"Retarded" Naruto

[Revan]

basically, i agree with you and naruto's increased healing rate helps him to stay able to fight. what naruto does is just consequent. however, there wont be always an enemy like these two or like nagato, who havent any intention to kill him and arent able to attack sasuke. if he stops fighting back, he will be caught and dead.

 

[Ryuusaki]

basically, i agree with you and naruto's increased healing rate helps him to stay able to fight. what naruto does is just consequent. however, there wont be always an enemy like these two or like nagato, who havent any intention to kill him and arent able to attack sasuke. if he stops fighting back, he will be caught and dead.

If two murderous shinobi came out to interrogate him for information and he still offered himself as a punching bag I might have agreed with you, but I think he's well aware of their intent.

As the main character he's not as stupid as his foolish demeanor.

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

answer this question dude,

how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...

Why would I do that?

 

[Ryuusaki]

Why would I do that?

Please try to see the threads entirety. It's rhetorical and points towards peoples own pride. You would end up despising yourself for hitting a person who isn't fighting back when he in the end doesn't have anything to do with the situation.

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Please try to see the threads entirety. It's rhetorical and points towards peoples own pride. You would end up despising yourself for hitting a person who isn't fighting back when he in the end doesn't have anything to do with the situation.

Of course I would.
Cloud nin were inadequate at that moment though.

 

[Ryuusaki]

Of course I would.
Cloud nin were inadequate at that moment though.

At this moment... probably. I bet they loosen up eventually, though. They don't seem like bad people even though they might be a bit harsh. They do after all have reason to be pissed and hungry for revenge considering someone kidnapped and possibly also killed their master.

 

[uzumaknaruto]

Many people say that is still naive and is a retarded for offering himself as a puching bag and to denie to give some information about sasuke to the Kumo nins but there are many reasons for naruto behaving like that... Karui tries to interrogate him but Naruto goes through a set of flash backs and he refuses to give them so kind of information... The flashbacks are the reasons for naruto behaving like that:
Sasuke - his friend/"brother";
Sakura - promise lifetime, will do all in his power to make her happy, even if it is at the expense of his own happiness;
His Friends - their efforts to retrieve Sasuke from Orochimaru's hands;
Minato - Naruto is going to find a better answer to the ninja world;
and Pein - revenge/hatred which leads to more revenge/hatred to the world....
Naruto has become less naive after he talked with nagato, so is normal to see naruto behaving like that, even it means naruto behave stupidly for many people, after his conversation

 

[Ryuusaki]

Many people say that is still naive and is a retarded for offering himself as a puching bag and to denie to give some information about sasuke to the Kumo nins but there are many reasons for naruto behaving like that... Karui tries to interrogate him but Naruto goes through a set of flash backs and he refuses to give them so kind of information... The flashbacks are the reasons for naruto behaving like that:
Sasuke - his friend/"brother";
Sakura - promise lifetime, will do all in his power to make her happy, even if it is at the expense of his own happiness;
His Friends - their efforts to retrieve Sasuke from Orochimaru's hands;
Minato - Naruto is going to find a better answer to the ninja world;
and Pein - revenge/hatred which leads to more revenge/hatred to the world....
Naruto has become less naive after he talked with nagato, so is normal to see naruto behaving like that, even it means naruto behave stupidly for many people, after his conversation

Thank you for summarising what I've been saying on and on in this thread... >_>

 

[uzumaknaruto]

Thank you for summarising what I've been saying on and on in this thread... >_>

really???!!! you welcome...
if you said that earlier many people should understand what you mean

 

[NineTailedSage]

Sasuke never killed or captured their real master, so it will show narutos wisdom once more details are relesed sorounding hachibis disaperance/ capture to the cloud nins. Wouldn't it suck if they killed the wrong guy, and found out that their master is alive and well.

 

[Omoilol]

wellllll ... atleast we know naruto can take a few punches like a hombre with cojones!

 

[TheCopyNinja]

I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.

I agree with you that is what I have been thinking, good to see you take a different approach on the subject

 

[jgusw3]

I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.

In the beginning, Naruto was naive and did a lot of stupid things. He was a kid and he did what he did because he loved his friend. It's not until now that Naruto is making any sense. He went through a lot in Shippuuden. He almost lost Gaara, Sasuke attacks him, Jiraiya dies, he reads Jiraiya's book, Pain destroys the village...., the dude's been through a lot. He gives himself up to the Cloud ninjas for the sake of his friend and he understands what Sasuke means to him. In the beginning, Naruto was stupid and naive and we see after all he's been through, he's grown.

Well..., that's my take on the whole thing.

 

[Joshua]

let me say something i agree with ryuusaki he has many points and facts those who say how naruto is so and so u dont understand the point and meaning behind what was done evarything was answered at the start of this thread look it up and get your facts right