Revoking eddy's mud explosion jutsu

[Hellsbadass]

Lmao that jutsu is mine

On one side, the concept is the same, and in theory, since Mud= Earth+ Water, he would need to know how to explode Earth and Water, since one of the requirements to use mud is mastery over earth and water elements. Plus, the concept is the same, but then no other elemental explosion could be allowed.

On the other hand, mud is a specific CE which only a few ppl can use so they're the only ones who know how to control it. The problem here is, are you judging the explosion, based on mud being a combo of two elements or a simple element? I remember seeing this arguement regarding a Fire and Wind combo vs a Wood technique. I think it was TenzoX against Hasashi but im not sure. Whatever, that doesn't mind O_O.
Also, if that jutsu were to be revoked, all jutsus would need to, which in fact didn't happened with me with my Pyramid of Doom. I admit that jutsu was ridiculously oped and it was fair for the rest of RP'ers when Rei declined it, however it was completely unfair to me since there are still other extremely oped jutsus out there. And for this i have to ''blame'' Rei. If you do this to one person, you do to all the others, otherwise it will be completely unfair.


So the only thing i have to say is.. nothing :| both of the options make sense. And once again, this happened to me and others' jutsus weren't revoked, which i found completely unfair to me. Yeah, the jutsu was oped and didnt make sense, however that wasn't my fault since i wasn't the one checking that jutsu.

but dude =| any1 can use mud its in the offical earth jutsus >_> i don't know why it would need to be a c. element in the first place.

that is unfair =|

 

[Typhon]

I really don't get why this is a big deal. . .its not like [Insert Element] Explosion is a very original idea so I don't see how you can claim its being ripped. Even though its similar, and may have been influenced by your jutsu, its not the same thing. Its a different element so its a different jutsu.

And technically when thinking of a custom element its not x and y elements, its z. Its a completely new element that has its own properties. Since the mud element was approved in the CE thread, it falls under the same idea.

Now if you want to talk about whether mud should be considered a CE thats a completely different discussion. Since its on the official list and we know its just a type of earth technique (from the manga) I don't see why it should have been approved as a CE. All of the techniques created using mud as a CE could have just been made in the custom jutsu thread.

 

[Hellsbadass]

I really don't get why this is a big deal. . .its not like [Insert Element] Explosion is a very original idea so I don't see how you can claim its being ripped. Even though its similar, and may have been influenced by your jutsu, its not the same thing. Its a different element so its a different jutsu.

And technically when thinking of a custom element its not x and y elements, its z. Its a completely new element that has its own properties. Since the mud element was approved in the CE thread, it falls under the same idea.

Now if you want to talk about whether mud should be considered a CE thats a completely different discussion. Since its on the official list and we know its just a type of earth technique (from the manga) I don't see why it should have been approved as a CE. All of the techniques created using mud as a CE could have just been made in the custom jutsu thread.

dude mud element is based on earth an water =| its not a singal element

and since it needs to know both elements to use it, he should have gotten premission first before he could create that mud explosion

 

[Typhon]

dude mud element is based on earth an water =| its not a singal element

and since it needs to know both elements to use it, he should have gotten premission first before he could create that mud explosion

Not really. Once it got approved as a CE it became a single element. Earth and Water make wood, and wood is considered its own element. Same goes for Ice, Lava, etc. They're all composed of two or more elements, but they're considered their own unique element with unique properties.

If the mud was created using an earth and a water technique then it would be two elements. But since its being created by combining earth and water CHAKRA, it exists as its own element.

 

[Hellsbadass]

Shin'en Suiton: Wakare sono Umi (Liquid Hydrogen (Abysmal Water): Parting of the Seas)

Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defense
Rank: A
Range: Short (water source must be close, attack range depends on water source)
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage: 60
Description: The user preforms a series of hand seals and slams their palms on the ground in front of an incoming water attack or on top of a water source. The water all around the user instantly parts creating an open path with tall walls of water on both sides. This can be used to part incoming water attacks or to part an existing water source such as a lake. The water will remain parted for two turns, or until the user chooses to collapse them. The user will also turn the water into Liquid Hydrogen (Abysmal Water)
~Requires a water source.
~User can get caught when the walls collapse.
~Can only be used twice per match.
~Can only be taught by Hellsbadass

=|
is this your jutsu now?

 

[Typhon]

Is that one of your customs or did you just make it to prove a point?

 

[Hellsbadass]

Is that one of your customs or did you just make it to prove a point?

i just copied your jutsu and changed the water into LH =|
yes i am doing this to make a point. since LH is based on lightning, water and chakra, i do not need to learn your jutsu so i am ripping in a way that no mod could delcine it and will not be considered as a ripped off/ stolen jutsu

 

[Typhon]

i just copied your jutsu and changed the water into LH =|
yes i am doing this to make a point. since LH is based on lightning, water and chakra, i do not need to learn your jutsu so i am ripping in a way that no mod could delcine it and will not be considered as a ripped off/ stolen jutsu

If you submit that and it gets approved go ahead, though I doubt it will. It doesn't really make any sense....


Your water explosion isn't a very original idea. We've seen things such as sand, clones etc. have explosive effects many times in the manga. So why is it a rip of your jutsu and not just inspired by that stuff?


(Mokuton Hijutsu: Jukai Koutan/Bakuha) - Secrect Wood Style: Birth Of Dense Woodland/Explosion
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60(+20 if you capture opponent and make the tree explode)
Description: Creates a forest that can either Attack.defend,or imprison the enemy.


Is your jutsu not a rip off of that?

 

[Hellsbadass]

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=|
it traps the opponent in a tree and then he uses a fire based element to ignite the tree =| or he makes the tree rub it self until it catches on fire

my jutsu is different =|
it involves sending chakra into the water, compressing the water and making the particals in the water to vibrate at high speeds which causes it to explode and when it explodes it does not catches on fire =\ its splatters away


Edit: for shadow clone explosion, its sorta similar. I know shdow clone explosion and i want to try it on a water clone, so why cannot i modify it? we do it all the time. there are a billion new rasengan moves with different elements and elemental variations

example:
senpai's water drill resangan =| the user creates a water rasengan and then makes it into a drill
senpai's water dragon resangan =\ the user creates a water rasengan which turns into a water dragon that hits the opponent head on like a rasengan spiral way
void rasengan
chidori rasengan
wind rasengan (i know its not a cutsom, but naruto needed to know rasengan first before he could use and create wind rasengan)

and if u tried creating a new element dragon rasengan it would be declined since a water dragon rasengan custom was already created =| and the owner of that custom didn't give u permission to use it

 

[Scarface]

I say revoke it. One of my recent custom submissions was a sword that could absorb lightning, it was denied due to the fact that Alucard I guess has a jutsu that does the same thing. But "in a different way". Judging by this, its like saying I could make my own Amaterasu tech but use lightning and make my opponent instantly paralyzed :|

No...

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Hells, you keep saying that mud is a combo of earth and water, which is true. But so is Wood. It's also Earth and Water. So if someone makes a wood explosion (which I think they recently did...) They should also have to learn yours first? I don't think so.

It's a different element. Yes it has water in it, meaning you could explode it with your water explosion too if you wanted, but its still a different jutsu.

 

[BlacKing]

Hells, you keep saying that mud is a combo of earth and water, which is true. But so is Wood. It's also Earth and Water. So if someone makes a wood explosion (which I think they recently did...) They should also have to learn yours first? I don't think so.

It's a different element. Yes it has water in it, meaning you could explode it with your water explosion too if you wanted, but its still a different jutsu.

Yes, Jinbei made wood explosion.

The difference in argument is that mud still has the properties of water and earth, whether it be classified as a CE or not.

Hells is disputing this. Now the fact that it is a CE he cannot change. But to explode Mud he is saying that you have to know how to explode water and earth, not just on or the other. Which is why I came up with the learn each others moves, restrict it so that neither can use the others CJ. Then make a better CJ that only each other could use and not against each other.

 

[Alucard]

dude mud element is based on earth an water =| its not a singal element

and since it needs to know both elements to use it, he should have gotten premission first before he could create that mud explosion

I have to agree mud shouldn't be a CE. It's like ash which sin tried to make a ce if im not mistaken-

Your water explosion isn't a very original idea. We've seen things such as sand, clones etc. have explosive effects many times in the manga. So why is it a rip of your jutsu and not just inspired by that stuff?

He is telling it's a rip off, not because it explodes the element, but because you need to know water explosion to make mud explode. Like a requirement, since you need mastery over water and earth in order to use mud (again, if im not mistaken)

 

[BlacKing]

I have to agree mud shouldn't be a CE. It's like ash which sin tried to make a ce if im not mistaken-



He is telling it's a rip off, not because it explodes the element, but because you need to know water explosion to make mud explode. Like a requirement, since you need mastery over water and earth in order to use mud (again, if im not mistaken)

AHHHHHHH someone tried to make ash a CE and it failed?

Damn me. I was going to make that. I already had it in the works. FML

 

[Kaziname]

I will just add to this "Mud is not CE" thing: For example, Hiruzen used some mud jutsus but no one ever said that it was some KG of his, meaning that it was normal earth jutsu. Even if it was his KG, which is most definitely not, then it would already be made.

 

[Christolo]

Sereously. Ya cant steal someone's jutsu and change the name{Like Orran said}

 

[Rei]

Lmao that jutsu is mine

On one side, the concept is the same, and in theory, since Mud= Earth+ Water, he would need to know how to explode Earth and Water, since one of the requirements to use mud is mastery over earth and water elements. Plus, the concept is the same, but then no other elemental explosion could be allowed.

On the other hand, mud is a specific CE which only a few ppl can use so they're the only ones who know how to control it. The problem here is, are you judging the explosion, based on mud being a combo of two elements or a simple element? I remember seeing this arguement regarding a Fire and Wind combo vs a Wood technique. I think it was TenzoX against Hasashi but im not sure. Whatever, that doesn't mind O_O.
Also, if that jutsu were to be revoked, all jutsus would need to, which in fact didn't happened with me with my Pyramid of Doom. I admit that jutsu was ridiculously oped and it was fair for the rest of RP'ers when Rei declined it, however it was completely unfair to me since there are still other extremely oped jutsus out there. And for this i have to ''blame'' Rei. If you do this to one person, you do to all the others, otherwise it will be completely unfair.


So the only thing i have to say is.. nothing :| both of the options make sense. And once again, this happened to me and others' jutsus weren't revoked, which i found completely unfair to me. Yeah, the jutsu was oped and didnt make sense, however that wasn't my fault since i wasn't the one checking that jutsu.

You are right.

Both jutsus mentioned are hereby declined for reasons of OPness (Hellsbadass & Eddy) and copyright infringement (Eddy). I find Earth explosion as submitted by HBA needed to perform this.

@HBA:

If you wanna use this Jutsu again you need to add the restriction of it being used only 3 times per battle. No need to resubmit.

@Eddy

Re-submit under another concept.