Rikudou Sennin Is Definitely An Uzumaki

[Space Cowboy]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

So you're saying that becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki altered his DNA somehow?
Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu, though.

Yes, the Uzumaki excelled in sealing, and had exceptionally long lives as well as an impressive recovery power.

But can you really compare them to the Sage of the Six Paths, who sealed all of the Juubi into himself? Even the Yondaime Hokage was overwhelmed by half of but a fraction of the Juubi's power. The only explanation for the Sage's power would be for the two strongest (and mainstream) clans together.

Jinchuriki get abilities from their bijuu. Naruto's healing abilities for one. Then using Creation of All Things to divvy up the powers amongst two sons isnt really all that hard to believe. Weve seen crazier things.

 

[Retsu]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Am very sorry,too tired.its midnight!
Kushina used one against kurama
Obito used it againt four tails(son goku) and againts naruto while freeing Son goku.that's before he attained BM

actually this is a good point to bring up, kushina used chakra chains to restrain the fox, and they were very similar to the ones Obito used through the rinnegan to restrain other Bijuu, that would be a very unlikely coincidence for them to be totally unrelated techs.

 

[Kages]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Tbh, I really want Kishimoto to tell us what clan the Sage was from, so we can stop this endless arguement >_>

 

[Chatte]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

So you're saying that becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki altered his DNA somehow?
Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu, though.

Yes, the Uzumaki excelled in sealing, and had exceptionally long lives as well as an impressive recovery power.

But can you really compare them to the Sage of the Six Paths, who sealed all of the Juubi into himself? Even the Yondaime Hokage was overwhelmed by half of but a fraction of the Juubi's power. The only explanation for the Sage's power would be for the two strongest (and mainstream) clans together.

Yeah, could be. Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu, technically, but you never wondered what about those eyes? Only rage? Could be. Means that the feelings he [the sage] had, all around, are concentrated in Rinnegan? I mean, look at Uchihas. Dependably on feelings, they get Sharingan of different levels.
Naruto in Sage Mode got those linear eyes.
This wouldn't be something too out of the ordinary.
Would it? For the strongest Bijuu since 10 tails they needed an Uzumaki. Not a Senju, not an Uchiha.
What makes you think that it was different with the Sage? In the end, he could've had some sealing techs to repress the Juubi, just like Mito and Kushina did without having God knows what OP bodies.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Think about this for a moment: The awakening of the Rinnegan has one sole primary stimulant: The combination of both Senju and Uchiha DNA, wouldn't it logically follow that the awakening of its' full powers also require both Senju and Uchiha DNA? and if Nagato who awakened its' full power like Rinne Tensei only had Senju DNA, then wouldn't the stimulant of the mechanism of awakening be lacking? unless, Nagato also possessed Uchiha DNA through his Uzumaki heritage.

The same mechanism is reflected in the awakening of the Sharingan: one sole primary stimulant: psychological trauma, before, many assumed that the Mangekyo is awakened only from the killing of one's best friend, but, as the recent chapters had stated, was awakened (MS) from the same stimulant of awakening the ordinary Sharingan, albeit of a higher degree: Psychological Trauma, since the stimulant of awakening the power of the Sharingan is caused by one sole primary stimulant, does it not also reflect the high possibility that the further awakening of the Rinnegan and its' powers to have one sole primary stimulant: Uchiha and Senju DNA that is probably both present within the Uzumaki blood of Nagato's

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

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Chatte,the chakra chains where no seals,the where used to restrain bijuus.
Why do I say this,simple;when kushina used them,she didn't didn't go through a set of handseals....
But I don't know about tobi though!

 

[Chatte]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Chatte,the chakra chains where no seals,the where used to restrain bijuus.
Why do I say this,simple;when kushina used them,she didn't didn't go through a set of handseals....
But I don't know about tobi though!

Well, you don't always have to go through a set of hand seals... Look at medical ninjas... or at least, Sakura. She no longer uses hand seals to heal. She just concentrates chakra into chakra with healing properties...Same what Kushina could do, concentrate that chakra intro chakra strains.
Albeit, other could be the reason.

 

[Omnipotent]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Yeah, could be. Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu, technically, but you never wondered what about those eyes? Only rage? Could be. Means that the feelings he [the sage] had, all around, are concentrated in Rinnegan? I mean, look at Uchihas. Dependably on feelings, they get Sharingan of different levels.
Naruto in Sage Mode got those linear eyes.
This wouldn't be something too out of the ordinary.
Would it? For the strongest Bijuu since 10 tails they needed an Uzumaki. Not a Senju, not an Uchiha.
What makes you think that it was different with the Sage? In the end, he could've had some sealing techs to repress the Juubi, just like Mito and Kushina did without having God knows what OP bodies.

... You make good points, especially on the part where you said Uzumaki were chosen as jinchuuriki instead of Senju/Uchiha (as far as I know, Nawaki would have still been alive at the time Kushina was brought in).
Conceded.

 

[Chatte]

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... You make good points, especially on the part where you said Uzumaki were chosen as jinchuuriki instead of Senju/Uchiha (as far as I know, Nawaki would have still been alive at the time Kushina was brought in).
Conceded.

In the end, what I am saying is that we should wait and see. However, to me, it's bluntly clear that the Sage was an Uzumaki more than Uchiha or Senju or anything.
He could've been basically all 3 in one. As these are the most remarkable clans in this universe. And each clan took a strong particularity of the Sage as inheritance.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

In the end, what I am saying is that we should wait and see. However, to me, it's bluntly clear that the Sage was an Uzumaki more than Uchiha or Senju or anything.
He could've been basically all 3 in one. As these are the most remarkable clans in this universe. And each clan took a strong particularity of the Sage as inheritance.

Agreed :ice:

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

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Chatte,here it is.
This is tobi's gedo using it,

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And this is kushina using hers

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See kushina's and rinnegan's are quite the same!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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Chatte,here it is.
This is tobi's gedo using it,

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And this is kushina using hers

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See kushina's and rinnegan's are quite the same!

Yes and I can see the similarities:

Tobi's chains:

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Kushina's chains:

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[new sage of 6 paths]

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Yes and I can see the similarities:

Tobi's chains:

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Kushina's chains:

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That means he's truly uzumaki!

 

[Chatte]

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Chatte,here it is.
This is tobi's gedo using it,

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And this is kushina using hers

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See kushina's and rinnegan's are quite the same!

Yeah, I know.
I'll have to have a proper look at them.

 

[Kages]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

That means he's truly uzumaki!

Not necessarily, I mean it could just be a random technique they learned, but I still agree that the Sage might be an Uzumaki :y

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

That means he's truly uzumaki!

Very high possibility!!

 

[BooYeah1432]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

I believed the ridoku has white hair not red. But otherwise nice theory.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

I believed the ridoku has white hair not red. But otherwise nice theory.

Nagato also had white hair when he had depleted his Chakra, plus Rikudou was already old when he died, so his hair might have changed from red to white

 

[KingHashirama]

I disagree on this theory over and over bro. Why? Because it doesn't make any sense. NO UZUMAKI IS THAT OP.

If it was in the Uzumaki bloodline, then the others would be OP to. But they weren't. A lot bout the sage has been revealed. And the revealed information says, he is SENJU and UCHIHA.

And since Uzumaki clan members are considered Senju linage. That just proofs Uzumaki came after the Senju and Uchiha Clan.

Also, I doubt they are over 1000 or so years old.

... You make good points, especially on the part where you said Uzumaki were chosen as jinchuuriki instead of Senju/Uchiha (as far as I know, Nawaki would have still been alive at the time Kushina was brought in).
Conceded.

no Omni bro, you messed up on the timeline. Nawaki was dead, when Kushina was brought in as a Jin.

And also, you do have to remember. The first Hokage and the Second hokage were gone by then. So, their information on the Senju or who to pick was not considered. Instead it was up to MITO, who herself was a Uzumaki. So thats where the tradition began. But she herself was a coincidence Jinchuriki, not brought to the village to be the 9-tails jin.

But if SO6P was a Uzumaki, he would've no chance against the Juubi.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I disagree on this theory over and over bro. Why? Because it doesn't make any sense. NO UZUMAKI IS THAT OP.

If it was in the Uzumaki bloodline, then the others would be OP to. But they weren't. A lot bout the sage has been revealed. And the revealed information says, he is SENJU and UCHIHA.

And since Uzumaki clan members are considered Senju linage. That just proofs Uzumaki came after the Senju and Uchiha Clan.

Also, I doubt they are over 1000 or so years old.



no Omni bro, you messed up on the timeline. Nawaki was dead, when Kushina was brought in as a Jin.

And also, you do have to remember. The first Hokage and the Second hokage were gone by then. So, their information on the Senju or who to pick was not considered. Instead it was up to MITO, who herself was a Uzumaki. So thats where the tradition began. But she herself was a coincidence Jinchuriki, not brought to the village to be the 9-tails jin.

But if SO6P was a Uzumaki, he would've no chance against the Juubi.

I respect your opinion on the matter, but like I pointed out, the word "lineage" uttered by Zetsu was misconstrued to mean that the Uzumakis were an off-branch family from the main Senju line, which is false, since the contextual meaning of the word lineage in an anthropological sense in relation to the coefficient of variance of blood relations, Lineage in that context definitely meant : Kinship
which is blood-related, not the Uzumakis stemming forth from the Senju tree. Kushina only said that the Uzumakis were relatives of the Senjus, not descendants of them. And like I pointed out in my previous posts, it does not necessarily follow that if one member your clan was "OP" then the rest would be also, is Konohamaru OP like Hiruzen? no, there's always one who stands out even among the cream of the crop, so Rikudou Sennin standed out as the elite of the elite of his clan, and the Rinnegan was his power alone, not a Kekkei Genkai that is passed down through one's clan, but, since the original Rinnegan was wielded by the Sage, then by the law of genetic inheritance, as the combination of Uchiha and Senju DNA has shown, is the method to unlock and awaken the Rinnegan, so the power of the Sage is passed through his direct descendants, and not his clan. And besides, was not the Uzumakis the elite of the elite when it comes to sealing jutsus? they were considered "OP Sealers"