Response to a thread "Hinata is a bad character"...

Manigold · Dec 17, 2014

Narutrol said:
Saint saiyan is awesome. I would say

Saint saiyan >>>>> naruto

For me is Yu Yu Hakusho > Naruto > Saint Saiya

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 17, 2014

Manigold said:
For me is Yu Yu Hakusho > Naruto > Saint Saiya

Agreed. Naruto should have been copied more by Yusuke than Goku.

Naruto X Hunter · Dec 17, 2014

Biased thread.Sakura just liked Sasuke because of his looks? So Naruto and Kakashi could get to know Sasuke and become his comrade,teamate,and friend but Sakura couldn't? She only liked him for his looks?

Sakura only talked about Sasuke in part 1?

Sakura's shown alot of Interest in Naruto in part one.Here's Sakura thinking about how he's awesome then cheering for him in the Chunin Prelims.

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Hinata

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Lee Vs Gaara

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Going to the hospital to check on Lee/hanging out with Ino.

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After Naruto beat Neji.

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And ofcourse there's more.Sakura's been shown to interact with many character,with Sasuke around or not.With the topic being Sasuke or not.Hinata practically exist for him.We never see her talking to any other characters or thinking about anyone other than Naruto.

Think about it.Have you ever seen Hinata talk to Sakura,Ino,Tenten,Gai,Kakashi,Shikamaru or even think about them? It's always Naruto. The only time i can remember her talking to Kakashi was after they went up against Tobi,and Kakashi asked her if she saw him with his Byakugan or something,and a few minutes later when he asked her to look ahead,and she spotted Amaterasu burning.

Other than that she thought about/spoke two Kiba,and Shino,a few times,who are her teamates.

Sakura is a Medic Ninja.Medic Ninjas jobs are to be the support and heal people - to save lives,not to jump in danger to the front lives,risk being killed,and with them gone,that brings up the chances of more people being killed or not being healed from their wounds quickly.

Sakura was busy healing Shinobi and civilians in the when Pain was attacking.I haven't read in awhile so i can't get the pages easily as i could the others but i do remember exactly where she HEALED Hinata,thus saving her life.

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Koshej · Dec 17, 2014

Naruto X Hunter said:
Sakura was busy healing Shinobi and civilians in the when Pain was attacking.I haven't read in awhile so i can't get the pages easily as i could the others but i do remember exactly where she HEALED Hinata,thus saving her life.

Rinne Tensei says hi.
The rest has been discussed countless times already.

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 17, 2014

Koshej said:
Rinne Tensei says hi.
The rest has been discussed countless times already.

Thread soloed says hi.

Thread soloed.

Naruto X Hunter · Dec 17, 2014

Gripen said:
She is a well written character and she has always walk her ninja path right.

You mean Naruto's Ninja Path which she copied.

shsh said:
She is not as worse as people say it to be. Story has concentrated on her character like she actually has sad story like main characters ,being fodder and disgrace for her clan and getting inspired by Naruto and struggling to become powerful. If story had her doing some more relevant stuff instead of Sakura suddenly do things somewhere in the middle,they could have replaced with Hinata. She had KG and clan,but in the end she some how becomes Nardos wife and they made a movie to connect the dots..

She was,"suddenly able to things somewhere in the middle" after 2 and a half years of training,even before than she was helped out often.

Koshej said:
Anna Kyoyama ("Sakura") is definitely less likable than Tamao Tamamura ("Hinata"), when it comes to their stand-alone personalities - yet I fully support YohAnna (btw, canon with a kid) over YohTamao (never was developed anywhere beyond her having a crush on him).
Hinata is likable mostly for how she interacts with Naruto, not so much a stand-alone character.
I mean, she is kinda nice and all, but so is Tamao - and yet I never cared about Tamao at all, while Hinata became my insta-fav during Confession, and STILL is.
Character interaction is what makes ANTI-Hinatas look like morons...

Anna is amazing.

SailorMoonNaruto said:
Oh my gosh will you people shut up already?! It's already done and over with! There's nothing to fight about because they were BOTH just supporters of the actual characters! There's a Hinata side and a Sakura side but NO ONE is ever going to convince the other that one is better than the other because nobody on one side gives a rat's hiney about what the other side has to say! Shut the flip up already! And all the female characters in this story were codependent and submissive. And that's a terrible way to portray a female character. The only one who had balls was Kaguya and she STILL lost.

Sakura exist on her own,she doesn't need a male to be relevant.

Dannie said:
Konan is better than all females so idgaf

Lol,you're banned.

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 17, 2014

Naruto X Hunter said:
Sakura exist on her own,she doesn't need a male to be relevant.

Your joking?

Naruto X Hunter · Dec 17, 2014

Koshej said:
Rinne Tensei says hi.
The rest has been discussed countless times already.

How does that take away from Sakura healing people? And besides,Rinne Tensei revived the DEAD people,i'm pretty sure the people Sakura was healing stayed alive because....well....she was HEALING them.

And even if they did die,the fact that she was healing them,attempting to save their lives was important.

Also everything else that i said hasn't been discussed alot.I have never seen anyone mention in response to someone else saying Sakura is all about Sasuke,pages of how she visited Lee in the hospital,brought him flowers,hanged out with Ino,etc.

Shaz said:
Your joking?

What main male was around Sakura during the 2 and a half years between part 1 and part 2 where she developed the most?

What male was around the 10+ chapters when she was fighting Sasori? Oh,only Sasori,who was an enemy.

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 17, 2014

Naruto X Hunter said:
What main male was around Sakura during the 2 and a half years between part 1 and part 2 where she developed the most?

What male was around the 10+ chapters when she was fighting Sasori? Oh,only Sasori,who was an enemy.

Naw you don't get it. You said that she does not need male characters to be relevant. She exists on her own.

Here this is your statement.

Naruto X Hunter said:
Sakura exist on her own,she doesn't need a male to be relevant.

This had nothing to do with her fight against Sasori or her development in those one to two years. But if you wanna play that game than did we see her development on screen to come to that conclusion?

Also how does her fighting Sasori defend your statement that you stated?

Now on to your statement. No that is not true. Sakura revolves around two male characters. Naruto and Sasuke. And yes she does need them to stay relevant. They are basically her whole character. Her motivation to get stronger or surpass them. Sakura never got her own arc. She is simply a one dimensional character as Hinata.

KGB Kakuzu · Dec 17, 2014

You simply should have posted in the thread. Making a separate reply is making the present situation worse. I will say I agree with the things you've said, but not in the manner in which you've said them.

You should avoid drawing a comparison to Sakura. It serves no purpose. Yes it is a comparison; however, it provokes the wrong response. The overall point gets perverted into yet another stereotypical Hinata vs Sakura thread.

Here's a nicer way to argue in defense of a character.

Firstly, Hinata's lack of confidence was due to her father, who treated her like a looser, however thanks to Naruto she became even more confident to the point she could take courageous action. For example, Naruto vs Pain, look at what Hinata did. When Naruto was defeated and in need of aid, she put her life on the line knowing she couldn't win. Some might argue that it was a pointless act, or quote her on her selfishness labeling it stupid. However, had no one acted, Naruto is simply captured... game over. Instead, her actions ultimately lead to Naruto being saved even if it isn't Hinata as the power behind his release (the power being Kurama).

Another example is when Neji saved Naruto, if Neji would not be on the way of those wood spears, Hinata would die - saving Naruto, 'cause she was also protecting him (she was determined to die for Naruto's sake. She was willing to die to save him, and keep the last hope the Shinobi world had from being lost.

People keep saying that Hinata only wishes for Naruto's attention, but this is not true. We know she wanted to get stronger herself. We have seen her consider the care of others: Neji, her team, and Ko for examples. While Naruto is someone she loves, these feelings stem from his inspiration and what that has done for her. To Hinata, Naruto was source of inspiration and motivation. He was able to withstand all hatred he was exposed to when he was kid, and continue to grow stronger and become more and more respected.

Hinata, having been literally abandoned by her father, wanted to grow stronger. She felt alone similarly to how Naruto was. Seeing someone in a situation she could empathize with push on and improve gave her the confidence to keep working hard herself.

The key to this, is that it is all focused on Hinata. No comparisons to other characters. Thus, no real room for people to feel their characters are being insulted.

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 17, 2014

KGB Kakuzu said:
You simply should have posted in the thread. Making a separate reply is making the present situation worse. I will say I agree with the things you've said, but not in the manner in which you've said them.

You should avoid drawing a comparison to Sakura. It serves no purpose. Yes it is a comparison; however, it provokes the wrong response. The overall point gets perverted into yet another stereotypical Hinata vs Sakura thread.

Here's a nicer way to argue in defense of a character.

The key to this, is that it is all focused on Hinata. No comparisons to other characters. Thus, no real room for people to feel their characters are being insulted.

Pretty mature statement. As expected by you.

KGB Kakuzu · Dec 17, 2014

Shaz said:
Pretty mature statement. As expected by you.

I don't duck around.

Just have to call it how it should be. Place your point across in a fair and respectful manner. It isn't hard.

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Neji Hyūga2 · Dec 18, 2014

Agree with you on this post.

Literally what you've said is what I always say.

Sakura is just a character who doesn't do anything aside from rely on others and just keeps lusting over a guy that keeps beating here Lol

Naruto X Hunter · Dec 18, 2014

Shaz said:
Naw you don't get it. You said that she does not need male characters to be relevant. She exists on her own.

Here this is your statement.

This had nothing to do with her fight against Sasori or her development in those one to two years. But if you wanna play that game than did we see her development on screen to come to that conclusion?

Also how does her fighting Sasori defend your statement that you stated?

Now on to your statement. No that is not true. Sakura revolves around two male characters. Naruto and Sasuke. And yes she does need them to stay relevant. They are basically her whole character. Her motivation to get stronger or surpass them. Sakura never got her own arc. She is simply a one dimensional character as Hinata.

You are denying facts.I gave you long moments where she developed on her own without them being around.Yes,a main reason why she wanted to become stronger was for them,but they weren't the only reason.

And yes,she is relevant without them.The whole battle against Sasori,with her defeating an Akatsuki member,earning his respect,and gaining info out of him shows that she's been relevant without Naruto or Sasuke being around.She didn't need an arc based on her to show,and incase you didn't notice.

Sakura was one of the main part of the rescue Gaara arc,she was more relevant than out Main character.And from HER actions during HER battle,she gained Info for Konoha which lead to the next arc.SAKURA,led to the story developing majorly.

NejiHyuuga said:
Agree with you on this post.

Literally what you've said is what I always say.

Sakura is just a character who doesn't do anything aside from rely on others and just keeps lusting over a guy that keeps beating here Lol

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V h o · Dec 18, 2014

Hinata has a pretty straight forward character, she was weak and she wants to overcome that. Naruto happens to be what inspires her to do that though, and her husband....

Natsu Shazneel · Dec 18, 2014

Naruto X Hunter said:
You are denying facts.I gave you long moments where she developed on her own without them being around.Yes,a main reason why she wanted to become stronger was for them,but they weren't the only reason.

And yes,she is relevant without them.The whole battle against Sasori,with her defeating an Akatsuki member,earning his respect,and gaining info out of him shows that she's been relevant without Naruto or Sasuke being around.She didn't need an arc based on her to show,and incase you didn't notice.

Sakura was one of the main part of the rescue Gaara arc,she was more relevant than out Main character.And from HER actions during HER battle,she gained Info for Konoha which lead to the next arc.SAKURA,led to the story developing majorly.

I am not denying any facts. I am just pointing out flaws in your statement. Her being good in one fight or showing her feats in her medicial field does not mean she is relevant without her male counterparts. All you are doing is making something so small bigger than it already is.

She became that strong because she wanted to show her male counterparts that she can fight on there level. So what ever she does after does not change the fact that she is relevant because of her male counterparts.

Kakooli · Dec 18, 2014

Hinata got defeated by a rock, her younger sister and had to be saved from being killed by a tree branch. Sakura helped seal Kaguya, was the first of her generation to defeat an akatsuki member and she is a superb medical ninja who saved many in Konoha during the Pain arc while Hinata got fodderized and many in the shinobi alliance while Hinata was napping in infinite Tsukiyomi/getting in the way because she was so weak.

Hinata's lack of strength contributed to her cousin's death. She has blood on her hands.

Dockinabix · Dec 18, 2014

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Conspirator. · Dec 18, 2014

Hinata is not a well written character. Although she's not as big a disappointment as Sakura, as she's a side character.

Ansatsuken · Dec 18, 2014

KGB Kakuzu said:
You simply should have posted in the thread. Making a separate reply is making the present situation worse. I will say I agree with the things you've said, but not in the manner in which you've said them.

You should avoid drawing a comparison to Sakura. It serves no purpose. Yes it is a comparison; however, it provokes the wrong response. The overall point gets perverted into yet another stereotypical Hinata vs Sakura thread.

Here's a nicer way to argue in defense of a character.

The key to this, is that it is all focused on Hinata. No comparisons to other characters. Thus, no real room for people to feel their characters are being insulted.

@Bold, This also what my post saying.

If Hinata truth messenger want to talking about Hinata worthy moments and why she is not a bad characters, don't brought Sakura comparison or insulting statement/quote in the thread.

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