[Discussion] Religion
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Not arguing with him specifically at all. In fact, he just layed out the question and disappeared.
My original post was meant for the general audience on how to deal with the arguments presented rather than convince one person.
So the best argument is that he always existed?
I mean, the best argument we have is that he never existed because we literally can't see him, hear him, feel him, and because of the hundreds of religions that have their own unique gods and beliefs. Oh, and because we literally can't answer who God is and how he came about.
There's like 1000 Gods out there, no kidding.
I'm sure our belief is more "sane", no offense.
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My curiosity has risen.....though I see it to be pointless to argue about it since ppl are set in their ways
you can clearly see him through how perfect his creation is. he is as real as you breathing and not knowing how the hell your heart is beating until it stops.
creation is something a human can't understand as I said earlier in my posts because the human only copies what he sees and recreates. the creation is the making of a thing out of nothing. it is a characteristic that only god has, and shares with no one.
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Answer me this, from the perspective of Christianity how can you say other religions such as the big 3 (let's say Islam for example) is not the way
Well the God in the Torah, Bible, and the Quran are not like the other Gods. The gods of the other religions foght and quarrel which is not an attribute of The Almighty. For example, Greek gods have fights with each other like zeus and hades. Ancient Egyptian gods and gods from other religions are the gods of one thing like the god of rain, harvest, sun etc. The God in the three major religions claims He is the God of everything and that He always existed. The other 1000 gods you are talking about don't claim that they always had existed and that they created the universe.
It's the same recycled theory I have been hearing for years now. Either change it to something better or complete it at least.
I get scolded by my family every time I see them because I don't believe in God. But what God am I supposed to believe in? There's hundreds of them and each one teaches something different. Then I hear the crap that every religion worships the same God, and yet they all hate people who don't practice the same religion as them. Why? Ain't it the same God though?
I'm gonna convert to Islam and beat my wife because the religion allows me to.
An overused argument, you cannot be above omnipotence, which is what most Abrahamic religions worship. omnipotence by definition, a power above all, beyond and bigger than infinity, bend will and probability, including the conceptually (time for instance, exist outside of everything) impossible and logically impossible take it in fiction or in real life, you cannot possibly surpass or create something that has literally no limits to begin with.
Edit: My last post for the month, I'm done for now, time to open some ****in supply drops in black ops 3 yeah sue me.
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don't blame a religion you don't know for the behaviour of the ones who follow this religion but don't understand it. as god is perfect and doesn't make mistakes but the human who follows him is full of mistakes and is all but a rational being. this is why their is a judgement day and why even the followers of god are judged.
as our existence on earth is nothing but a test. we were made to make mistakes, by making them we obey gods law, without even knowing.
The fact all religions worship the same God is not true, or Ancient Greeks, Barbarians and Indians would be worshipping the God of Christianity, and it doesn't seem to be. I'm leaving to Muslim fellas the answer about beating your wife but you anyway are changing argument, what can I do if they always repeated it to you?
the god of mohammad is the god of jesus and the god of moses and the god of all the other prophets he sent to all of the people of the earth and all the prophets were sent by one message : to worship god and no one but god and to obey him and to submit to his will (within the limits of the person as god doesn't order someone to make something beyond his limits)
and all the prophets were sent to warn the people that they are living some years on earth for test purpose, and that they are destined to live forever, and not on earth.
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