Revised theory to unlock Rinnegan, relating to Sasuke

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A while back, I posted a new version of my theory to unlock Rinnegan. I thought that it was much more probable than my original theory and at this point I simply want to add to that new idea in regards to Sasuke. Here is a link to that latest theory, please read it if your interested:



To explain the theory in short, I believe that Rinnegan is unlocked after a person with Senju DNA and EMS experiences a moment of sheer despair. To be more specific, I think its unlocked after a moment of weakness, possibly a moment where someone losses their normal self and gives in to abnormal emotions. Perhaps a moment where a prideful person gives up on their ambitions or their selfish tendencies. Frankly, there are almost countless examples of ways to feel something similar, the point is that it must be a change in one's mind, a loss of one's own self in that moment, a time where you give up on what you hold closest to you. Again, there are a lot of emotions that can relate to this so there are really limitless way to feel this, similar to how one can unlock MS in multiple ways.

To explain Madara's case, I felt that Madara stayed stoic, prideful and downright oblivious until the very end of his life. I feel that he could have potentially unlocked Rinnegan much earlier in his life, but I feel that on the verge of death, he finally let go of his selfish ways. I feel that in a moment of pure weakness and despair, Madara gave up on his evil intentions and relinquished his pride. I believe that combination of emotions unlocked his Rinnegan, after-which, he regained his composer and continued with his plans.

This is how I believe Sasuke will awaken Rinnegan, and quite soon mind you. We saw in this last chapter that Sasuke holds resentment toward Naruto and is even jealous of him. Sasuke has shown this level of jealousy before, and was one of the key motivators in regard to his decision to seek out Orochimaru. Therefore, to add to this theory, I am proposing that at a certain point soon, Sasuke will give up on his pride and jealousy, even for the briefest moment, and unlock the Rinnegan as a result. He will possibly give in to sheer despair, by feeling no way of competing with Naruto, relinquishing his pride and sense of superiority even for a moment, giving him what he needs to unlock Rinnegan. As for the Senju DNA part, some people might argue that Sasuke already has Senju DNA, be it from Zetsu clones or whatever, but this theory obviously focuses on the emotional requirement rather than the actual Senju DNA requirement.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, suggestions?
 

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Nice thought. Though I doubt coming into contact with zetsu alone gives him enough genetic material. As for awakening the rinnegan through despair it is possible but once again it leads back to my first point of sasuke lacking senju DNA
 

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Nice thought. Though I doubt coming into contact with zetsu alone gives him enough genetic material. As for awakening the rinnegan through despair it is possible but once again it leads back to my first point of sasuke lacking senju DNA
As I directly stated in the OP, this theory focuses on the emotional aspect of unlocking the Doujutsu, rather than the Senju DNA side of it. Obviously if Senju DNA alone was the requirement, Madara would have unlocked it when he was young. This is simply a way to explain why he unlocked it when he was old and why Sasuke could possibly unlock it very soon.
 

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Although I am not overly fond of the idea of Sasuke attaining the Rinnegan in particular, I have to say that things seem to be heading that way for him; and this has become more apparent to me after reading your theory. It certainly sounds plausible when you think about Madara's backstory.
 

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Obitosaid nagato was invincible, zetsu said nagato was unbeatable even while weakened, konan said he cant lose and is unbeatable, toad sages said the same

Konan, obito, and zetsu all grew up with nagato and zetsu and obito knew how powerful madara and hashirama were but still said nagato was the best

my point of all that is obito said sasuke could one day get to nagato level which means alot
 

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A while back, I posted a new version of my theory to unlock Rinnegan. I thought that it was much more probable than my original theory and at this point I simply want to add to that new idea in regards to Sasuke. Here is a link to that latest theory, please read it if your interested:



To explain the theory in short, I believe that Rinnegan is unlocked after a person with Senju DNA and EMS experiences a moment of sheer despair. To be more specific, I think its unlocked after a moment of weakness, possibly a moment where someone losses their normal self and gives in to abnormal emotions. Perhaps a moment where a prideful person gives up on their ambitions or their selfish tendencies. Frankly, there are almost countless examples of ways to feel something similar, the point is that it must be a change in one's mind, a loss of one's own self in that moment, a time where you give up on what you hold closest to you. Again, there are a lot of emotions that can relate to this so there are really limitless way to feel this, similar to how one can unlock MS in multiple ways.

To explain Madara's case, I felt that Madara stayed stoic, prideful and downright oblivious until the very end of his life. I feel that he could have potentially unlocked Rinnegan much earlier in his life, but I feel that on the verge of death, he finally let go of his selfish ways. I feel that in a moment of pure weakness and despair, Madara gave up on his evil intentions and relinquished his pride. I believe that combination of emotions unlocked his Rinnegan, after-which, he regained his composer and continued with his plans.

This is how I believe Sasuke will awaken Rinnegan, and quite soon mind you. We saw in this last chapter that Sasuke holds resentment toward Naruto and is even jealous of him. Sasuke has shown this level of jealousy before, and was one of the key motivators in regard to his decision to seek out Orochimaru. Therefore, to add to this theory, I am proposing that at a certain point soon, Sasuke will give up on his pride and jealousy, even for the briefest moment, and unlock the Rinnegan as a result. He will possibly give in to sheer despair, by feeling no way of competing with Naruto, relinquishing his pride and sense of superiority even for a moment, giving him what he needs to unlock Rinnegan. As for the Senju DNA part, some people might argue that Sasuke already has Senju DNA, be it from Zetsu clones or whatever, but this theory obviously focuses on the emotional requirement rather than the actual Senju DNA requirement.

Thoughts, comments, concerns, suggestions?
I believe you're on the right track about this theory, but there is something that I don't like about it...



...don't you think that Sasuke should stop depending on sugar daddies in order to get more powerups? ._.#
 

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Zetsu is a fodder to senju DNA, you'll need 1 million zetsu's to have a normal structure of senju DNA.

Point being, six clones ain't enough
 

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I would love to conform to this Rinnengan theory, but there are sooooooo little manga facts concerning the activation, because Madara is the only person to shown to have acquired Rinnengan. Except for acquisition of Senju DNA there are no clues as to what else is required at achieve Rinnengan. Kishi can literally write anything as a prerequisite and no one could argue otherwise.
 

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Although I am not overly fond of the idea of Sasuke attaining the Rinnegan in particular, I have to say that things seem to be heading that way for him; and this has become more apparent to me after reading your theory. It certainly sounds plausible when you think about Madara's backstory.
I too was not always a fan of Sasuke getting Rinnegan, but as you said, it seems more and more likely with every coming chapter that he needs it to compete with Naruto.

I would love to conform to this Rinnengan theory, but there are sooooooo little manga facts concerning the activation, because Madara is the only person to shown to have acquired Rinnengan. Except for acquisition of Senju DNA there are no clues as to what else is required at achieve Rinnengan. Kishi can literally write anything as a prerequisite and no one could argue otherwise.
That's the exact reason I was thinking about this and made this theory, because there is nothing written about it in the manga. We know that something beyond Senju DNA is required and that Madara, for some reason, did not attain it until close to his death.

Considering the evolution of the sharingan is rooted deeply in emotional turmoil and sacrifice, I felt this was a logical progression to the cycle.
 

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After the last chapter I wanted to re-affirm my position a bit :).

Madara directly stated this chapter that after reading the entirety of the Uchiha Tablet (with his EMS at least) he gave into sheer despair and that is what directed him to his current plan. Obviously, this is one of the primary emotions I referenced in my theory which would obviously not be the case considering if sheer despair was required, he would have unlocked it atm.

To clarify, I thought a variety of emotions can actually trigger the Rinngan, most notably when I said a 'change in one's mind' or 'a change in one's selfish tendencies'. So I am re-proposing :) that it was most likely O_O a moment of humbleness that might have awakened Madara's Rinnegan. Perhaps at the end of his life, when he had essentially given up on his plan, he gave in and admitted his defeat. Perhaps he even admitted to himself that Hashirama was better. However it went down, perhaps humbling himself was a key factor in awakening the Rinnegan, in addition to a possible combination of other emotions.

Of course, if this was related to Sasuke, the premise would be the same as I proposed. Sasuke would finally admit to himself that Naruto is indeed better than him, in effect, humbling himself in that moment. Boom Rinnegan. Again, I am completely ignoring the whole Senju DNA side of the requirement so please don't harp on that when you flame my theory :Omg:.

Further thoughts?
 

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After the last chapter I wanted to re-affirm my position a bit :).

Madara directly stated this chapter that after reading the entirety of the Uchiha Tablet (with his EMS at least) he gave into sheer despair and that is what directed him to his current plan. Obviously, this is one of the primary emotions I referenced in my theory which would obviously not be the case considering if sheer despair was required, he would have unlocked it atm.

To clarify, I thought a variety of emotions can actually trigger the Rinngan, most notably when I said a 'change in one's mind' or 'a change in one's selfish tendencies'. So I am re-proposing :) that it was most likely O_O a moment of humbleness that might have awakened Madara's Rinnegan. Perhaps at the end of his life, when he had essentially given up on his plan, he gave in and admitted his defeat. Perhaps he even admitted to himself that Hashirama was better. However it went down, perhaps humbling himself was a key factor in awakening the Rinnegan, in addition to a possible combination of other emotions.

Of course, if this was related to Sasuke, the premise would be the same as I proposed. Sasuke would finally admit to himself that Naruto is indeed better than him, in effect, humbling himself in that moment. Boom Rinnegan. Again, I am completely ignoring the whole Senju DNA side of the requirement so please don't harp on that when you flame my theory :Omg:.

Further thoughts?
I can't offer a rebuttal to your new point of view, because I can't see any contradiction at this point.
 

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Great theory, the Rinnegan is the most possible power-up for Sasuke by date, but you should check out my thread as well, it's also about Sasuke's next power-up: :)
 

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Dont get me wrong sasuke will probably get a power up most likely he brothers Susanoo gear/Susanoo Updgrade

- Sasuke will probably use kirin in the next chapter or so (gut feeling)

if Sasuke was to absorb senju Dna He Wont Awaken the Rinnegan straight away

it would take a while to set in like it did with madara.

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on Naruto's Case it was foreshadowed 10 or so chapters ago when he was completely worn out it showed the TB.. (Hes Worn out completely atm)(No offence Guys But he is the main Character.)
 

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Dont get me wrong sasuke will probably get a power up most likely he brothers Susanoo gear/Susanoo Updgrade

- Sasuke will probably use kirin in the next chapter or so (gut feeling)

if Sasuke was to absorb senju Dna He Wont Awaken the Rinnegan straight away

it would take a while to set in like it did with madara.

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on Naruto's Case it was foreshadowed 10 or so chapters ago when he was completely worn out it showed the TB.. (Hes Worn out completely atm)(No offence Guys But he is the main Character.)
I honestly don't think it needed significant time to 'set in' in madara's case. I simply think Madara was too stubborn when he was younger and never gave up on his selfish and prideful ways until he was about to die. In reality, I think its possible to awaken Rinnegan soon after awakening EMS as long as you meet the physical and emotional requirements. For all those people who think it takes time for the Senju DNA to conform with the body and that is the reason why Madara awakened it so late, obviously you need to reconsider the possible time-frame we are dealing with when it comes to Sasuke getting the Rinnegan. Obviously he needs a power-up and Rinnegan is the most logical stepping stone and its not like we can wait for Sasuke to become an old man before Naruto vs. Sasuke happens.
 

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I honestly don't think it needed significant time to 'set in' in madara's case. I simply think Madara was too stubborn when he was younger and never gave up on his selfish and prideful ways until he was about to die. In reality, I think its possible to awaken Rinnegan soon after awakening EMS as long as you meet the physical and emotional requirements. For all those people who think it takes time for the Senju DNA to conform with the body and that is the reason why Madara awakened it so late, obviously you need to reconsider the possible time-frame we are dealing with when it comes to Sasuke getting the Rinnegan. Obviously he needs a power-up and Rinnegan is the most logical stepping stone and its not like we can wait for Sasuke to become an old man before Naruto vs. Sasuke happens.
And this is why I hate fanboys you completely just threw all manga facts away.
 
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