Rin or Sakura ?

[Byakusharinnegan]

Rin is the better character and more relevant to the story than Sakura ever hoped to be.

I love how you say she's the better character when she doesn't have a quarter of a quarter of the amount of panel time Sakura has.

Mindless Sakura bashing has become the norm on this site, I suppose.

 

[Raekwon26]

Good, now observe your examples. Each Characteristic can be embodied in a single example.

So why should Rin be deprived of this same functionality? Claiming that we haven't seen her character in full view is inaccurate, as during kakashi gaiden (Outside of obito's direct memories) We see her during many high stress situations as well as low stress ones).

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This includes many parallels that we see in relation to team 7, and we see her actions and how they are in accordance to Sakura's. (This is addressing the claim of her being a tsundere.

The only thing that her character lacks is an origin story.

So, because we've seen flashes of Rin and Sakura parallels her, we know enough about Rin to form a conclusion about her?
That's like saying we know everything we need to know about SO6P, The Elder Son, The Younger Son, Shisui, Izuna etc.

Such an 'uchiha' like comment to make lol but I get your point - we don't know the full extent of her but exactly as that dude said - ONE page had more depth in her than all those chaptes with sakura - that's sad.

Really?

Explain this one page of depth that out shines Sakura?

 

[Made in Heaven]

I prefer Rin much more

 

[Erin]

So, because we've seen flashes of Rin and Sakura parallels her, we know enough about Rin to form a conclusion about her?
That's like saying we know everything we need to know about SO6P, The Elder Son, The Younger Son, Shisui, Izuna etc.

Your'e starting to be ignorant.
Naming Characters that we have literally seen maybe 2 pages of dialogue from.

We haven't seen flashes of Rin. We've seen multiple chapters of her (In Kakashi Gaiden) and about 2 chapters or more worth of dialogue in flashbacks. Kakashi Gaiden is imperative because it was the one time that Kishimoto had to fully express the characters that are young kakashi, Obito, and Rin. Therefor, he had to show a variety of sitauations to showcase their personalities and traits.

 

[xcoyote]

I love how you say she's the better character when she doesn't have a quarter of a quarter of the amount of panel time Sakura has.

Mindless Sakura bashing has become the norm on this site, I suppose.

The criteria you use to evaluate development are false,development depends on quality not quantity,amirite?
That being said,this is my opinion and i stick to it,so get off my sack,will ya?

@bold i am pretty sure there was no character bashing goin on in my post.

 

[Raekwon26]

Your'e starting to be ignorant.
Naming Characters that we have literally seen maybe 2 pages of dialogue from.

We haven't seen flashes of Rin. We've seen multiple chapters of her, and about 2 chapters more worth in flashbacks.

We've seen dialogue of Izuna, we've seen dialogue of Shisui. Most of the time we've seen Rin has been pictures of her smiling. We saw Kakashi Gaiden and what did we learn? She's kind and Obito likes her. The same stuff we've been shown in the flashbacks.

I am not going to decide that because we've seen her good points that's enough to form a conclusion on a character.
That's bogus.

 

[Flawž]

I prefer Rin much more

Coming from a Naruhina fan.

 

[Erin]

We've seen dialogue of Izuna, we've seen dialogue of Shisui. Most of the time we've seen Rin has been pictures of her smiling. We saw Kakashi Gaiden and what did we learn? She's kind and Obito likes her. The same stuff we've been shown in the flashbacks.

Ignorance at it's finest.

I can't take your opinion seriously any more after that post. I have doubts you've even read kakashi gaiden.

Smh.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

Of Sakura right?
Should I post examples and reasons? I will anyway;

1. Her determination ( The fact she put herself in a position to improve (Training with Tsunade) instead of wollowing in her own pathetic self pity.)

-- All of the K11 did this, such relevance seems simplistic, also this was motivated for her own feelings of comfort to be on par with her team mates - Ino did the same and all pushed themselves forward --

2. Her motivation ( Instead of being in awe of her team-mates, (No, not Sai) she tried to improve herself to be somewhat of a team-mate when they fought together.
-- Again this is normal with all the various character developments - nothing special there --

3. Her attitude ( I just like her hot-headed behaviour. =D)

-- that has its moments where she becomes bada$$ that I like but as one so well put it the 24/7 pms mode gets sickening at times --

4. Her perseverance (She knows her strengths and weaknesses and instead of trying to be something that she's not (early PT 1 Sakura) she actually feels comfortable being herself and strives to continue to believe in others.)

-- agreed --


5. Her insecurites (The fact she couldn't kill Sasuke, she knew she wasn't ready)
-- you and I both know what she did was dumb. Her against sasuke, hell somewhere in her subconscious I think she knew that too --

6. Her positivity ( Giving that 'speech' during the fight against Obito and Madara would usually be something we see Kakashi do, the fact that she actually spoke up is good see.)

-- good no problem - where was she when naruto was about to call it quits - in the freakin' shadows, love her dependability in those times --


7. Her confidence ( She's no longer the fragile joke she was in PT 1.)

-- completely agree with that - she's strong and a courageous fighter now --

8. Her belief/will (The fact that unlike certain other characters, she doesn't allow people to warp her views, she actually has the decency to try an follow through with her beliefs.)

-- her character has immediate advantages that make things easier for her to deal with, she has no real notable losses that cause doubts etc (excepting the loss of sasuke as a team mate) as a result she can't seem to effectively relate to those that do (prob why she treated naruto a certain way for a long time) --

9. Her honesty (She knows her place, which isn't always being in the spotlight performing the OP jutsu. Doing the other things which contribute.)\

-- Honesty?? lol lol lmao let's not get into the whole kill sasuke lie thing, not to mention playing with a guys feeling who just happens to really like you lol --

10. Her Pride (The fact that she realises that she is no longer the joke she was in PT 1 and she is important and her skills do matter)

-- She can go the distance to a point - she has increased greatly in skill but she's not BM level and PS level like naruto and sasuke if you know what I mean. --

It's a shame we didn't get to see these more often, but what can you do......

Just my response.

 

[Europa]

I mean, is Rin even a character or a plot device?

 

[Raekwon26]

Ignorance at it's finest.

I can't take your opinion seriously any more after that post. I have doubts you've even read kakashi gaiden.

Smh.

Fine then.
Just don't expect me to think of her as this well developed character when we've BARELY scratched the surface with this character.
I need to see more than a couple chapters and panels.

You would think that after we saw Zabuza, people would realise all is not what it first seems.....

Just my response.

No.
I asked you for this panel of depth that outshines Sakura's whole character.

Can you explain that?

 

[xcoyote]

I mean, is Rin even a character or a plot device?

You mean kinda like current Orochimaru?

 

[Erin]

Fine then.
Just don't expect to think of her as this well developed character when we've BARELY scratched the surface with this character.
I need to see more than a couple chapters and panels.

You would think that after we saw Zabuza, people would realise all is not what it first seems.....

No, you are clearly misinformed if you believe what you stated in your previous post. Your last statement is farcical at best, your opinion is completely invalid considering you have yet to show basic comprehension skills in regards to this matter.

 

[Europa]

You mean kinda like current Orochimaru?

Well played...

 

[Raekwon26]

No, you are clearly misinformed if you believe what you stated in your previous post. Your last statement is farcical at best, your opinion is completely invalid considering you have yet to show basic comprehension skills in regards to this matter.

Again, fine.
I don't take a couple of chapters, flashbacks of a smile as deep as others.

And you continue to insult me? Ok then, I never once insulted you for your view on it but alright.

 

[Atohasa Uzamaki]

Rin is to Obito as Hinata is to Naruto...Its just that Obito was smart enough to realize it...

 

[Europa]

Rin is to Obito as Hinata is to Naruto...Its just that Obito was smart enough to realize it...

Except Naruto has no romantic feelings towards Hinata; ANd she is just a creepy and obsessive stalker anyways.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

So, because we've seen flashes of Rin and Sakura parallels her, we know enough about Rin to form a conclusion about her?
That's like saying we know everything we need to know about SO6P, The Elder Son, The Younger Son, Shisui, Izuna etc.



Really?

Explain this one page of depth that out shines Sakura?

Ok one page obviously wouldn't show everything I agree that was exaggeration at its finest...but just from how she treats obito there you see the stark difference in them. Sakura constantly called naruto an idiot and never acted like she believed he could do what he claimed he wanted to do. Well i'm not gonna go through all the measures to link page and what not but just that one page where obito says he's going to become hokage...she has no proof of that he's pretty much low tare as an uchiha but she does the most important thing as a good friend and team mate - and believes in him and his dream and motivates him. Something sakura didn't do...so yeh that one page said worlds about her.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

So, because we've seen flashes of Rin and Sakura parallels her, we know enough about Rin to form a conclusion about her?
That's like saying we know everything we need to know about SO6P, The Elder Son, The Younger Son, Shisui, Izuna etc.



Really?

Explain this one page of depth that out shines Sakura?

Ok one page obviously wouldn't show everything I agree that was exaggeration at its finest...but just from how she treats obito there you see the stark difference in them. Sakura constantly called naruto an idiot and never acted like she believed he could do what he claimed he wanted to do. Well i'm not gonna go through all the measures to link page and what not but just that one page where obito says he's going to become hokage...she has no proof of that he's pretty much low tare as an uchiha but she does the most important thing as a good friend and team mate - and believes in him and his dream and motivates him. Something sakura didn't do...so yeh that one page said worlds about her.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

So, because we've seen flashes of Rin and Sakura parallels her, we know enough about Rin to form a conclusion about her?
That's like saying we know everything we need to know about SO6P, The Elder Son, The Younger Son, Shisui, Izuna etc.



Really?

Explain this one page of depth that out shines Sakura?

Ok one page obviously wouldn't show everything I agree that was exaggeration at its finest...but just from how she treats obito there you see the stark difference in them. Sakura constantly called naruto an idiot and never acted like she believed he could do what he claimed he wanted to do. Well i'm not gonna go through all the measures to link page and what not but just that one page where obito says he's going to become hokage...she has no proof of that he's pretty much low tare as an uchiha but she does the most important thing as a good friend and team mate - and believes in him and his dream and motivates him. Something sakura didn't do...so yeh that one page said worlds about her.