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I like this kind of attitude, I'm an atheist (or rather agnostic) and I don't have a positive opinion on religion, but you may be one of the few religious people that I actually respect. You see, if a God exists doesn't really concern me at all. If he/she/it is real, then I will just have to accept it and move on (until then, I don't see the need to believe in something without factual evidence, but I'm leaving the possibility open) the issue isn't "if" a God exist, but "which" does.

That's why I don't like religion, because each side is 100% certain that their God is real and of another faith false, that their laws and morals are correct and so on. It's just like watching children beating each other over a candy.

I think there should be just 1 universal religion.
I see your point. Honestly, it doesn't concern me a lot either. I believe in God, but I also agree with evolution and even with the big bang theory. I have a different way to believe in a God, but I don'tcare if people agree with me or not.
It's unsure if God exists or not, and so is the existence of the universe. So, let people choose in which idea they believe.

What bothers me is that the fights that happen because of these. Religious and atheists insulting each other for something that nobody knows for sure. It's pointless. It's about time people learned to live and to respect different opinions. And not only about this topic.
 

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You're one of those people, you act childish on every thread i've seen on this site.
>Asserts somebody else is immature
>First post he makes is insulting religious people.

Wutchu smokin', bruh? Seriously, stop being ignorant. I know some religious persons that make non-religious persons I know look like children with IQs that are equal to the only even prime number :rolleyes:. Isaac Newton was religious, you know, and even one of his discoveries makes him a certified genius, let alone the calculus, optics, gravitation, his laws of motion, and so forth.​
 

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I see your point. Honestly, it doesn't concern me a lot either. I believe in God, but I also agree with evolution and even with the big bang theory. I have a different way to believe in a God, but I don'tcare if people agree with me or not.
It's unsure if God exists or not, and so is the existence of the universe. So, let people choose in which idea they believe.

What bothers me is that the fights that happen because of these. Religious and atheists insulting each other for something that nobody knows for sure. It's pointless. It's about time people learned to live and to respect different opinions. And not only about this topic.
I respectful debate between religious and atheist is possible, I've done so with several people

DO you know what this proof is??
Of course
 

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I see your point. Honestly, it doesn't concern me a lot either. I believe in God, but I also agree with evolution and even with the big bang theory. I have a different way to believe in a God, but I don'tcare if people agree with me or not.
It's unsure if God exists or not, and so is the existence of the universe. So, let people choose in which idea they believe.

What bothers me is that the fights that happen because of these. Religious and atheists insulting each other for something that nobody knows for sure. It's pointless. It's about time people learned to live and to respect different opinions. And not only about this topic.
No one wants to admit the possibility of being wrong and to face the responsibility of their actions in the name of said belief. That's why seemingly everyone is right and yet another person is wrong, it goes in circle, creating a paradox, therefore mathematically we all are wrong, meaning the truth has yet to be revealed to us, because it has to be the one which doesn't conflict with what we know.
 

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Bold is false. Religion is not what causes fights and wars. People and their inability to accept and leave with the differences is what causes the fights. It's the human nature. We humans have a hard time living with different habibits, opinions and characteristics. Whenever we face these differences, we first try to overcome them by putting our characteristics into the opposite group. If this fails, we'll try to eliminate the differences: then, we try to segregate and opress the opposite group. If that fails, we try to kill them.
The thing is that the other group shall do the same, then, it's war.

As I said, if we got by evidences, we won't believe in anything related to the origin of the universe. That's why I said that people can believe in what they want, because all of this is unsure.

People usually say this: "If God exists, then why he let people die". I have to things to say: And what about those so called miracles, when the probability of a person living is almost none, doctors almost giving up, and yet, the person lives? Then it's just luck, right? But when a person dies, it's because God let it, and then he doesn't exist. This is a double standard.
Anoter thing is: because maybe, if there is a God, he is not the type that directly changes the lives of people. Maybe he would just have created everything, and then he decided to see how would that turn out.
Or maybe we're so f*cked up that, if there is a god, even he gave up on us.

I don't agree with "people believe in god because they fear death". I think everybody has their reasons to believe in a god. This might be one of them? Of course, but it's not the only one.
@Bold1: Religion is the cause of war, WW1 and WW2 wad becuase Hitler was against Jews, of course not all the wars are because of religion but stil, the most of the wars are because people are against another religion, here are a few examples: Thirty years war, it was between Protestants and Catholics, Lebanese Civil war, it was between Sunni, Shiite and Christian, there is also Second Sudanese Civil War which was between Islam and Christian.

@Bold2: And how often does that happen? maximum 5 cases a year right? He let's atleast 100 kids die every year, and those who he save, how old are they? 50-60 year? they've lived for a long time while the kids barely get 5 years to live, there is no such thing as ''God'', and if he really does exsist, then i din't give a crap, i don't like him, i hate him to be honest, he keeps killing my siblings, my friends and people still worship him, they even dedicate their pathetic lives to him, they don't even know if he really exsist and they are still willing to kill themshelfs for him, these kind of things make me mad.
 

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Anyone that claims There is Proof/Isn't proof are talking out of their asses based on what they believe.

There isn't proof that it exists, There isn't proof that it doesn't. Simple as that.
I see your point. Honestly, it doesn't concern me a lot either. I believe in God, but I also agree with evolution and even with the big bang theory. I have a different way to believe in a God, but I don'tcare if people agree with me or not.
It's unsure if God exists or not, and so is the existence of the universe. So, let people choose in which idea they believe.

What bothers me is that the fights that happen because of these. Religious and atheists insulting each other for something that nobody knows for sure. It's pointless. It's about time people learned to live and to respect different opinions. And not only about this topic.

These comments deserved to be repped.

Not only hasn't the common ancestor been found, but in no way shape or form do neither the big bang nor evolution disprove God's existence in the world. Faith does not only apply to religious folk as people have faith in evolution that scientist will find a common ancestor to disprove God and prove evolution.

At the end of the day, both basis are using faith
 

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The more I learn about the universe the more I believe that God do exist, although I dont think that God is this good father like most of religions tells us, I think he has a nature of scientist.
 

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>Asserts somebody else is immature
>First post he makes is insulting religious people.

Wutchu smokin', bruh? Seriously, stop being ignorant. I know some religious persons that make non-religious persons I know look like children with IQs that are equal to the only even prime number :rolleyes:. Isaac Newton was religious, you know, and even one of his discoveries makes him a certified genius, let alone the calculus, optics, gravitation, his laws of motion, and so forth.​
I was not insulting religious people. and i never said that those who were religious were dumb, i just said that it is stuiped to beilive in god even tho there aint no proof.
 

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Can you show/explain what this proof is please??
Man..I've been typing so much today.

Some think that God is an imaginary being that people believe on faith to make them feel good. However, it also takes faith to be an atheist. An atheist must believe that DNA is the result of chance. The DNA molecule is like a very complicated computer program. And any program will have a programmer. Nobody would believe that Windows 7 or Google Chrome is the result of chance, but many believe that the human brain that created Windows 7 and Google Chrome is the result of chance. Below is a picture of Mount Rushmore. Four faces were carved out of solid rock. It was caused by a process of time and chance. Over the course of many years, wind, rain and blowing sand carved the faces in the rock:

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That sounds ridiculous to claim that erosion carved the faces into the rock, right? But, many people believe that the men who are depicted in the rock carving and the people who carved the rock are a result of a process of time and chance. I myself believed it for many years. A living thing is much more complex that a rock. It should sound just as ridiculous to say that life began by a process of time and chance.

Life can't just happen by chance, not could the big bang. It's literally impossible.

Every thing that has a beginning, has to have someone that made it. For example, a Book has a beginning, and the creator is the author. And it has been agreed upon by scientists that the universe had a beginning, it began to exist. So that would mean the universe has a creator, and that is Allah... See, you say it seems perposterous and ridiculous, but that is only because you don't understand Allah. For instance, do you think an ant or butterfly could understand the way humans work, and understand their knowledge? no. similarly, humans have trouble with understand Allah. You believe Allah can't see everything, but that's because your idea of what someone is able to see is limited to human knowledge. moreover, the universe is so vast and complex, and Allah created it, he created all these complex designs and laws we see around us... so why would it seem absurd that he can see everything and know everything, when he MADE everything to begin with? I really don't think it is

We exist, right? We either came from something, or we came from nothing. We know nothing can produce nothing, because there's nothing there. If you've ever seen nothing produce something, let me know, k? We KNOW we can't have come from nothing, therefore we must have come from something. Now this something must either be eternal or temporary...But all temporal things have a beginning, so this something has to be eternal, with no beginning or end. Now, this can either be a living being, or a lifeless process, but all evidence shows that all life comes from other life...therefore, god MUST exist.
 

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I was not insulting religious people. and i never said that those who were religious were dumb, i just said that it is stuiped to beilive in god even tho there aint no proof.
How is it stupid when God cannot be disproven?
The Big Bang and Evolution is still a theory that's just excepted as a fact, at the end of the day people still have faith that a common ancestor will be found one day.
 

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The more I learn about the universe the more I believe that God do exist, although I dont think that God is this good father like most of religions tells us, I think he has a nature of scientist.
Yes. If God is real, then he/she/it definitely isn't all good and morally perfect. Such a being wouldn't create universe which is based on chaos and survival of the fittest mentality.
 
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