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Kirin was faster than lightning. I believe if he could keep up with it with one eye blind and exhausted, then He could keep up with Naruto's shunshin speed.
[VS] Rikudo Naruto VS Akatsuki
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Kirin was faster than lightning. I believe if he could keep up with it with one eye blind and exhausted, then He could keep up with Naruto's shunshin speed.
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Bold part is fanfic. What i said is the absolute truth:
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Tobi is stronger than Nagato clearly and Rsm Naruto is superior to both. Tobi has Rikudou power as well.
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There’s no such thing as lighting being faster than light. That doesn’t make any scientific sense at all. Please throw away that garbage fan translation. The official databook doesn’t say any of that:
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Naruto wrecks ninety nine out of a hundred times, and that one time is assuming the Akatsuki has prep time to plan and Obito manages to be lucky enough to get past Kurama's avatar with Kamui and draw some blood off Naruto and getting it back to Hidan without getting absolutely mauled in the process.
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Im serious. Assuming he can make enough clones Then it becomes 1v1's in which he's superior to 90% of the akatsuki
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BZ was observing and thought it's natural lighting falling down....it's Sasuke's self made technique, he can increase it's speed if he wants....the original translation agrees with me, it says "Flash" which is another way of saying "in a flash of light" as in "light-speed".....
You can't bring science to justify happenings in the manga......Sasuke even compared Kirin to Amaterasu's speed which is fast as they eye can see which is light-speed.
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No matter how fast Sasuke makes his lightning, it can never reach the speed of light because it is physically impossible and Zetsu already said that it's 1/1000 of a second mean that Kirin is 0.001 seconds, light is way faster than that.
You're really making yourself look bad by saying that lightning is light speed, as a friend I urge you stop because it really doesn't look good.
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That is not even what I'm talking about.
BZ doesnt know the technique......
He only knows the speed of normal naturally occuring lightning in NV........Sasuke didn't pull out natural lightning out of the sky without making it his own.......It's a technique which he created which needs the curse mark to use......are you saying all light beam techniques (Daruis's laser beam and madara's laser beam) are of the same speed.....? No....of course they've variations in speed....Sasuke even compared Amaterasu to Kirin and former technique is light-speed as our eyes see things at the speed of light........
The content talks only about Izanagi, nothing else. It doesn't say anything about Uchihas having Rikudo's power or Chakra. Madara, an incarnate of Indra and strongest Uchiha, never had the Rikudo's power until he awoke the Rinnegan.
Nagato > Obito by his own (Kishimoto) words. Obito only had the Rikudo's power when he was Jinchuriki and stole Rikudo Senjutsu from Madara, and none of those two materials are given to him in this matchup, so he's a fodder in front of Naruto.
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Every akatsuki member dies after one TBBRS tobi survives because of kamui then gets blitzd.
Naruto wins low difficulty. How dumb can some members be
Naruto wins low difficulty. How dumb can some members be
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The context talks Izanagi's origins being an application of Creation of all things and the power that it requires to use it. I don't know why you weren't able to read that part carefully or understand it but it was said that the Sage had the power and bloodline of both clans (uchiha and senju). And he used this power to create the beasts using the Ten tails with COAT technique. He goes on to say that Izanagi is a Six path power which he has because he combined both powers and bloodlines of the Sage.
I never said that Madara gained Six path powers before the rinnegan, I said that all Uchiha's inherited the mental energy of the Sage of Six paths. That's what the sharingan is, while the Senjus inherited the physical energy from the Sage of six paths. I even posted not only the manga but the translated DB says this as well in which you ignored
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Kishi never said that. It was always clear that Tobi > Nagato because he was the master mind giving orders.
Obito had the rinnegan at one point too, so if you're going to discredit that then you have no business saying Nagato had Six path powers either but besides that point you are wrong once again.
Obito here with no rinnegan or Six path senjutsu gave Kakashi Six path power
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and you can't give rikudou senjutsu to people who cannot use Sage Mode otherwise everyone in the war would've had BSM mode like Naruto so that Obito stealing Madara's senjutsu to turn BZ into a tsb point that you just brought up is pointless. He confirmed this to Konan, Kakashi said that Obito's six path power strengthened him and he was able to learn Six path jutsu from Madara (Gedo arts) which requires Six path powers to use them in the first place.So instead of hand picking what you think is right, you have o read the whole thing before you come to a conclusion.
Both Tobi and Nagato are fodder to Rsm Naruto, it would be senile to think either of them alone would push naruto to high diff.
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Jesus Christ...
1. The whole content you posted is outdated and contradicted later on, because the combination of Chakras by Indra and Ashura is what gives Rikudo's power, not DNA of Uchiha and Senju Clans. Hagoromo and Negroid Zetsu both said this, making everything from chapter 510 literally outdated and invalid. As it happens, Obito whom you love to call Tobi was a tool repeating everything Madara taught him, who happened to also be tool manipulated by Negro Zetsu. So neither Obito nor Itachi have Rikudo powers. They are just descendants of Indra with diluted inherited power that makes no relevance.
2. Obito whom you love to call Tobi admitted inferiority to Nagato by calling him the unbeatable, and along with Konan calling him the invincible in Obito's presence before Nagato invaded Konoha. Kishimoto portrayed Nagato as strongest Akatsuki member, and you think you know more about the manga than the writer? It's about time you get your balloon-shaped head out of Obito's (whom you love to call Tobi) ass.
3. This was addressed. Obito only has Six Paths Chakra when he's Jinchuriki or steals it from Madara or when he has Rinnegan (which he can't use other than Outer Path). None of these forms are given to him, and even if they are given to him with exception of Jinchuriki, he's still fodder in front of RSM Naruto and Nagato.
RSM Naruto > Nagato > Akatsuki.
1. The whole content you posted is outdated and contradicted later on, because the combination of Chakras by Indra and Ashura is what gives Rikudo's power, not DNA of Uchiha and Senju Clans. Hagoromo and Negroid Zetsu both said this, making everything from chapter 510 literally outdated and invalid. As it happens, Obito whom you love to call Tobi was a tool repeating everything Madara taught him, who happened to also be tool manipulated by Negro Zetsu. So neither Obito nor Itachi have Rikudo powers. They are just descendants of Indra with diluted inherited power that makes no relevance.
2. Obito whom you love to call Tobi admitted inferiority to Nagato by calling him the unbeatable, and along with Konan calling him the invincible in Obito's presence before Nagato invaded Konoha. Kishimoto portrayed Nagato as strongest Akatsuki member, and you think you know more about the manga than the writer? It's about time you get your balloon-shaped head out of Obito's (whom you love to call Tobi) ass.
3. This was addressed. Obito only has Six Paths Chakra when he's Jinchuriki or steals it from Madara or when he has Rinnegan (which he can't use other than Outer Path). None of these forms are given to him, and even if they are given to him with exception of Jinchuriki, he's still fodder in front of RSM Naruto and Nagato.
RSM Naruto > Nagato > Akatsuki.
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What? :| It's like you read what you want to read because the last time I checked Kakashi receiving Six path chakra from Obito had nothing to do with Ashura or Indra so your little headcanon is as invalid as the little notion of your "outdated" theory when it comes to the same source of material that was repeated in the 4th databook after the 700th chapter.
It was already confirmed that the only part Ashura and Indra played is the awakening of the Rinnegan not the obtaining of Six path chakra/powers otherwise we would not have Dms Kakashi by now.
As for the bold part is just another fanfic again. Like the 4th Databook stated, the Uchiha clan inherited the mental energy of the Sage of Six paths.
He's Tobi whether you like it or not. Tobi himself never called Nagato "unbeatable." that was konan. But because you have that cripple's dick so far down your throat, you're too illiterate to read that he ask them a question not a statement. He questioned Nagato's claim to being unbeatable. Next time don't exclude the question mark next time, it changes the context of Tobi's statement.
Tobi himself was called an invisible immortal in the manga, but your too much of an idiot to read that part I see.
Tobi is stronger than Nagato, he gives the orders for a reason and he did what Nagato did at the age of 14 years old. So get your head out of your ass for two seconds and give up on that selective reading of yours.
Wrong. The manga said he had six path powers prior to this regardless if you like it or not. The only thing Obito took from Madara is Six path senjutsu which requires Sage mode to use at all, all other speculations is just useless nothings. Madara specifically stated that he only stole Sage power from him NOT Six path chakra.
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And since Kakashi doesn't have any access to Rikudou Sage Mode, that chakra he received from Obito is HIS Six path power. Nagato is nothing but a fodder to Tobi and that's just something that you need to deal with.
RSM Naruto > Tobi >> Akatsuki
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No way it would be that easy. You could argue one on one but it would be the full akatsuki vs BM Naruto
Obito (Kamui, Gedo)
Kisame (Samedadah)
Nagato (Paths )
Itachi (Susanoo,Ama,Totsuka,Tsukyomi)
Deidara (C0 clones)
Kakuza (Elemental mask)
Konan (Paper techs)
Sasori (Poison needle spammage
Hidan
There are just too many combination attacks at play for BM naruto to handle.
Obito and Hidan can use Kamui attacks to steal blood
Deva Path and Itachi can use combination attacks
Konan and Sasori can use combination attacks
Obito can kamui the entire akatsuki while Kisame and Deidara use their AOE abilities.
Obito alone gave BM naruto a hard time during their troll combat.
Im giving the victory to Akatsuki high difficulty if its BM naruto since it's just too much for him to handle at once.
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the clones force 1v1's without help from their partners. And against the bottom half of the akatsuki BSM naruto clone or not will shit. the only real problem would stem from obito, itachi, kisame, and deva. The rest get spanked. Even kcm clones were fighting kage's let alone a BSM clone.