Rikudou Sennin Is Definitely An Uzumaki

[Retsu]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Like I pointed out, Nagato was chosen exclusively by Madara to awaken further the Rinnegan's powers because he was an Uzumaki, and given that the awakening of the Rinnegan, and the summoning of the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, requires the bearer of the Rinnegan to have both Senju and Uchiha DNA, then why was Nagato able to summon it if his Uzumaki blood only has Senju blood? it is more plausible then, that the Uzumaki blood, contains both Senju and Uchiha Blood to wield the Rinnegan and summon the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.



Exactly my point, because The Uzumaki blood has both Senju and Uchiha DNA because the Uzumakis were the original bloodline of the Sage!

He had the rinnegan implanted at that point, he got Uchiha blood/dna when he got the eyes.

 

[Chatte]

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He had the rinnegan implanted at that point, he got Uchiha blood/dna when he got the eyes.

I am afraid that is wrong. Based on that, Kakashi would have had Uchiha DNA and he wouldn't have gotten so tired every time he would use sharingan.
Eyes doesn't give you the DNA...

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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He had the rinnegan implanted at that point, he got Uchiha blood/dna when he got the eyes.

Yes, but the wielding of the Rinnegan also prerequisites the need for both Uchiha and Senju DNA, is it not why Madara and Obito being Uchihas had Hashirama/Senju cells within them? it's one thing to awaken the Rinnegan with Senju and Uchiha DNA it's another thing to wield them, but how is that so if Nagato only had Senju DNA coursing through his veins? it's because the Uzumakis had both Senju and Uchiha DNA, don't you think that if the awakened Rinnegan had no need of Senju and Uchiha DNA to be wielded properly he would have injected Nagato with Uchiha DNA, but he didn't, why so? because the Uzumaki blood, which most probably contrains both Uchiha and Senju DNA, was more than sufficient to facilitate its' proper wielding. And let us not forget that Rinne Tensei was not yet awaken in the Rinnegan's arsenal of powers, but he gave it to Nagato who was only an Uzumaki assumed to only have Senju DNA, why give it to him to awaken that power of he didn't have both Senju and Uchiha DNA to begin with? since the mechanism of action of awakening the Rinnegan requires both bloods, then the awakening of its' powers also logically follows the need to have both Uchiha and Senju blood.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Derp,let's use kushina as an example!
Kushina had a POWERFUL,and large chakra reserves.it was so powerful she could materialize it into chakra chains!
The eldest son inherited the sage's powerful chakra!
Kushina has an ability synonymous to the gedo(chakra chains)
So rikoudu was an uzumaki.

 

[Retsu]

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I am afraid that is wrong. Based on that, Kakashi would have had Uchiha DNA and he wouldn't have gotten so tired every time he would use sharingan.
Eyes doesn't give you the DNA...

kakashi lacks the uzumaki/senju dna though.

 

[Regulus]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

I dunno, if the Uzumaki had direct lineage to the sage then I feel they'd have more than just senju characteristics, they're pretty much the same thing as a senju while having next to nothing in common with Uchiha, further more, Naruto and sasuke are the embodiment of the elder and younger sons, this to me heavily implies that Uzumaki's and senju's share an exclusive relationship , that has nothing to do with Uchiha.

They do have more than Senju characteristics. The Senju are gifted with spiritually strong bodies while the Uchiha are gifted with strong chakra. What do the Uzumaki have? They have amazing longevity and very powerful chakra.

 

[Chatte]

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kakashi lacks the uzumaki/senju dna though.

So? The point is still the same. The eyes doesn't provide you with the DNA.
The socket remains the same regardless.

 

[Retsu]

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They do have more than Senju characteristics. The Senju are gifted with spiritually strong bodies while the Uchiha are gifted with strong chakra. What do the Uzumaki have? They have amazing longevity and very powerful chakra.

that's too vague, and senju's have always had torrents of chakra, even Tsunade gave some of hers out.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

So? The point is still the same. The eyes doesn't provide you with the DNA.
The socket remains the same regardless.

Wow,chatte is really good at debating!

 

[Retsu]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

So? The point is still the same. The eyes doesn't provide you with the DNA.
The socket remains the same regardless.

I dunno, I can't agree with that seeing as uchiha+senju=sage

I'd have to see a senju get the rinnegan implanted before making a call such as that

 

[Insidious Smile]

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Good.... You and I share the same idea about the ultimate sealing technique, which is the moon.

I also believe the Sot6P was an Uzumaki. [=

 

[Omnipotent]

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I like to point something out, if, as Zetsu said, Nagato was the only one who besides Madara was able to summon the Demonic Statue, and given Madara was able to do so with both Uchiha and Senju DNA, then why can Nagato do it too if he only had Senju DNA from the Uzumaki line? surely he needs both Uchiha and Senju DNA to summon it, and since Madara did not inject Uchiha DNA into Nagato before giving him the Rinnegan, it is therefore logical to assume that his Uzumaki heritage also has blood relations to the Uchihas.

NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.
NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

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that's too vague, and senju's have always had torrents of chakra, even Tsunade gave some of hers out.

Have you seen what Nagato did while he was sick?
Have you seen how karin could freely give out chakra?
Have you seen kushina restraining kurama on her death bed?
Have you seen naruto making 2,000 shadow clones without feeling fatique,when a jonin could only make 10!

 

[Chatte]

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If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

Maybe because the Rinnegan didn't came from the Sage?

Have you seen what Nagato did while he was sick?
Have you seen how karin could freely give out chakra?
Have you seen kushina restraining kurama on her death bed?
Have you seen naruto making 2,000 shadow clones without feeling fatique,when a jonin could only make 10!

What's the point? She could pretty much do the same. Both Senju and Uzumaki are known for their chakras...

 

[Space Cowboy]

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NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.
NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

Most likely got the dojutsu from the Juubi.

 

[Retsu]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Have you seen what Nagato did while he was sick?
Have you seen how karin could freely give out chakra?
Have you seen kushina restraining kurama on her death bed?
Have you seen naruto making 2,000 shadow clones without feeling fatique,when a jonin could only make 10!

This has nothing to do with my point.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.
NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

Isn't it obvious?
The sage only had a doujutsu when he sealed Ame-hitotsu-no kami in himself!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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Like I said in my previous post, Nagato was the perfect host of the Rinnegan, and Madara on the verge of death, hoped that Nagato would awaken the full power of the Rinnegan esp. Rinnei Tensei to revive him one day, did not Madara say when he was revived that (for so he thought) Finally that Nagato brat has done it!" meaning the power of the Rinnegan was not yet fully awakened when he initially gave it to Nagato, for if the Rinnegan was at full power back then, then why was not Madara revived at the moment of his death? and since the awakening of the Rinnegan itself requires both Senju and Uchiha DNA, then the awakening of its' powers logically follows the same mechanism of awakening the power through the possession of both Uchiha and Senju DNA, which Nagato, as an Uzumaki, probably has, because if it was only Senju DNA within his Uzumaki heritage, then it would not have been sufficient, unless, it has Uchiha DNA as well.

 

[CamW]

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NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

Personally i think the sage gained the rinnegan after sealing the Juubi in his body

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Maybe because the Rinnegan didn't came from the Sage?



What's the point? She could pretty much do the same. Both Senju and Uzumaki are known for their chakras...

He's saying uzumaki's where not known for their chakra quantity!