Rikudou chakra holders OR rikudou senjustu/sage mode holders

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So I took the liberty in listing every main stream with rikudou chakra and rikudou senjustu/sagemode character out there (excluding Kaguya, Hagormooo Haruma, and Toneri.)

With that being said...

Main Question:What do you think will happen if one character with only rikudou senjustu/sagemode and the other with only rikudou chakra will handle the opposite power?


Example: Nagato has the rinnegan, implanted ones to be specific. If nagato had rikudou senjustu/sagemode in him (instead of the gedo mazou episode), how powerful will his attacks be?

Or How would naruto handle the rinnegan?

And Sasuke with rikudou senjustsu/sagemode?



Rikudou Senjustu users:

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^^^Here are the many list of characters and different versions of characters with rikudou chakra and/or senjustu.
 

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they would all be like base hagoromo.

nagato would be able to be mobile since he could fly. :p
 

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i think they'd all be OP, but Nagato would be the OPest
Kakashi would be OP too
 
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ultimately senju riku chakra is clearly the one that handles better against the opposite power. the fact that nagato is senju. he's arguably not up to par against naruto/obito level regardless what the riku powers can perform. It really depends on the user/characters abilities and thus their WILL to fight
 

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they would all be like base hagoromo.

nagato would be able to be mobile since he could fly. :p

He would, especially pre GM Nagato with rikudou senjustu/sagemode.

well sort of, they're still somethings that nagato wouldn't be able to do that base hagoromo can do.

i think they'd all be OP, but Nagato would be the OPest
Kakashi would be OP too

I figured Madara or Sasuke would be the Opest, but I can see why Nagato by feats.

Kakashi with Rikudou senjustu would be odd, never really put much thought into that hypothetical.

ultimately senju riku chakra is clearly the one that handles better against the opposite power. the fact that nagato is senju. he's arguably not up to par against naruto/obito level regardless what the riku powers can perform. It really depends on the user/characters abilities and thus their WILL to fight

I think all of these characters have massive amount of will depending on their motive.

Akatsuki Ms Obito has rikudou chakra?

Well after old madara synced him to the gedo mazou and implanted his will (chakra) with hashirama's tissues, he does indeed of rikudou chakra.

He noted that him and nagato were the only ones at the time right after nagato's death.

old madara is there too
 
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Naruto wouldn't be as skillfull as Nagato tbh, and dojutsu requires brains, although his Outer Path, Preta and Deva would be OP as f***

Sasuke will exploit the his chakra pool like nobody's business, TSB Susanoo mah gahd
 

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They would be able to handle the opposite, depending on the user of course, depending on the concentration of chakra for example not just anyone can handle the rinnegan and not just anyone can handle senjutsu but the levels vary for example a little bit of nature chakra it's easy enough for the average person but a ton of it like on RSM Naruto level would kill them, obito could only handle one rinnegan, he would get supremely drained by two rinnegan but a senjutsu user who is on that level would be able to handle it, and one with enough rikoudo chakra could handle senjutsu but the person must be skilled enough for example, preta pein could not handle nature energy but blind madara could do it and you know hashirama's sage mode>>>>>>Naruto's pre rikoudo, so really it's interchangeable but to handle rikoudo senjutsu you must be physically prepared and to properly handle rikoudo chakra you need to have your chakra levels prepared (spiritually prepared).
 

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They would be able to handle the opposite, depending on the user of course, depending on the concentration of chakra for example not just anyone can handle the rinnegan and not just anyone can handle senjutsu but the levels vary for example a little bit of nature chakra it's easy enough for the average person but a ton of it like on RSM Naruto level would kill them, obito could only handle one rinnegan, he would get supremely drained by two rinnegan but a senjutsu user who is on that level would be able to handle it, and one with enough rikoudo chakra could handle senjutsu but the person must be skilled enough for example, preta pein could not handle nature energy but blind madara could do it and you know hashirama's sage mode>>>>>>Naruto's pre rikoudo, so really it's interchangeable but to handle rikoudo senjutsu you must be physically prepared and to properly handle rikoudo chakra you need to have your chakra levels prepared (spiritually prepared).

No one can truly handle the rinnegan except for the owner, regardless of that however there is still utilization of what each doujustu gives you.
Senjustu takes a lot of training and Obito did a juubi's worth of rikudou senjustu by will alone, so sure enough nagato(maybe) and sasuke can probably do the same.
But in this thread I'm discussing a hand outs worth of rikudou senjustu/sagemode and rikudou chakra.
Nothing too fancy or too thorough.
 

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No one can truly handle the rinnegan except for the owner, regardless of that however there is still utilization of what each doujustu gives you.
Senjustu takes a lot of training and Obito did a juubi's worth of rikudou senjustu by will alone, so sure enough nagato(maybe) and sasuke can probably do the same.
But in this thread I'm discussing a hand outs worth of rikudou senjustu/sagemode and rikudou chakra.
Nothing too fancy or too thorough.

I meant chakra wise like nagato could handle the rinnegan dispute being in an incapacitated state, I didn't mean power wise, but like I said it depends on the person, obito did so through will, and madara, having never had senjutsu before did so on his first try with little difficulty, so it's possible to handle the handouts if one has the capacity too whether by finding one or already having one.
 

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Naruto is too clumsy and prefers to rely on others so his rinnegan skills would flop.

Sasuke prefers to work alone and he prefers to be analytical with his dojutsu so his senjutsu skills will flop.
 

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I meant chakra wise like nagato could handle the rinnegan dispute being in an incapacitated state, I didn't mean power wise, but like I said it depends on the person, obito did so through will, and madara, having never had senjutsu before did so on his first try with little difficulty, so it's possible to handle the handouts if one has the capacity too whether by finding one or already having one.

Exactly what does chakra wise mean if the opposing party is given out equal portions of the opposite power?

DMS Obito had senjustu, but when he gave Kakashi power it came out to be a lot of rikudou chakra to create Complete perfect Susanoo.

So my scenario is what if you give the rikudou chakra holders senjustu?

They're constantly pulling massive amounts of energy to maintain it, there's almost no way of losing rikuodu chakra.

No taxing, coughing blood, and losing control of the eyes.

Same goes vice versa

Naruto is too clumsy and prefers to rely on others so his rinnegan skills would flop.

Sasuke prefers to work alone and he prefers to be analytical with his dojutsu so his senjutsu skills will flop.

This process is not on how to attain it, but on how they would use it instead.

So you're telling me that Sasuke wouldn't use tsb?
 
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Naruto is too clumsy and prefers to rely on others so his rinnegan skills would flop.

Sasuke prefers to work alone and he prefers to be analytical with his dojutsu so his senjutsu skills will flop.

I can see Naruto using Shadow clones with 6 paths and he can also use chakra chains from Outer Path and 5 element Rasen Shuriken

Sasuke would combine his Susanoo with KKG elements and Nunoboku sword and he would also use TSB as a Susanoo shield
 

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Exactly what does chakra wise mean if the opposing party is given out equal portions of the opposite power?

DMS Obito had senjustu, but when he gave Kakashi power it came out to be a lot of rikudou chakra to create Complete perfect Susanoo.

So my scenario is what if you give the rikudou chakra holders senjustu?

They're constantly pulling massive amounts of energy to maintain it, there's almost no way of losing rikuodu chakra.

No taxing, coughing blood, and losing control of the eyes.

Same goes vice versa



This process is not on how to attain it, but on how they would use it instead.

So you're telling me that Sasuke wouldn't use tsb?

Wait what? I thought the senjutsu came from the chakra obito still had inside when he attacked madara he could still make his own shujuko plus DMS obito was in the process of dying anyway. Chakra wise refers to the quality and/or quality of chakra. Basically if you lack massive chakra quantity you cannot maintain rikoido senjutsu and if you don't have massive chakra quality you can't maintain rikoudo chakra such as a rinnegan. But with large chakra quality you can maintain large chakra quality and with large chakra quantity you can maintain large chakra quality. For example lets take one jutsu and 2 bars for the average person 2 jutsus equal two bars. But lets try uchiha and senju. Uchiha is prime example for chakra quality and senju is a prime example of quantity of chakra. An uchiha would only use half a bar due to chakra quality and the senju would have 4 bars now due to chakra quality but still use 1 jutsu one bar. 4 jutsus equal four bars and since an uchiha uses half one half a bar is one jutsu, in the end 4 jutsus and they are pretty even, so as long as chairs quality>=quantity or vise versa than the person who can handle rikoido chakra can handle rikoido handout senjutsu and vise versa.
 
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I think all of these characters have massive amount of will depending on their motive.

true however. naruto's will has proven time and time again. he also has an edge having bijuu chakra. rinnegan with riku is still one down in my opinion. maybe throw in the third eye like kaguya then maybe you have a brain teaser.
 

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true however. naruto's will has proven time and time again. he also has an edge having bijuu chakra. rinnegan with riku is still one down in my opinion. maybe throw in the third eye like kaguya then maybe you have a brain teaser.

That's what I thought would be interesting, but what the rinnegan's?GM ability in controlling the bijuus?

Someone like Sasuke who took the bijuus to make his Gedo Susanoo could do the same again, but only this time senjustu.

He would have hardly no physical depletion and massive amounts of gudodamas thanks to preta.

Kagauya's eyes would be interesting, but I it would only be good for IT correct?

You can allways use Obito's method for IT.
 
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That's what I thought would be interesting, but what the rinnegan's?GM ability in controlling the bijuus?

Someone like Sasuke who took the bijuus to make his Gedo Susanoo could do the same again, but only this time senjustu.

He would have hardly no physical depletion and massive amounts of gudodamas thanks to preta.

Kagauya's eyes would be interesting, but I it would only be good for IT correct?

You can allways use Obito's method for IT.

very plausible and valid point. nice thread
 

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Naruto is too clumsy and prefers to rely on others so his rinnegan skills would flop.

Sasuke prefers to work alone and he prefers to be analytical with his dojutsu so his senjutsu skills will flop.
Naruto is adept at using kagebunshin, his skillset experience would go nicely with rinnegan six path techniques. Combined with his RSM(Universal Knowledge) and kagebunshin training method, he'd master the rinnegan far faster and better than anyone ever could. :bdpf:
 

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Nagato, and Obito (before becoming JJ) were not Rikudo Chakra users, if they were, then they would have been on a much higher level than what they are in the manga
getting an implanted rinnegan doesnt just give you the rikudo chakra, especially when we consider the fact that it requires both the indra and ashura to gain the rikudo chakra which enables you the rinnegan,
nagato didnt have either, whilst obito didnt have the indra

as for the boost itself,
Rikudo Chakra and Rikudo Senjutsu chakra is essentially the same thing,
we have already seen Sasuke and naruto getting the same boost after getting their respective half above,
 

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The difference is basically, one has the Chakra of Rikudou while the other has that Chakra and is fused with Senjutsu Chakra as well. In regards to your question; that is totally dependent on how much of that Chakra one possess.
 
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