to Obito, and her scene on the bench that Rin's character is not only far more unconditionally considerate, but also vastly more mature than sakura was at the corresponding ages. It also makes sure to highlight her motherly concern for obito and her gentle approach to reprimanding him, unlike Sakura's ignorant bursts of anger.

So basically what you're saying is Rin could have totally been a Tsundere but we would never know because Obito is only recalling the moments she talked to him about becoming Hokage?

Point being, it's impossible to judge what her personality was like from the few flashbacks we've seen. Again, assuming you've never seen Sakura before, I could show you the few scenes of her healing Naruto, feeding him, holding him when he's hurt, hugging him, blushing at him, and you would totally think she's this wilting flower when she's actually nothing of the sort.

You cannot, with any certainty, describe Rin's personality or attitudes with any sort of accuracy from what we've seen. What we can extrapolate is both Rin and Sakura:

They look alike, both medical nin, both taking care of the "hero" who wants to be Hokage, both end up with a crush on the "bad boy" team member as kids, both are the object of affection of the hero, both were attacked by the "bad boy" team member (You'll see this similarity come into play, mark my words), both swear to support the hero as he becomes Hokage...

For some reason it really pains you that you like a character that has so much in common with Sakura. I'm not sure why.
 
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