[Discussion] Religion
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HashiraMadara
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Christians are less judgemental than ignorant Atheists: Look at Mark 2:13-17
Jesus eats with tax collectors and sinners etc..
"13 He went out again beside the sea, and dall the crowd was coming to him, and he was teaching them. 14 eAnd as he passed by, he saw fLevi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the tax booth, and he said to him, “Follow me.” And he rose and followed him.
15 And as he reclined at table in his house, many gtax collectors and sinners were reclining with Jesus and his disciples, for there were many who followed him. 16 And hthe scribes of1 the Pharisees, when they saw that he was eating with sinners and tax collectors, said to his disciples, g“Why does he eat2 with tax collectors and sinners?” 17 And when Jesus heard it, he said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. iI came not to call the righteous, jbut sinners.” "
Even Daniel was a scholar... Even though he was a believer. He never judged other scholars instead he preached!
Don't get an attitude towards religion because of religious people. Argue with its books!
I am no Atheist nor Christian...
The fact that you quoted my post directed at a troll, and claim atheists to be ignorant proves you don't know what you're talking about, and I don't know why you're trying to bring up scriptures like I actually give a damn about your man made piece of fiction. I'm talking about people specifically. Not your clunk pages full of nonsense.
But I'll play along:
This is one of the most obvious signs in the Christian church. I should know, I used to be a Christian.
They are judgmental or always imposing their views on others. This usually comes when Christians speak out against behaviors and the different lifestyles that your little God considers "sin" and against his will, also considered to be chaos to him.
Proverbs 16:1 proves this further.
"The plans of the heart belong to man,
but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord."
To this day and age, everyone does what they think is right. Everyone decides what's right and what's wrong for themselves.
Judges 21:5 explains this:
"In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes."
The very fact that Christians speak out against the evils of the world and take everything so seriously in the bible are fanatics and are regarded as being judgmental.
How are Atheists considered more judgmental than Christians when Atheists are are the ones who live their lives not bound by what "God" says and trying to pursue evangelism onto those who are not in their faith?
HashiraMadara
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Before I even draw my efforts into answering I'll ask you a few things... Then after that, I'll elaborate the causes of "ignorant" label that I placed amongst many atheist...
Do you believe in something making this world or You believe in the Big Bang/related theories?
Do you believe in the word "moral"
In your world of atheism what is "wrong" and what is "right"... AND <== who defines those words
Why haven't you killed someone yet?
Answer for me these few questions...
before you begin your debate with these two champions, I suggest you lay the battle rules !
the debate is between atheism and christianity, not a debate between atheism and 2, or the 3 major religions because the arguments used are against christianity.
thou can begin !
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HashiraMadara
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Nah, I don't take sides. I play by the opponents game... So since he's an atheist all my arguments are atheism based no religion will be included...
Somewhere in answering those questions I asked he is bound to have a contradiction because the source of 'moral' is Religion :|
HashiraMadara
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cognitive beings are advanced enough to foresee and jump off a ship with a sinking fate, if they're given sufficient clues
yeah but I don't know why they use anti-church arguments against the three major religions. that's unfair, and also they use the missbehaving of religious people to condemn religion. what a bunch of irrational beings hahahaha
but go on, I'm a spectator.
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may you find your answers some day man !
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HashiraMadara
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Yeah, I keep telling him on each posts: Why are you pointing fingers on religious people instead of their books :sdo:
If you have something against religion find flaws against its core not people who tell you "I am muslim" yet he doesn't fully follow his word! :sdo:
Even Simon Peter lied 3 times, yet he was Jesus's most beloved disciple :sdo: , <== meaning don't judge religion on misbehaviours of those who follow it. If you think you're good enough... challenge its scripture...
As I was saying Atheism is very paradoxically...
It's universal to be religious and universal to be non religious too... but Atheism brings a paradox
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HashiraMadara
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Figuring one's view leads to why he followed that view in the first place :sdo: meaning changing his view will mean less bashing of religions barring an ignorant mind :|
I don't care for either one nor do I have a favorite.
Sure.
You decide that for yourself, but if their were no restrictions for what's right and what's wrong then murderers and rapists would have free reign. Consciously, you should know whats right and what's wrong, but some people still believe that what they do is right, despite if other people find it wrong.
If we are talking about morals pertaining to social statuses, then of course society decides what is right and what is wrong, but even that can cause a lot of problems.
Because I know it's wrong and because I don't want to waste my life doing something stupid.
HashiraMadara
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Yes it is very Paradoxical in 3 main pointsInteresting
* 1 Atheism is born out of religion...
* 2 The biggest flop of Atheism is Buddhism, because Atheism definition: "absence in belief of a higher being" <== yet the very religion believe in "good" and "bad" :|
* 3 All un contacted people in the world, Sentinels(excluded because they're unknown) practice a form of a higher being relief.
There are lot more
HashiraMadara
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Ladies and gentlemen a big contradiction like I foretold...
He is saying "consciously" you should know, where is the information from the consciousness that tells you "wrong" and "right" coming from?????
"I don't want to kill because it's 'wrong'" Are you living by rules??? coming from where or who? consciousness???
Define consciousness for me
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