rikudo chakra enhanced DMS's kamui is faster than Rikudo naruto's top speed

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Hello everybody ,I just felt some underrating from some people to kamui's speed ,so I just wanted to show how fast rikudo chakra enhanced DMS's kamui is through one of its overlooked incredible feats

RSM naruto was struggling and doing his best to entre kaguya's portal before closing ,yet he failed ,though he was just about 2 meters away from this portal
In the other hand ,DMS obito was able to teleport himself along with sakura and naruto's clone before this portal closed

Here kaguya opened the portal ,
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and you can see in the right bottom panel from the same page naruto's saying that he the real one would go ,while the left bottom panel shows how close naruto was to kaguya's portal ,and also shows naruto using his full speed in order to entre this portal before closing

Here obito teleporting with sakura and naruto's clone
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And you can see in the right middle panel in the same page naruto 's using chakra legs to push himself in order to increase his speed to its limit ,yet he failed to entre this portal before it closed

Conclusion:this means that DMS obito's teleporting three human object is faster than RSM naruto's moving 2 meters with his top speed

If obito had teleported himself only ,it would have been like 2x faster than naruto's moving 2 meters ( faster than naruto's moving one meter )

But according to konan ,self warping is slower than warping other objects
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That means DMS obito's warping human sized object would be faster than obito's teleporting himself and much faster than naruto's moving one meter

If DMS obito /kakashi warped human's neck sized object ,it would be much much faster than RSM naruto 's moving one meter with his top speed

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Didn't read.

Learn to post images.
 

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Yup Kamui went into the portal before Naruto U_U
 

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People who say nope and nah are in denial
They don't even try to explain why they think that ,they just refuse what manga clearly showed
DMS obito and kakashi's kamui snipe is faster than RSM naruto's top speed ( manga fact ,deal with it)Lol
 

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Hello everybody ,I just felt some underrating from some people to kamui's speed ,so I just wanted to show how fast rikudo chakra enhanced DMS's kamui is through one of its overlooked incredible feats

Ok, let's do it

RSM naruto was struggling and doing his best to entre kaguya's portal before closing ,yet he failed ,though he was just about 2 meters away from this portal
In the other hand ,DMS obito was able to teleport himself along with sakura and naruto's clone before this portal closed

Where did you see RSM Naruto struggling ?

@ bold part, 2 meters, really ?, what a bunch of fanfiction.

Either it was about same distance as Kakashi and Kaguya when they few towards each other at full speed, or even a little bigger, it could be perspective view anyway so I doubt any of our guesses are certainly correct.

Here kaguya opened the portal ,
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and you can see in the right bottom panel from the same page naruto's saying that he the real one would go ,while the left bottom panel shows how close naruto was to kaguya's portal ,and also shows naruto using his full speed in order to entre this portal before closing

It could be perspective view, also it Kakashi is also close or even closer then Naruto when he striked Kaguya with Kamui Raikiri, so what is your point ?

Here obito teleporting with sakura and naruto's clone
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And you can see in the right middle panel in the same page naruto 's using chakra legs to push himself in order to increase his speed to its limit ,yet he failed to entre this portal before it closed

Ok, I see

@ bold part, wtf ? Where do you see it ? or maybe you made out it yourself in your mind ;p

Conclusion:this means that DMS obito's teleporting three human object is faster than RSM naruto's moving 2 meters with his top speed

I really wanted to take you seriously and debate, but the distance you estimated show that you have no knowledge how to estimate distance in manga World. Learn that stuff, before trying to do that next time.

If obito had teleported himself only ,it would have been like 2x faster than naruto's moving 2 meters ( faster than naruto's moving one meter )

From where did you pull out this bullshit ?

But according to konan ,self warping is slower than warping other objects
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That means DMS obito's warping human sized object would be faster than obito's teleporting himself and much faster than naruto's moving one meter

Again, your estimation of distance failed, one meter just please do not make such jokes anymore.

Everything else make sense, but once you included distance you fail miserably.

If DMS obito /kakashi warped human's neck sized object ,it would be much much faster than RSM naruto 's moving one meter with his top speed

Thanks for reading

^^ see all replies above.

No problem man

People who say nope and nah are in denial
They don't even try to explain why they think that ,they just refuse what manga clearly showed
DMS obito and kakashi's kamui snipe is faster than RSM naruto's top speed ( manga fact ,deal with it)Lol

For once I agree with you that saying just nope or nah is not reason and should be ignored as that.

DMS Obito and Kakashi's Kamui snipe ENHANCED WITH RIKUDOU CHAKRA(without it, it would have no chance against god speed tiers) may be on par with RSM Naruto's top speed while he is already moving.

However Naruto's reaction time is quite a bit above Kamui's snipe activation so once Naruto react faster he can escape from it, but with a lot of efforts put into it. Now if Kamui could follow him and he was going to fly in straight line then sure they could warp him, or have close chance to do that.

However If Naruto decided to fly in zig-zag manner then neither Obito or Kakashi has chance to Kamui snipe him
 
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You know that Kamui not needed to move a distance to entering dimension like RSM Naruto that is flying.

Distance is null for Kamui, once Obito has sync with Kaguya portal, He just Kamui'd himself with the others.

Even the real Naruto is just a decoy to confused Kaguya and not having any intention to enter it
 

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Ok, let's do it



Where did you see RSM Naruto struggling ?

@ bold part, 2 meters, really ?, what a bunch of fanfiction.

Either it was about same distance as Kakashi and Kaguya when they few towards each other at full speed, or even a little bigger, it could be perspective view anyway so I doubt any of our guesses are certainly correct.



It could be perspective view, also it Kakashi is also close or even closer then Naruto when he striked Kaguya with Kamui Raikiri, so what is your point ?



Ok, I see

@ bold part, wtf ? Where do you see it ? or maybe you made out it yourself in your mind ;p



I really wanted to take you seriously and debate, but the distance you estimated show that you have no knowledge how to estimate distance in manga World. Learn that stuff, before trying to do that next time.



From where did you pull out this bullshit ?



Again, your estimation of distance failed, one meter just please do not make such jokes anymore.

Everything else make sense, but once you included distance you fail miserably.



^^ see all replies above.

No problem man



For once I agree with you that saying just nope or nah is not reason and should be ignored as that.

DMS Obito and Kakashi's Kamui snipe ENHANCED WITH RIKUDOU CHAKRA(without it, it would have no chance against god speed tiers) may be on par with RSM Naruto's top speed while he is already moving.

However If Naruto stationary, then Naruto's reaction time is quite a bit above Kamui's snipe activation so once Naruto react faster he can escape from it, but with a lot of efforts put into it. Now if Kamui could follow him and he was going to fly in straight line then sure they could warp him, or have close chance to do that.

However If Naruto decided to fly in zig-zag manner then neither Obito or Kakashi has chance to Kamui snipe him

I don't know why you interfered kamui raiki here

Whatever,I deducted the 2or3 metres distance ,because of the size of the portal comparing to naruto's
Even if the distance is bigger ,what naruto moved was much less


Naruto wasn't struggling Lol,he was playing with kaguya so ,bro,he clearly was using his top speed here

About naruto's using chakra arms ,see what slide word point at ,I think that could be chakra arms
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Of course,if obito were to warp himself only(instead of himself,sakura and naruto's clone),he would have been clearly faster than that

If naruto is stationary ,then he will have no chance to evade kamui ,if kamui is already faster than naruto who is already moving ,then stationary naruto who needs first to react then move ,stands no chance
 

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You know that Kamui not needed to move a distance to entering dimension like RSM Naruto that is flying.

Distance is null for Kamui, once Obito has sync with Kaguya portal, He just Kamui'd himself with the others.

Even the real Naruto is just a decoy to confused Kaguya and not having any intention to enter it

I didn't speak about the distance between obito and the portal ,what I am saying is that ,obito's teleporting himself,sakura and naruto's clone took less time than what the real RSM naruto took to move 2 or 3/ metres with his full speed though naruto started moving before obito started using the kamui teleportation
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No,naruto wasnt decoy ,the real naruto never knew about obito's plan before the clone was beaten in the other dimension by kaguya ,so when the clone was beaten by kaguya's ash bone ,the clone's experience went to the real naruto ,so the manga showed him recognizing what obito did in the next chapter
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go reread chapter 684,685 and you will realize what I am talking about
 
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I don't know why you interfered kamui raiki here

^^ only due to scan where Kakashi supposedly blitzed kaguya from great distance, which I already proved false

Whatever,I deducted the 2or3 metres distance ,because of the size of the portal comparing to naruto's
Even if the distance is bigger ,what naruto moved was much less

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left middle panel, the distance is about the same of even smaller then what Naruto needed to cover, yet by each second Super fast flying Kaguya and fast PS flying Kakashi were approaching each other decreasing greatly distance by each second, sure Kakashi had much less to cover then Naruto.

Naruto wasn't struggling Lol,he was playing with kaguya so ,bro,he clearly was using his top speed here

You are not funny with that sarcasm. Anyway Naruto reacted faster then Obito that was shown in the manga.

It means Naruto would leave Obito's or Kakashi's field of view before Kamui would be even executed/casted.

About naruto's using chakra arms ,see what slide word point at ,I think that could be chakra arms
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Or he was just simply flying, I don't see any chakra boost from legs, he was just trying his best to get to it.
At least at that time.

Of course,if obito were to warp himself only(instead of himself,sakura and naruto's clone),he would have been clearly faster than that

Even if he was, Naruto's reaction time was shown more then enough to move before eye could be locked on him.

If naruto is stationary ,then he will have no chance to evade kamui ,if kamui is already faster than naruto who is already moving ,then stationary naruto who needs first to react then move ,stands no chance

If MS is already activated and Obito/Kakashi has him locked with their eyesight then yes, else no.

Naruto could react and begin to move before space time barrier of Kamui would be casted around him, probably barerly leaving the field.
 
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actually naruto got there faster than obito..reread it

EDIT: never mind,i mixed sth up,you were right

yes,teleportation>movement speed..in terms of making a distance....however as KCM said naruto can move so fast that the eye cant even perceive his speed so i dont think obito would cath him with his kamui snipe
 
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^^ only due to scan where Kakashi supposedly blitzed kaguya from great distance, which I already proved false



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left middle panel, the distance is about the same of even smaller then what Naruto needed to cover, yet by each second Super fast flying Kaguya and fast PS flying Kakashi were approaching each other decreasing greatly distance by each second, sure Kakashi had much less to cover then Naruto.



You are not funny with that sarcasm. Anyway Naruto reacted faster then Obito that was shown in the manga.

It means Naruto would leave Obito's or Kakashi's field of view before Kamui would be even executed/casted.



Or he was just simply flying, I don't see any chakra boost from legs, he was just trying his best to get to it.
At least at that time.



Even if he was, Naruto's reaction time was shown more then enough to move before eye could be locked on him.


If naruto is stationary ,then he will have no chance to evade kamui ,if kamui is already faster than naruto who is already moving ,then stationary naruto who needs first to react then move ,stands no chance

If MS is already activated and Obito/Kakashi has him locked with their eyesight then yes, else no.

Naruto could react and begin to move before space time barrier of Kamui would be casted around him, probably barerly leaving the field.

I won't reply to kamui raiki part ,if you want to prove that naruto is faster than kakashi's foot speed then yes I agree


No, Naruto can't evade kamui barrier appearing ,that is instant(not the kamui overall but the barrier appearing),it is like how naruto ,madara or even kaguya can't evade minato's appearing in front of them by ftg or sasuke's appearing in front of them by rinn shifting ,they may can evade minato and sasuke's arm movements afterwards but the instant appearing no ,the same goes for kamui appearing
Kakashi's kamui on kaguya's bone and the portal may can help you understand what I am talking about ,kamui appeared instantly before the bone moves 1 cm regardless of the distance ,kamui barrier doesn't travel ,it appears instantly on the target then it absorbs the target to the other dimension and that what isn't instant but nearly instant when it comes to small targets
 
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actually naruto got there faster than obito..reread it

EDIT: never mind,i mixed sth up,you were right

yes,teleportation>movement speed..in terms of making a distance....however as KCM said naruto can move so fast that the eye cant even perceive his speed so i dont think obito would cath him with his kamui snipe

DMS kakashi clearly perceived powered up kaguya's speed which easily exceeds naruto's
 

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I won't reply to kamui raiki part ,if you want to prove that naruto is faster than kakashi's foot speed then yes I agree

^^ ok, I am glad we agree here.

No, Naruto can't evade kamui barrier appearing ,that is instant(not the kamui overall but the barrier appearing),it is like how naruto ,madara or even kaguya can't evade minato's appearing in front of them by ftg or sasuke's appearing in front of them by rinn shifting ,they may can evade minato and sasuke's arm movements afterwards but the instant appearing no ,the same goes for kamui appearing

I know what you meant... yeah You are right about it. I only assumed with high speed reaction time of RSM Naruto which should even surprass Kakashi or Obito's reaction time which required to cast Kamui it is possible for Naruto to move before Kamui is even enabled/casted(Yeah i know it is instant.).

It may be nigh possible but still theoretically there is chance for him to do it in time and move out of field before Kamui is casted, but he would move almost and light speed...
Kakashi's kamui on kaguya's bone and the portal may can help you understand what I am talking about ,kamui appeared instantly before the bone moves 1 cm regardless of the distance ,kamui barrier doesn't travel ,it appears instantly on the target then it absorbs the target to the other dimension and that what isn't instant but nearly instant when it comes to small targets
 

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^^ ok, I am glad we agree here.



I know what you meant... yeah You are right about it. I only assumed with high speed reaction time of RSM Naruto which should even surprass Kakashi or Obito's reaction time which required to cast Kamui it is possible for Naruto to move before Kamui is even enabled/casted(Yeah i know it is instant.).

It may be nigh possible but still theoretically there is chance for him to do it in time and move out of field before Kamui is casted, but he would move almost and light speed...
Kakashi's kamui on kaguya's bone and the portal may can help you understand what I am talking about ,kamui appeared instantly before the bone moves 1 cm regardless of the distance ,kamui barrier doesn't travel ,it appears instantly on the target then it absorbs the target to the other dimension and that what isn't instant but nearly instant when it comes to small targets

Glad that we finally can agree ,debating with you was really fruitful
 
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