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It's never gonna happen. Evolution has been proven to be impossible.
We cannot assume that yet, though I am not a fan, I learned to look at things from both sides. They might, they might not, we'll just have to wait and see

Yes. If God is real, then he/she/it definitely isn't all good and morally perfect. Such a being wouldn't create universe which is based on chaos and survival of the fittest mentality.
God didn't create a universe based on those things. That's where free will comes into play
 

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I see what you're trying to accomplish with this thread, but it's wasted effort.

People that bash others beliefs don't give a fck, that's why they argue it. Atheist or Religious, they see a thread and look for posts that they can argue with. Simply to prove they are right and make someone feel stupid.
 
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We cannot assume that yet, though I am not a fan, I learned to look at things from both sides. They might, they might not, we'll just have to wait and see



God didn't create a universe based on those things. That's where free will comes into play
What about death? Did God give a chance not to kill and eat when you are hungry?
 

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I was not insulting religious people. and i never said that those who were religious were dumb, i just said that it is stuiped to beilive in god even tho there aint no proof.
1. You called what they perceive as something of great truth, in a most condescending fashion 'a book'.
2. You are therefore suggesting that they are placing their faith in a mere 'book'; this suggests they're not very intelligent/don't know what they're doing

I understand where you're coming from, though.​
 

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@Bold1: Religion is the cause of war, WW1 and WW2 wad becuase Hitler was against Jews, of course not all the wars are because of religion but stil, the most of the wars are because people are against another religion, here are a few examples: Thirty years war, it was between Protestants and Catholics, Lebanese Civil war, it was between Sunni, Shiite and Christian, there is also Second Sudanese Civil War which was between Islam and Christian.

@Bold2: And how often does that happen? maximum 5 cases a year right? He let's atleast 100 kids die every year, and those who he save, how old are they? 50-60 year? they've lived for a long time while the kids barely get 5 years to live, there is no such thing as ''God'', and if he really does exsist, then i din't give a crap, i don't like him, i hate him to be honest, he keeps killing my siblings, my friends and people still worship him, they even dedicate their pathetic lives to him, they don't even know if he really exsist and they are still willing to kill themshelfs for him, these kind of things make me mad.
1- False. If you really think that WW2 was just because hitle was against jews, then you lack a lot of information regarding history. WW1 barely had anything about religion at all. It was political and diplomatic issues.
You clearly didn't read everything. It's not about religion. Religion is just an opinion many people share. As I said, the problem is the human nature: the inability to live wityh and accept the differences.
Many wars had religion as a pretext, but they were actually about money and territorry, or about political issues. The religious wars in europe, for exemple. I don't remember who anymore, but there was a country that had one religion as their main religion, yet, they entered a war in another country going against their own religion(because it would be better for the leader to have the other religion as the main one in the other country, as he had good relations with the previous leader). This jsut shows that religion isn't the main point.

2- I have no idea. But yet, it happens, but to prove your point, you're just ignoring it. And I gave other 2 explanations about what you mentioned too.
"There is no such thing as a God" is an assumption as well, as it is unsure as I said. Until we know the truth, people shouldn't be stating their opinions as if they were facts and scream "IT'S A FACT". Goes for both sides.
Being religious is not like you said: dedicating their "pathetic"(insulting again) lives to God and willing to kill themselves for him. Those are fanatics, so stop putting all religious people in the same spot. They just believe in a God and wants to follow that idea. People believe in it and follow it in different ways.
If a person follows some of principles, such as: respect and love other people, don't kill or steal. If they follow that, believing in God or not, they might turn into good citizens. So, believin in God isn't a problem.
 

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Man..I've been typing so much today.

Some think that God is an imaginary being that people believe on faith to make them feel good. However, it also takes faith to be an atheist. An atheist must believe that DNA is the result of chance. The DNA molecule is like a very complicated computer program. And any program will have a programmer. Nobody would believe that Windows 7 or Google Chrome is the result of chance, but many believe that the human brain that created Windows 7 and Google Chrome is the result of chance. Below is a picture of Mount Rushmore. Four faces were carved out of solid rock. It was caused by a process of time and chance. Over the course of many years, wind, rain and blowing sand carved the faces in the rock:

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That sounds ridiculous to claim that erosion carved the faces into the rock, right? But, many people believe that the men who are depicted in the rock carving and the people who carved the rock are a result of a process of time and chance. I myself believed it for many years. A living thing is much more complex that a rock. It should sound just as ridiculous to say that life began by a process of time and chance.

Life can't just happen by chance, not could the big bang. It's literally impossible.

Every thing that has a beginning, has to have someone that made it. For example, a Book has a beginning, and the creator is the author. And it has been agreed upon by scientists that the universe had a beginning, it began to exist. So that would mean the universe has a creator, and that is Allah... See, you say it seems perposterous and ridiculous, but that is only because you don't understand Allah. For instance, do you think an ant or butterfly could understand the way humans work, and understand their knowledge? no. similarly, humans have trouble with understand Allah. You believe Allah can't see everything, but that's because your idea of what someone is able to see is limited to human knowledge. moreover, the universe is so vast and complex, and Allah created it, he created all these complex designs and laws we see around us... so why would it seem absurd that he can see everything and know everything, when he MADE everything to begin with? I really don't think it is

We exist, right? We either came from something, or we came from nothing. We know nothing can produce nothing, because there's nothing there. If you've ever seen nothing produce something, let me know, k? We KNOW we can't have come from nothing, therefore we must have come from something. Now this something must either be eternal or temporary...But all temporal things have a beginning, so this something has to be eternal, with no beginning or end. Now, this can either be a living being, or a lifeless process, but all evidence shows that all life comes from other life...therefore, god MUST exist.
Thank you for taking the time to type this and I understand why you think the way you do but I must respectfully disagree. DNA is programmed by molecules and data that was created by the sperm and egg and therefore carried on by multiplication.

I'm not really sure what you meant by the rock carving but what i'm getting from what you said is that that it was by chance that the faces are like this. If this is the case then I believe you are wrong, the faces were carved not by chance but by people in respect to the presidents. If this is not the case then I apologize.

The big bang to the best of my knowledge was created by hot particles that constantly rubbed together and eventually blew up creating the universe as we know it. I'm sure it is more complicated than that but this is just how I understand it.

We are created from sperm and eggs not from allah (this is just what I believe) and its kinda proven that we come from this, rather than being made from a god.

I disagree with you to be honest and I apologize if I have offended you that was not intention but this is personally what I believe.
 

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LOL OMFG, religious thread, lemme post *drops plates everywhere*

This thread went off the tracks.

I mean honestly, convincing is just too far fetched in terms of religious beliefs, obviously you're not gonna be able to convert either sides to your own morals, but at least you can bash people's statements, and they bash yours, keep the cycle going. Very gud ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
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