"Retarded" Naruto

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I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.
 

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I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.
I totally see that but its stupid to let himself be used as a punching bag especially after defeating Pain, an Akutski top dog. He shouldnt let anyone put their hands on him, but I do understand the whole point about keeping the chain of hatred going if they go and kill Sauske.
 

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Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/

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I know what kind of stupid goal does Naruto aim for, I got kind of used to that, Hell, I'm even used to Naruto always caring for Sasuke (Sasuke would never betray me (that;s GOLD) ), but never, never will I be able to udnerstand the last intention of his. This is a whole new level of retardness... unable to be comprehended (spelling) by me.
 
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Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/
The chain of hatred will continue because once again ninja will kill other ninja because of Sauske kidnapping the 8 tails. If they would succeed in killing Sauske that would lead to other ninja wanting revenge, like Sakura and Naruto and maybe Suaske's current team "Hawk".
 

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Lets hear something objective then... What else should he do? They need at least something to give them closure on this matter, be it punching Naruto or poking ton-ton with a stick.

If your mom was killed, would you refrain from holding the perpetrator in contempt because his friends might get pissed and cause world war 3?
 

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That chain of hatred speal wasn't very accurate. He said he didn't want them to kill Sasuke becuase people in Konoha would want to kill them. But o.nly one person would try...and that's Sakura lol. Everyone else would understand becuase well...he has it comming.
 

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Lets hear something objective then... What else should he do? They need at least something to give them closure on this matter, be it punching Naruto or poking ton-ton with a stick.

If your mom was killed, would you refrain from holding the perpetrator in contempt because his friends might get pissed and cause world war 3?
1 - At least not be a punching bag

2 - Don't you compare mom with a bloody traitor.
 

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Come on man, you're obviously not making any sense other than that you disapprove of Narutos ways lol.
Correct, and you're not making any sense other than that you approve of his ways :rolleyes:

Really, I stated my opinion concerning this particular matter, I explained why exactly is Naruto retarded. And correct, I don't like his ways of thinking and his idea of peace :|

This whole manga is about ninjas, now what is Narutos goal ? Correct. To destroy the ninja world and bring peace to Naruto Universe. Very wise. Unfortunately, not for me. He is trying to destroy something which makes this manga interesting. He's the main antagonist, if you could interpret it like that
 

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Dude i've been thinking about it too. But hell, noone would allow himself to be a punching bad, that's just plain stupid. He could just *state his point* and punch them back and then explain his point once more. But why allow them to hit him?


And what chain of hatred is he referring to? really... Sasuke is a missing nin and should be treatened like one, and there is no difference WHO will kill Sasuke - Lightning ninja or KOnoha anbu. The only difference between them, tbh, is that the first ones have a decent reason to kill Sasuke.

And it's pretty kind of logical to go look for Sasuke first because he was the one who captured their sensei, isn't he? So he should know where is KIrabi located. I don't see how are they jsut gonne look for Kirabi without facing Sasuke ;/

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I know what kind of stupid goal does Naruto aim for, I got kind of used to that, Hell, I'm even used to Naruto always caring for Sasuke (Sasuke would never betray me (that;s GOLD) ), but never, never will I be able to udnerstand the last intention of his. This is a whole new level of retardness... unable to be comprehended (spelling) by me.

answer this question dude,

how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...
 

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I think Karui will stop hitting Naruto and be moved to tears.

There we go, problem solved. Naruto will say something nice like: "We will find your master" or "I'm sure your Master is alright" just to comfort her after his beating.
 

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Correct, and you're not making any sense other than that you approve of his ways :rolleyes:

Really, I stated my opinion concerning this particular matter, I explained why exactly is Naruto retarded. And correct, I don't like his ways of thinking and his idea of peace :|

This whole manga is about ninjas, now what is Narutos goal ? Correct. To destroy the ninja world and bring peace to Naruto Universe. Very wise. Unfortunately, not for me. He is trying to destroy something which makes this manga interesting. He's the main antagonist, if you could interpret it like that
I am competely agree with you about Naruto's retarded. should i say Kishi retarded as well? the peace to the ninja world is impossible, helloOOOO kishi??? are you dreaming or what? Everyone considers Naruto is a hero and now he allows a weakling punch him like that? Kishi does not make sense at all about this peace matter. it is getting pathetic to see the peace-talk again when it already had it with Pain. Kishi should make Naruto as a mature and grown man now... i prefer those cloud ninjas kill off naruto (just go ahead and die naruto, and you will bring peace to the world, since you want people beat you up) , stop that stupid peacetalk and lets have some actions...
 

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I think Karui will stop hitting Naruto and be moved to tears.

There we go, problem solved. Naruto will say something nice like: "We will find your master" or "I'm sure your Master is alright" just to comfort her after his beating.
I doubt it's going to happen as you predicted, but that would be lame if it happens. It's nothing new about that theory; i am pretty sure Kishi will do it; just like he diid to Pain. come give me a break
 

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I am competely agree with you about Naruto's retarded. should i say Kishi retarded as well? the peace to the ninja world is impossible, helloOOOO kishi??? are you dreaming or what? Everyone considers Naruto is a hero and now he allows a weakling punch him like that? Kishi does not make sense at all about this peace matter. it is getting pathetic to see the peace-talk again when it already had it with Pain. Kishi should make Naruto as a mature and grown man now... i prefer those cloud ninjas kill off naruto (just go ahead and die naruto, and you will bring peace to the world, since you want people beat you up) , stop that stupid peacetalk and lets have some actions...
Too bad this whole series currently revolve around peace.
 

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I read all this stupid comments about how Naruto is naive and retarded because he's willing to go so far for Sasuke when Sasuke doesn't give a shit about him.

Try to examine the situation with the cloud-nins in the latest chapter a bit more thoroughly and you'll notice that he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

He refuses to sell out Sasuke for very known reasons, but leave that aside and interpret what's really going on; He tells them that if he gives them information on Sasuke and they succeed at eliminating him, satisfying their hunger for revenge, there will be other people wanting to avenge Sasuke and thus just feed our very renown "chain of hatred". He wants them to let go of the revenge and instead do something constructive like looking for Kirabi (this would have been a whole lot more complex if Kirabi was actually dead).

He can't tell them to just let it slip and pretend it never happened, human nature doesn't work that way, thus why he offers himself as a punching bag.. very narutolike indeed, but what can he do? Honestly, the people he looked up to, sensei, sempai, father you name it has left it in his hands to bestow peace upon the ninja world.. and he has to start somewhere.

Just wait and see how it plays out before you draw these stupid conclusions.

i understand your point entirely
but the hard part for people to understand is th fact that he has voluterily become a punching bag which is something only mothers do for thier kids and husbands for their wives

since as far as we know sasuke is neither to naruto its odd to see him go so far for a freind that has severed his ties with him
 

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i understand your point entirely
but the hard part for people to understand is th fact that he has voluterily become a punching bag which is something only mothers do for thier kids and husbands for their wives

since as far as we know sasuke is neither to naruto its odd to see him go so far for a freind that has severed his ties with him
Sasuke is to Naruto one of his first bonds and it's likely he regards him as a brother. And from having followed the series this far you should all know that he is and always will be willing to go this far for Sasuke.

He also knows those cloud-nins ought to have at least an ounce of dignity and will stop hitting him out of shame at some point.

answer this question dude,

how would you feel if you were hitting an innocent person over something a friend of theirs did?...And they refuse to hit you back...
Exactly, another thing that's common to human nature. >_>
 

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Sasuke is to Naruto one of his first bonds and it's likely he regards him as a brother. And from having followed the series this far you should all know that he is and always will be willing to go this far for Sasuke.

He also knows those cloud-nins ought to have at least an ounce of dignity and will stop hitting him out of shame at some point.



Exactly, another thing that's common to human nature. >_>
i agree with you i was just giving a few examples to illustrate why people are calling him retarted

naruto doesn surprise me anymore i expect the most outlandish almost idiotic stuff thats what makes him him

i used to hate him but i admire his dedication to freindships
 
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