rikudo chakra enhanced DMS's kamui is faster than Rikudo naruto's top speed

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Glad we finally can agree ,debating with you was really fruitful

Yeah, me too, same with me buddy.

Actually I see Kakashi or Obito being able to warp RSM Naruto if he is flying in straight line, but if he was flying in zig-zag pattern then I believe Naruto would be too unpredictable(his most known title) for them to catch him.

In the end it would come to who can outlast another, and yes they could be able to see Naruto's speed and percieve it, even if unable to react physically , phasing would be fast enough.

Unless Naruto used clones , it would surely comes to who make error first due to chakra exhaustion. Of course intel would be necessary on both sides as well, as without intel it would be random winner lol.

What do you think about this way of thinking buddy ?
 

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Yeah, me too, same with me buddy.

Actually I see Kakashi or Obito being able to warp RSM Naruto if he is flying in straight line, but if he was flying in zig-zag pattern then I believe Naruto would be too unpredictable(his most known title) for them to catch him.

In the end it would come to who can outlast another, and yes they could be able to see Naruto's speed and percieve it, even if unable to react physically , phasing would be fast enough.

Unless Naruto used clones , it would surely comes to who make error first due to chakra exhaustion. Of course intel would be necessary on both sides as well, as without intel it would be random winner lol.

What do you think about this way of thinking buddy ?

Yes,clones is really pain to kamui snipe user
 

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Yes,clones is really pain to kamui snipe user

and what about:

flying in zig-zag pattern then I believe Naruto would be too unpredictable(his most known title) for them to catch him ?

what do you think about bold part ?
 

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DMS Kakashi also reacted to Kaguya's S/T portal and executed long range Kamui to outspeed and outperform it before it even finished ( )( ). The same S/T portal that Rinnegan Rikudo Sasuke couldn't react and BSM Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto could barely react and evade ( )( )( ).
 

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If you wanted a direct comparison dms kakashi already did it. Instead of using the work around via dms obito.
 

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That is why I said before Kamui making distance a null, it speed is not about user movement like Naruto flying, but the jutsu own movement, its different thing altogather,

its like black hole in nature, but the user can control it speed depending on situation and need
 

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and what about:

flying in zig-zag pattern then I believe Naruto would be too unpredictable(his most known title) for them to catch him ?

what do you think about bold part ?

Firstly,there is no proof that he would be unpredictable to them seeing how DMS kakashi clearly perceived powered up kaguya's speed which was said to overwhelme Thiers by BZ(including naruto)

Secondly,we never saw naruto move at zig zag pattern ,you don't know if that would decrease his speed too ,what manga showed is that ,naruto's top speed applies on moving at straight or nearly straight lines ,we don't know if that applies on moving at zig zag pattern
 

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If you wanted a direct comparison dms kakashi already did it. Instead of using the work around via dms obito.

But some people say that naruto was using his top speed when kakashi warped the bone comparing to sasuke's speed then
That is why I didn't want to use it to show my point
 

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okay....but rinnegan blitz is faster than that.
 

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Firstly,there is no proof that he would be unpredictable to them seeing how DMS kakashi clearly perceived powered up kaguya's speed which was said to overwhelme Thiers by BZ(including naruto)

Secondly,we never saw naruto move at zig zag pattern ,you don't know if that would decrease his speed too ,what manga showed is that ,naruto's top speed applies on moving at straight or nearly straight lines ,we don't know if that applies on moving at zig zag pattern

Actually I dont saw any different in speed between powerup and non powerup Kaguya either.Lol

But Zig and Zag is not a problem, because Kamui snipe is not like sniper bullet, where's sniper bullet will surely miss the target (consider the target is goku) if the target aware of it and moving before the bullet arrive.

But Kamui snipe not having a travelling bullet or a travelling bullet it self, but its activated DIRECTLY on the target, example is on Gedo Mazo.

When DMS Obito is pin pointing on Naruto, he will just kamui snipe it like that zig zag or not and Naruto will lose his targeted body.
 
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If you wanted a direct comparison dms kakashi already did it. Instead of using the work around via dms obito.

Here he goes again with that bullshit, even although he aleady lost argument about it.

Firstly,there is no proof that he would be unpredictable to them seeing how DMS kakashi clearly perceived powered up kaguya's speed which was said to overwhelme Thiers by BZ(including naruto)

Secondly,we never saw naruto move at zig zag pattern ,you don't know if that would decrease his speed too ,what manga showed is that ,naruto's top speed applies on moving at straight or nearly straight lines ,we don't know if that applies on moving at zig zag pattern

Ok, fair enough.
 

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S/T jutsu > speed
 

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I think konan's statement is mistranslated, rest i agree.
 

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Bullshit that op agrees with. Hmmm.

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Mangafax isn't bs

well I thought you meant Kamui Raikiri blitz.

Anyway, Naruto still managed to move even if a bit
 

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okay....but rinnegan blitz is faster than that.
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Funny fact, by the time sasuke got to other side, naruto managed to raise his hand :rolleyes:
 

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Funny fact, by the time sasuke got to other side, naruto managed to raise his hand :rolleyes:

And the point is, what actually Sasuke trying to do? I dont saw any diferent.
 
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